BerryK

Im not really sure what to call them, but whenever I diffuse my hair, it comes out in small wavy strands, like when my hair is wet. Is there any way to make the strands bigger and less stringy and skinny?

rainboe

When do you apply product? It helps to apply product straight out of the shower to soaking wet hair. Also, try plopping for a few minutes. Different styling products can help too.

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Fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity. Recently dyed to dark brown.
Lowpoo: Dr. Bronner's Tea Tree Soap, L'Oreal EverCreme Intense Nourishing Shampoo
Rinse Out: Yes to Carrots, AOHR, Aubrey Organics Rosemary Peppermint
LI: Yes to Carrots
Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, LA Looks Sports, Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Whipped Mousse (has cones)
(Not totally CG anymore. Still sulfate free, but experimenting with cones.)

BerryK

Yeah, I apply products right out of the shower then diffuse. I'm going to try new products today to see what is better

curlypearl

My hair gets stringy when I use a leave-in. Not sure if that is what's happening with you, but just thought I'd mention it in case that's the problem.

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2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Protein treatment HG: Curl Junkie Repair Me
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers:Curl Junkie CCCC or CCCL
in combo with a gel, usually KCCC
Trying Curl Keeper - still experimenting

Every day is a gift

PerriP

The "super soaker" method may help (it's listed in the technique sticky). I do a modified version of that to encourage clumping. You may have to play around with it to find how it best works for you. And, the method really seems counter-intuitive, the brush (i use fine toothed comb) which separates things to actually make it clump more... But try it a time or two, it could be exactly what you're looking for

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Modified CG since Dec 2011
Growing out super short cut

High porosity, fine, unknown curl type, somewhere in the 2s at the moment

Mostly low poo
Current rotation includes:

Wash: TIGI Hi Def Curls, LUSH curly wurly

Condition: EVOO mixed with any of the following: TIGI Hi Def Curls, Renpure Red, Nature's Gate Jojoba

Stylers: TIGI control freak serum, KCCC, TIGI Foxy Curls Mousse, AIF, BRHG, TIGI Manipulator, Deva Set Up and Above, TIGI Hi Def curl spray

BerryK

I searched around for the "super soaker" thing and I couldn't find it. How do I get to the technique sticky?

SaraNoH

TECHNIQUES LINKS: SuperSoaker,Spritz&Condish,Plopping,Frizz,Clipping IceQueen, etc

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Gretchen

Rake your wet hair with your fingers to create bigger clumps. And if you could plop instead of diffuse I think you'd have better luck. If you must diffuse, be very, very gentle.

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3A

You are beautiful!

Bookworm5

Ditto on the fine toothed comb! Not sure what your hair type is, but mine is baby fine and wavy curly and I've had the best luck lately with applying KCCC to very wet (not dripping) hair, combing through to distribute, then scrunching in BRHG, blotting/scrunching a few times with my DevaCurl towel, and pixiecurl diffusing. If I just scrunch product in or wait until my hair is less wet to apply, I get the thin, stringy type curls I'd rather not have.

Good luck!

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48 y/o married mom of 3
3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

http://myhair123.shutterfly.com/pictures/5

Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse

BerryK

My hair isn't too fine, but I will try that thanks for the ideas!

curlychickie

I'm new to this too and still in the early experimental stage.

Anyway, question to Bookworm5 on applying KCCC and BRHG... are you applying right side up or upside down? You note that your hair is very wet, but not dripping. I'm currently applying it upside down, soaking wet, combing through and although I get good distribution, I find that once I flip my head back over I have to rake my fingers through my hair once again to get it to fall correctly and not be all nappy. It seems counterproductive to the scrunching I do upside down. I ask because my hair is similar to yours - 2c with some 3A, fine, medium density, low porosity.

PerriP

I realize the question wasn't for me, but what I do is put a light layer of KCCC right side up then flip over and scrunch more upside down. I've been using the comb while upside down, too. Then upside down BRHG slowly raise my head and finger place what needs to be fixed. Then ear to shoulder head tilt for side re scrunching if necessary.

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Modified CG since Dec 2011
Growing out super short cut

High porosity, fine, unknown curl type, somewhere in the 2s at the moment

Mostly low poo
Current rotation includes:

Wash: TIGI Hi Def Curls, LUSH curly wurly

Condition: EVOO mixed with any of the following: TIGI Hi Def Curls, Renpure Red, Nature's Gate Jojoba

Stylers: TIGI control freak serum, KCCC, TIGI Foxy Curls Mousse, AIF, BRHG, TIGI Manipulator, Deva Set Up and Above, TIGI Hi Def curl spray

PerriP

I knew I missed a step as I was typing! After the upside down comb through, before my BRHG I do modified super soaker at the sink, scrunching in some water. Blot with microfiber towel, then do the upside down BRHG.

I know it sounds convoluted but I hope it helps

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Modified CG since Dec 2011
Growing out super short cut

High porosity, fine, unknown curl type, somewhere in the 2s at the moment

Mostly low poo
Current rotation includes:

Wash: TIGI Hi Def Curls, LUSH curly wurly

Condition: EVOO mixed with any of the following: TIGI Hi Def Curls, Renpure Red, Nature's Gate Jojoba

Stylers: TIGI control freak serum, KCCC, TIGI Foxy Curls Mousse, AIF, BRHG, TIGI Manipulator, Deva Set Up and Above, TIGI Hi Def curl spray

Bookworm5

Hi, CurlyChickie! I lightly blot my hair just enough to keep it from dripping and then I smooth and rake the KCCC into my hair both right side up and upside down, roots to tips, trying to distribute as well as possible, then I comb through upside down and again right side up. I then flip upside down, insert my fingers into my hair at the roots and just jiggle them a little to move the hair off my scalp, then scrunch BRHG into my hair upside down, then side to side while right side up, finger placing anything that needs to be moved, as PerriP said.

I was having trouble getting my roots covered well enough with product without combing, and so when I tried to move my hair back into place it would cause clumps to break apart and frizz to form. With the thorough combing, I'm no longer having this problem. Super clumping and zero frizz!

HTH!

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48 y/o married mom of 3
3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

http://myhair123.shutterfly.com/pictures/5

Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse

curlychickie

Aha! Thank you so much for clarifying Bookworm5. I can't wait to try that technique out.

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curlychickie

Thank you also PerriP for your suggestions.

I think I'm going to have to run out and get some BRHG. I'm noticing lots of wavies are using it and are happy with the results. I'm thinking the DevaAngel is contributing to the stringyness and lack of curl.

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Bookworm5

You're welcome! Yes, BRHG is amazing! It's the only hard hold gel I've tried, so I don't know how it compares with anything else, but I find I must use it or my hair falls flat.

Good luck! Please post your results!

BerryK, any luck with new techniques yet?

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48 y/o married mom of 3
3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

http://myhair123.shutterfly.com/pictures/5

Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse

lucyprimrose

I have wavy hair which can do the stringy thing when diffused and I'm still working it out, but so far as I've got I think this helps. While you hair is still very wet put in some leave in conditioner if you use one, and drop or two of sealant if you use one. For styler, I'd use gel, if diffusing, or possibly curl cream depending on how much hold you need. Not mousse, that can be string inducing. The most important thing is as you put the gel on to take sections which you intend to clump and twist/fingertwirl them between your fingers then scrunch a bit, till that clump looks fairly held together. Finally when all clumps are done, take a tiny bit of gel and just scrunch around a bit, not disturbing the curl, then pixie diffuse.

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UK based wavy

Mostly waves, but curls and straight bits too!
Fine to medium, high porosity, medium density, very low elasticity
Highlights damage (growing it out), seems to like protein and need lots of moisture.

Cleanse - CJDF, trying out low poos ; Co wash- Uk chemist brands, Urtekram Rose or Aloe, Hairveda Amala Cream Rinse; RO - varies, Tigi Moisture Maniac, Desert Essence Coconut ; Leave in - Keracare natural textures; Sealant - argan oil
Trying out new things, still looking.

SpiralSpunk

I'm having the same problem and gonna your suggestions tomorrow Bookworm5. But what's BRHG? And do you use a leave-in?

Bookworm5

SpiralSpunk, BRHG = Biosilk Rock Hard Gellee - and boy, is it rock hard! It is a favorite of many, it seems

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48 y/o married mom of 3
3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

http://myhair123.shutterfly.com/pictures/5

Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse