Help?

Hey girls (and guys)! I need some help. I've been straightening my hair for years and as a result, it hasn't grown in about a year and it's very thin. So I'm on my way to being a curly girl again.

When I use gel/hair spray (I know... alcohol) it gives my hair hold but I have to use too much product. When I do my hair that way, I get curls like my picture over there <--- It's cute and everything, but the slightest wind or moisture makes my hair look like a rats nest.

If I don't put anything in my hair and just let it dry (if I'm not going anywhere or just went swiming) I really like how my hair "curls." It looks really similar to this ---> http://i.shoppinglifestyle.com/galle...HilaryDuff.jpg Just with a little more curl.

The problem is that it's so dry! I've always had very dry hair, even back when I was always, every day, a curly. Every single thing I've tried in my hair doesn't work. It seems like my hair just absorbs whatever it is and then stays the same. I would love to have my hair look how it does when I don't scrunch with gel/hair spray, but how can I control the dry/frizzy look? I've tried John Frida, and it seemed like my hair just ate it and stayed looking the same. I love curls, they're beautiful, but with my face the softer looks just look much better on me. (I have a large nose lol.)

And I really can't do the "wash your hair only twice a week" thing because my scalp is VERY oily. I can't even really skip a single day without oil building up.

Help!

Last edited by ChrystalR88; 07-01-2012 at 02:50 PM.
It's very likely that you have a lot of silicone build-up from the products youre using. That, along with the hairspray is very drying to your hair, and could be causing your scalp to overproduce oil.

Have you considered the curly girl method?
19 y/o lifelong natural {4a-O ; spongy ; porous ; coarse ; dense ; ~MBL stretched}

products {'poo: TJTTT shampoo | RO: TJTTT Condish, YTC Condish | LI/style: TJTTT Condish, KCCC, AOHSR, homemade cocoa butter cream | DC: SMABS Purification Masque, condish + ayurvedic powder(s), AOHSR | PT: condish + NPF | oils: castor oil, grapeseed oil | other treatments: probiotics, tea rinses, AVG rinse/spritz, oil rinse | methods: LOCO, LCOGO}

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Check "Curly Hair Basics" here: Live Curly Live Free - Home . This will enable you to learn your hair type (or you can order a hair analysis from this site, as I did). This will help you to know what products/ingredients your hair is likely to do well with.

How often do you do deep treatments to replenish your moisture? I do deep treatments weekly and use a leave in conditioner morning and evening to be sure I am getting enough moisture in the desert where I live.

Using conditioner twice a day, using rich moisturizing products (if your hair isn't weighed down by them), and deep conditioning can certainly remedy the dryness you are noting. You might also want to look into co-washing, washing with conditioner rather than shampoo. It works well for many here.

You might also require a protein regimen, I certainly do.

Basically finding the right balance of protein and moisture is most important in getting the best hair results.

Once you find out your hair properties, you can compare your hair to the signatures here, and find out what works for others with your hair type.

P.S. Yes, as Rimi mentions silicone buildup can have a lot to do with your present problems, so checking out the CG method is a good idea.
Be Happy!

Type:2b/3ab?
Texture:Medium/fine
Porosity:Normal
Elasticity:Normal

Experimenting with too many products to name here. All this great info keeps my head spinning.

Last edited by raindear; 07-01-2012 at 03:17 PM. Reason: P.S.
I have been doing a lot from the CG method. I don't believe it's product build up, because this was a problem long before I ever started using products in my hair.

I use a leave in conditioner every day and sulfate free products.
Do you seal with an oil? Also, as raindear said, try doing some deep treatments.
19 y/o lifelong natural {4a-O ; spongy ; porous ; coarse ; dense ; ~MBL stretched}

products {'poo: TJTTT shampoo | RO: TJTTT Condish, YTC Condish | LI/style: TJTTT Condish, KCCC, AOHSR, homemade cocoa butter cream | DC: SMABS Purification Masque, condish + ayurvedic powder(s), AOHSR | PT: condish + NPF | oils: castor oil, grapeseed oil | other treatments: probiotics, tea rinses, AVG rinse/spritz, oil rinse | methods: LOCO, LCOGO}

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Do you seal with an oil? Also, as raindear said, try doing some deep treatments.
Originally Posted by Rimi
I don't, but I have been wanting to, I'm just not sure which is the best oil?? I've read a lot of good reviews for coconut... does it help with dryness?

I've done a number of deep treatments, but they have never seemed to help?
Are they protein deep treatments or moisturizing deep treatments?

My hair doesn't like coconut oil so i cant recommend it, but a ton of people really like it.
19 y/o lifelong natural {4a-O ; spongy ; porous ; coarse ; dense ; ~MBL stretched}

products {'poo: TJTTT shampoo | RO: TJTTT Condish, YTC Condish | LI/style: TJTTT Condish, KCCC, AOHSR, homemade cocoa butter cream | DC: SMABS Purification Masque, condish + ayurvedic powder(s), AOHSR | PT: condish + NPF | oils: castor oil, grapeseed oil | other treatments: probiotics, tea rinses, AVG rinse/spritz, oil rinse | methods: LOCO, LCOGO}

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Protein overload can cause dry brittle hair, so maybe you have a protein overload. Try checking the products you use for protein and cutting any with protein out of your regimen for a while. An easy way to do a deep treatment is to apply a heavy dose of your favorite conditioner, cover with plastic and apply heat, leaving it for an hour to overnight. if you leave it overnight, you don't need the heat. If you do have protein overload or protein issues, coconut oil might not be the best for you.
Be Happy!

Type:2b/3ab?
Texture:Medium/fine
Porosity:Normal
Elasticity:Normal

Experimenting with too many products to name here. All this great info keeps my head spinning.
I have been doing a lot from the CG method. I don't believe it's product build up, because this was a problem long before I ever started using products in my hair.

I use a leave in conditioner every day and sulfate free products.
Originally Posted by ChrystalR88
What products are you using? Like, can you list the brand names? Because if you're using sulfate free products, you usually have to be very careful about using silicones or you will get buildup. I know the John Frida you mention has silicones, and so do most hair sprays.

I second using deep treatments. They're great.
Fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity. Dyed to brown a few months ago.
Lowpoo:
Trader Joe's TTT Shampoo
Rinse Out:
Yes to Carrots, AOHR, Aubrey Organics Rosemary Peppermint
LI: Yes to Carrots
Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, LA Looks Sports, Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Whipped Mousse
Do you need the hold of a gel or spray gel? If your hair is dry but well-defined, you may be able to do conditioner-only styling. There are some recent threads here about that if you need to learn more about it.
My hair: 3b, corkicelli, medium porosity, medium texture, medium/thick density

Co-wash: DevaCurl NoPoo
Rinse-out: GVP Conditioning Balm
Leave-in: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut, or my rinse-out!
Gel: SS FHG (my new HG!!)... I also like HESMU, AIF, CJ CQ, BRHG, CJ PP and the occasional LALSG

Likes: Plopping!
Dislikes: Glycerin

CG and loving it!
Do you seal with an oil? Also, as raindear said, try doing some deep treatments.
Originally Posted by Rimi
I don't, but I have been wanting to, I'm just not sure which is the best oil?? I've read a lot of good reviews for coconut... does it help with dryness?

I've done a number of deep treatments, but they have never seemed to help?
Originally Posted by ChrystalR88
with oil everyones different. what one curly loves another cant stand it. try using a light oil to start out with if your hair likes it great, can add a bit more, always start with small amounts and add more.
same light oils: argan, jojoba, apricot, grapeseed oil

my hair: 3c, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
my hair loves conditioner only styling!
my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.

I also blog about my hair journey, please feel free to read and comment/ask questions http://www.naturallycurly.com/blogs/...air-blogs/2494
Everyone prefers a different oil, but virgin coconut oil and virgin olive oil are two of the most popular. Start with what you have in your kitchen!

I use both, depending on what my hair needs at a particular time. I like coconut oil for deep conditioning because it's penetrating and healing. I prefer olive oil for anti frizz and shine on dry hair because it's lighter and not as penetrating.

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2c/3a-M-ii porous, good elasticity, APL, dark brown with a silver lining. Biggest enemy: frizz!

Last edited by earthnut; 07-02-2012 at 04:18 PM.

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