How to get off the Gel.

Hi! So this is my first post.... I am a curly girl with pretty thick 3a/b hair which I am in the process of growing (its about bra length right now). I have been an avid gel user for 15 years, I usually drench my hair in gel, scrunch and blow dry. I only wash once or twice a week and the gel seems to hold up well. But, as my hair has been growing its getting really heavy and I'm having to use more and more gel. The other day I used just Moroccan Oil in my hair and blow dryer as normal. It actually looked just as good as with gel and its seem to hold fine (plus it made my hair soft and didn't add any weight). Then I read up on the Moroccan Oil and found out that the silicones are not good for the hair. I don't want to use gel or mousse on my hair any more.. I want to trade up for something that is healthy/moisturizing and will not weigh down my hair. I just tried pure argan oil but that's not doing much... Any ideas or suggestions???

Thanks In Advance!!
if the morrocan oil works for you use it! what might happen is that you get a little bit of build up, and you might need to wash it maybe twice a week. or you might have to give your hair a break from it. the cones in the morrocan line arent too bad, from what ive read they are water soluble. so you should be able to wash it easily out.

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if the morrocan oil works for you use it! what might happen is that you get a little bit of build up, and you might need to wash it maybe twice a week. or you might have to give your hair a break from it. the cones in the morrocan line arent too bad, from what ive read they are water soluble. so you should be able to wash it easily out.
Originally Posted by Fmasuhr
These are the ingredients I found for the Morrocan Oil

Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Butylphenyl Methyl Propional, Argania Spinoza Kernel Oil (Aragan Oil), Linseed (Linum Usitatissimum) Extract, Fragrance Supplement, D & C Yellow 11, D & C Red 17, Coumarin, Benzyl Benzoate, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone

Definitely not water soluble. It will depend on your hair how strong a sulfactant you will need to remove them. If you don't mind using 'cones and the subsequent washing--go ahead and continue using this product.

It may help you to get a haircut with long layers, to try to limit the weight of the hair. The more hair, the heavier it is. You could also try layering products, so you don't need to use as much gel. It's possible that a moisturizing leave in (with butters and oils) would seal and then adding a gel or jelly product would take care of things, while using a lot less of the gel/jelly product.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix and CCCC
Thank you both for the replies!! I do have a long layered haircut (3a/b), but still have heavy hair with dry ends. I thought using the moroccan oil would help the over all dryness of my hair but my ends don't seem to get any better. When I heard oil I just expected moisture, which hasn't happened.

I really need some suggestions. I have been researching the products wall but there are so many different products I dont know where to start. I'm dreading the idea of going to hair supply store with out any good ideas on what to purchase. Leave in conditioner? Oil? Cream? Jelly (is this like a gel?)

Oh my. I feel out of the loop. I used to come to this website all the time when I was in high school. Then I found a routine and haven't changed it in years. There are so many products.... It's overwhelming and I honestly don't know where to start.
Jelly products have the gelatinous consistency, but not all of the chemicals. (my definition)

The best way to choose ingredients/products is by hair properties. Use this link to help you with yours Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics Once you determine your properties, you can look for folks with hair like yours and see what they use (in signatures.) It's the best place to start.

I'm a know product strumpet. When I first joined, I had to try everything. I've gotten to know my hair and have a good idea of what will work for me. I do rotate products because my hair has always satiated--even back in my shampoo/conditioner only days. I wet, use a rinse out and style every day. Seldom let myself use any one product more then once every five days.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix and CCCC
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Read the "curly hair basics" this will help you to determine your hair's properties, or you can use their analysis to find them out. Once you know your hair properties, you can find out which products/ingredients are most likely to work for you. You can also check signatures here to see what works for others with hair like yours.

Oil in itself is not moisturizing, it helps to seal moisture into your hair.

Dry brittle hair can be a sign of protein overload as well as an indication of needing conditioning.

I have medium/fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity hair, and my hair loves additional protein, so I look for products with protein in them. I do a modified CG using products without sulfates and silicones, but do use sulfate free shampoos.
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Type:2b/3ab?
Texture:Medium/fine
Porosity:Normal
Elasticity:Normal

Experimenting with too many products to name here. All this great info keeps my head spinning.
Have you ever tried making your own FSG? Here's a link to a great recipe: No-fail flax seed gel - I finally did it...TWICE! It's cheap and very easy to make. The recipe can be tweaked to add whatever your hair needs and responds to - AVG, honey, olive oil, epsom salts, protein, etc. My hair is fine and FSG doesn't weigh me down no matter how much I use.
3B, fine, normal to low porosity
Modified CG since June 2010
HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
Oil is a moisturizer. It's technically an emollient, which is a type of moisturizer. There are many oils. Some are more penetrating than others, some are better at creating shine than others.

Humectants are also moisturizers, and are a main ingredient in gels. OP, you could try plain aloe vera gel for a light gel, with mild humectant properties.

Why do you want to stop using gels? Gels add moisture to the hair, and they help define curls.

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Last edited by earthnut; 07-04-2012 at 03:26 PM.
I used eco styler gel w/olive oil and because of the strong protein in it, it made my hair feel hay and dry as the desert.

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First, Thank you so much for replying!!! The links that you posted are awesome!! I learned so much from Live Curly, Live Free. I have been washing and styling my hair wrong since my hair got curly when I was 12. I think I feel pretty good about buying a non-sulfate shampoo and good conditioner with water soluble silicones or no silicones. Also I am dying to try the Flax Seed Gel. I love the idea of DYI gel, probably way cheaper then buying the stuff I've been using.

Earthnut: I wanted to stop using gel because I have been using strong hold gel's and they seem to weigh my hair down and I have a lot of hair. Its just getting too heavy for my neck. I guess before I give up gel completely I should try some light hold and see if that helps. I used the Moroccan oil and my hair looked really good, super shiny. But it's really dry. So I am going to start looking into some different options.

Thanks again for your replies, I have learned a ton!!!
I found this site today and it made me think of you! This woman likes pure aloe vera gel because it doesn't weigh her hair down. Nice video too.
http://www.acurlsbf.com/2012/04/how-...ghing.html?m=1

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2c/3a-M-ii porous, good elasticity, APL, dark brown with a silver lining. Biggest enemy: frizz!
Earthnut: I watched the video and now I am intrigued. I went out and got some aloe vera juice and intend on putting in my hair. However, I am going to try using FSG which I made today (its very thick and I am not sure what its going to do to my hair). Should be a fun experiment!!
If your FSG is too thick, you may have cooked it too long. Mine is a little thicker than egg whites. My hubby calls it snot. If it's too thick to distribute into your hair, you can still thin it out. Made a batch of FSG that is too thick... Let us know how it works!
3B, fine, normal to low porosity
Modified CG since June 2010
HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
The site does not make it very clear, I just want to say that I tried aloe vera gel today and it worked great! But aloe vera juice doesn't work nearly as well. I accidentally bought the juice when I first got it, but it's the gel you want.

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2c/3a-M-ii porous, good elasticity, APL, dark brown with a silver lining. Biggest enemy: frizz!
I used eco styler gel w/olive oil and because of the strong protein in it, it made my hair feel hay and dry as the desert.

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Originally Posted by Raina71
Yeah, I admit that it has done this to my hair too.
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Oh boy! Today was a big day for my hair. I did a couple of different things. 1. I started the CG washing system today. I officially washed my hair with shampoo for the last time today.

2. I made the FSG today, which was hilarious!! I was in the kitchen with my mom and grandma and we were watching the water get thicker and thicker, they were both pretty interested to see if I was really going to put the gel in my hair. By the end of the boiling it was like the constancy of slime (like from the library scene in Ghostbusters).

3. Used all kinds of new conditioners and Aloe Vera Juice (which may not be the right stuff after all.)

My hair looks pretty rockin' right now. Its very curly and super soft. Putting the FSG in my hair was a pretty interesting experience. I think that it was much too thick. It was like taking a handful of slime and pushing it into my hair. It was pretty gross. However my hair looks really good. I think I will try and get the FSG thinner and try again.

SO.... I have a couple of new questions, not sure if this is okay since I am kinda straying from my post. I have always washed my hair like once a week, maybe twice a week. With the CG co-washing is that too long between washes?? Is there something I should do to maintain moisture in my hair??I mean my hair always looks pretty tore up by the end of the week but I pretty much wear my hair in a messy bun 95% of the time anyway so it doesn't matter that much.

I also thought I would post my hair pics, both are from today. The first is with 6th day hair and the other is freshly washed. Not sure if you can see them that well, but my hair does look a lot better then usual.
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