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Old 02-24-2013, 10:58 PM   #41
 
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As it is, not great slip, but it I splash a bit of water on my head, I then get great slip and clumping.
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:07 AM   #42
 
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It's a great cowash and it works well with oils for a pre-poo. It's not a good leave-in for me b/c of the minimal slip.

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Really?? I get GREAT slip with it! And my fine, dense, long, porous hair needs a lot of slip! In fact I'm kinda a slip snob!

It also gives me great clumps!
Heee heee!! I'm very slip particular myself.....for slip I use AO white Camellia.

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Old 02-25-2013, 12:15 AM   #43
 
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not alot of slip but its soo moisturizing for my hair
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:49 AM   #44
 
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Really??? All of you guys find it has low slip?? That's so odd! I must be a freak! Lol! I'll admit there are slippier things out there, but I have found GBPCB to have GREAT slip!

I wonder if there's any correlation between liking this product (or not) and hair porosity? Lately I have found porosity to be more of a factor in many aspects than I ever would have thought.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:01 AM   #45
 
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Really??? All of you guys find it has low slip?? That's so odd! I must be a freak! Lol! I'll admit there are slippier things out there, but I have found GBPCB to have GREAT slip!

I wonder if there's any correlation between liking this product (or not) and hair porosity? Lately I have found porosity to be more of a factor in many aspects than I ever would have thought.
I have medium to low porosity.

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Old 02-25-2013, 09:09 AM   #46
 
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See? I'm med-HIGH porosity... Maybe there IS something to that!!!
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That's too bad it doesn't work for some. I have used it for 5 years and still love it. I tried the actual Matrix Biolage brand and much prefer the GVP to it. I love that it has so many uses. For me, I've used it as a co-wash, rinse out, leave-in and deep treatment. What more could you ask for from an inexpensive conditioner?
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:43 AM   #48
 
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That's too bad it doesn't work for some. I have used it for 5 years and still love it. I tried the actual Matrix Biolage brand and much prefer the GVP to it. I love that it has so many uses. For me, I've used it as a co-wash, rinse out, leave-in and deep treatment. What more could you ask for from an inexpensive conditioner?
I tried the Matrix version and preferred it much more then the GVP brand.

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Old 02-25-2013, 09:12 PM   #49
 
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I believe the matrix version now has a cone....
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:40 PM   #50
 
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I believe the matrix version now has a cone....
I used my sisters when I visited her in Texas and her bottle didn't have any cones.

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Old 02-25-2013, 10:10 PM   #51
 
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Oh! That's good! A hair stylist on here was saying it did now, I thought! And everyone was afraid that would mean they'd add it to the GVP version.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:23 PM   #52
 
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I have used both the GVP and Matrix and I think the Matrix is a little better for my hair, but the difference is negligible.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:58 AM   #53
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Really??? All of you guys find it has low slip?? That's so odd! I must be a freak! Lol! I'll admit there are slippier things out there, but I have found GBPCB to have GREAT slip!

I wonder if there's any correlation between liking this product (or not) and hair porosity? Lately I have found porosity to be more of a factor in many aspects than I ever would have thought.
Yes, I too am fine, thick, dense and porous and I get excellent slip with it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:34 PM   #54
 
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I have tried it a few more times since my last post and I like it. I do find it rather easy to de-tangle with and it does leave my hair feeling soft but the smell isn't so pleasent.
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the smell of it smells like fried hair when you walk into a hair salon lol
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:02 PM   #56
 
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Really??? All of you guys find it has low slip?? That's so odd! I must be a freak! Lol! I'll admit there are slippier things out there, but I have found GBPCB to have GREAT slip!

I wonder if there's any correlation between liking this product (or not) and hair porosity? Lately I have found porosity to be more of a factor in many aspects than I ever would have thought.
Maybe it does. Im guessing it may have something to do with how wet your hair is when you use it. Highly porous hair gets sopping wet easily, right?

I have low porosity hair so I tend to have to wet it down again after applying conditioner to get that sopping seaweed feeling. It's not really wet right off the bat.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:59 AM   #57
 
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That's so hard for me to imagine!! Lol!! My hair is wet in humid air, let alone in the shower!!
But that makes total sense - it's a very thick condish, so I can see how it would work better with more water!
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Still a newbie here, can anyone advise if this would be good as a DC?
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:07 AM   #59
 
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Still a newbie here, can anyone advise if this would be good as a DC?
I use this as an overnight treatment for my fine hair =)
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:19 AM   #60
 
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I bought it once after all the reviews and it didn't do anything me either! It was very thick (which I love) but it just seemed to sit on my hair like it never penetrated!

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