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Old 07-05-2012, 12:25 AM   #1
 
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Default How to bring out the MOST curl?

I have wavy hair but it isn't exactly "curly". But all I've wanted since I was a little kid is super big, wild, crazy, curls. I've been using just plain shampoo and DevaCurl Arc Angel Gel but I'm going to invest in some NoPoo soon!

How can I make my hair curlier?

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If the photos don't work then click this and feel free to scroll through! (the ones that aren't me are my dream hair!)

Thank you guys so much! (I would ask my hair dresser... but honestly, you guys are the real experts)
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:04 AM   #2
 
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I'd try a twist and curl with something with a good hold. (I'm no expert. Just tossing it out there.) Basically you 2 strand twist then put your hair in rollers. Either blowdry or air dry if you have the time. Then you take it down, separate the curls and fluff.

I don't know how it'll work, but it's worth a shot.


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Old 07-05-2012, 06:45 AM   #3
 
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This topic has come up before in another community I belong to. That Before and After thread shows some amazing transformations. I agree with BlackAngelPlayah about trying a twist and curl, or Curlformers. CG can lead to amazing hair, but from what I've seen, the only people who get really dramatic changes in curl pattern are those who are starting out with severely damaged and chronically flat-ironed hair. For people with relatively healthy hair, there's still improvement (more definition, less frizz, etc), but not much shift in curl pattern (If you saw my picture from after my final sulfate wash vs pics from 7 months later, you wouldn't see any difference).

I'm not trying to discourage you from trying CG, but I don't want you to be disappointed if switching to no-poo doesn't give you natural 3b spirals. Wavy hair is just as gorgeous as curly hair (and is all the rage in Hollywood right now).

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Old 07-05-2012, 08:53 AM   #4
 
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I hate to be a product pusher, but this product is seriously a miracle (at least for me, haha.) Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Mousse always gives me no-fail curls! My friend recommended it to me, and she has straight hair with a little wave, but when she uses it, bouncy waves all around. I gave some to my other friend to try, too. She has straight/frizzy hair that waves a little bit in the front, but when she tried it, she actually got CURLS. It's so cheap, too. A LOT cheaper than DevaCurl.

I learned after trying a lot of the boutique and salon brands, the stuff that works best for me is in the drugstore...haha. Now my entire hair routine costs $21 instead of one product costing me that much!
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:16 AM   #5
 
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I didn't think my hair was damaged. It was soft, I never used heat styling of any kind, I generally used "good" products on it, any perms I had used had long grown out, and it never frizzed, ever.

So, when I started CG, I concentrated on "no sulfate, no silicones", I didn't really worry about protein treatments (though I did choose products with protein added when possible), didn't worry about deep treatments, and just continued my "wash and go" lifestyle.

My top and front and canopy continued to just barely wave, while my back curled like crazy. I was frustrated because even though the top was not curling, it often sprouted several lovely curls, but not always or all over. I asked a few times here what I could do to get the best possible curl out of my hair, and was basically told to accept that my front was wavy, not curly.

Well, I came to understand that the desert heat, sun, and dryness may have caused damage to my hair that I hadn't noticed, so I started conditioning more and using deep conditioning treatments. Then, I used a protein treatment, and WOW! My front went overnight from slight waves to curls, curls, curls.

So, from my experience, the way to get the best curl for your hair is to find the right moisture/protein balance for your hair. Just because you aren't aware of damage/dryness doesn't mean the condition of your hair can't be improved. There are products to increase your curl and methods to add curl, but the best natural curl will be brought out by finding the moisture/protein balance and the right products for your hair.

What worked for me won't work for everyone. Some hair doesn't like protein at all, others are picky about the amount of moisture they can/will accept, etc. But, finding the right balance for you, will make all the difference.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:52 PM   #6
 
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Have you tried using a diffuser to bring out curls? Diffusers work with your naturally curly texture and bring them out (but without the frizz). A diffuser isn't expensive, although make sure it's the right size for your hair dryer. I was lucky enough to get a Karmin G3 salon pro hair dryer for my birthday and it comes with its own diffuser

But you can pretty much buy them anywhere, most are under $20. Oh and remember to use a good heat protectant before you use it!
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I agree with raindear, healthy hair needs the right balance between moisture and protein, and everyone's hair is different. Finding out your hair's thickness, porosity, and elasticity will give you an idea of where to start, and checkout the live curly, live free site.

One thing that all curly hair has in common is that it needs more moisture than the usual sulfate shampoo routine can provide, so the first thing to do is to stop using SLS shampoos.

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Old 07-06-2012, 10:55 PM   #8
 
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My top and front and canopy continued to just barely wave, while my back curled like crazy. I was frustrated because even though the top was not curling, it often sprouted several lovely curls, but not always or all over. I asked a few times here what I could do to get the best possible curl out of my hair, and was basically told to accept that my front was wavy, not curly.

Then, I used a protein treatment, and WOW! My front went overnight from slight waves to curls, curls, curls.
OMG THANK YOU for all the great suggestions! But I have to quote this because this is EXACTLY how I feel! My hair has always been curls in the back/underneath and PIN STRAIGHT on top and in the front! I'm definitely going to try a protein treatment and also the mousse.

Any suggestions for what type protein treatment to use... I am clueless!
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Old 07-07-2012, 07:17 AM   #9
 
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There's a thread on the 2s forum for an amazing homemade PT that many of us use (IAGirls PT).

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Old 07-07-2012, 07:47 PM   #10
 
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Thank you all so much!

I have Curlformers but they are a lot of work because I have a lot of hair and it is too long to fit in them, but thank you for the suggestion!

Also I have a diffuser and that doesn't seem to help me with curls... I might be doing it wrong!

I will definitely try the protein treatment and the mousse and maybe still give CG a shot. Hopefully my hair will look like this afterwards!

Thanks again!!
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