GVP Conditioning Balm- not impressed

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Still a newbie here, can anyone advise if this would be good as a DC?
Originally Posted by curlygirlelaina
It could be a great deep conditioner if you mix it with an oil.

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3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
hemp oil, jojoba oil
www.naturesnectars.net
Really??? All of you guys find it has low slip?? That's so odd! I must be a freak! Lol! I'll admit there are slippier things out there, but I have found GBPCB to have GREAT slip!

I wonder if there's any correlation between liking this product (or not) and hair porosity? Lately I have found porosity to be more of a factor in many aspects than I ever would have thought.
Originally Posted by Jas76
Maybe it does. Im guessing it may have something to do with how wet your hair is when you use it. Highly porous hair gets sopping wet easily, right?

I have low porosity hair so I tend to have to wet it down again after applying conditioner to get that sopping seaweed feeling. It's not really wet right off the bat.
Originally Posted by SpiralSpunk

I am medium to low porosity too and have a hard time getting my hair wet in the shower, I have to rewet my hair after detangling conditioner and wait for like 2 minutes to start detangling!

"My husband would yell- why are you standing doing nothing in the shower" lol
3a with some 2a-2c, Medium/Low Porosity
Co-wash:deva no-poo/Vo5 kiwi
Detangle:Suave
Leave-in:Shea Moisture/GVP conditioning Balm/AOHSR

Since long hair- I finger twist in big chunks, which helps till 5th day hair
Gel:LA sports
Plop: Old T-shirt for 15 minutes ,diffuse
Still a newbie here, can anyone advise if this would be good as a DC?
Originally Posted by curlygirlelaina
It could be a great deep conditioner if you mix it with an oil.

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Originally Posted by kurlygurly
Yep!! I use it and mix EVOO and honey for a DT!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Thanks everyone! I did a PT on Monday, and would like to do a DT tonight and I do have some of this.
Jas - how much EVOO and Honey do you add? And how long does everyone leave it on for??
Oh... I don't measure, really. :/ maybe a quarter sized puddle of EVOO and a dime of honey? I just sort of eyeball it.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Oh... I don't measure, really. :/ maybe a quarter sized puddle of EVOO and a dime of honey? I just sort of eyeball it.
Originally Posted by Jas76
Thanks, I am not usually much of measurer either just needed a general idea. I will try it out tonight! How long do you leave it on?
Still a newbie here, can anyone advise if this would be good as a DC?
Originally Posted by curlygirlelaina
It could be a great deep conditioner if you mix it with an oil.

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Originally Posted by kurlygurly
Yep!! I use it and mix EVOO and honey for a DT!
Originally Posted by Jas76
Yay! We agree about something with this product!!!


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3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
hemp oil, jojoba oil
www.naturesnectars.net
I just bought this and I love it. lOVE it. Fr the first time, ever, my hair isn't in knots!
Rae ~ 2c/3a ~
Wife to a 3c Curly Guy
Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
Lol! Of COURSE you do, hair twin!!

It really is my HG condish. Nothing else compares!!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Jas, I've been searching for some thread to tell you if my success! Why does our hair love it?, I'm having the BEST hair day ever, no joke. I actually stood in the mirror thinking, "ok, now I've done it. This is the peak. I've perfected it." Lol. Is that super lame?,
ricotdorothy likes this.
Rae ~ 2c/3a ~
Wife to a 3c Curly Guy
Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
I love that you only need like a drop of this stuff to spread it in your hair. at least for me. it's the only thing that keeps my hair healthy in the winter.
I believe the matrix version now has a cone....
Originally Posted by Jas76
I used my sisters when I visited her in Texas and her bottle didn't have any cones.

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Originally Posted by kurlygurly
In the Uk I'm fairly sure the Matrix Biolage Hydratherapie Conditioning Balm doesn't have a cone (I have some, I like it, I'm v porous too), but there is an ultra hydrating conditioning balm by Matrix which does have amodimethicone.

I don't think the GVP version is available in the Uk, wish it was.
UK based wavy

Mostly waves, but curls and straight bits too!
Fine to medium, high porosity, medium density, very low elasticity
Highlights damage (growing it out), seems to like protein and need lots of moisture.

Cleanse - CJDF, trying out low poos ; Co wash- Uk chemist brands, Urtekram Rose or Aloe, Hairveda Amala Cream Rinse; RO - varies, Tigi Moisture Maniac, Desert Essence Coconut ; Leave in - Keracare natural textures; Sealant - argan oil
Trying out new things, still looking.
Jas, I've been searching for some thread to tell you if my success! Why does our hair love it?, I'm having the BEST hair day ever, no joke. I actually stood in the mirror thinking, "ok, now I've done it. This is the peak. I've perfected it." Lol. Is that super lame?,
Originally Posted by Houseofcurls
LOL! Super lame? Maybe, but I can't say I've never had those moments! Lol!!

I know... I was out of it for a while, and when I got more I was kicking myself for waiting so long to re-stock!! My hair ADORES this!!

Do you have an CNPF?? You can mix some with it if you need a protein hit on any given day!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
What's cnfp?
Rae ~ 2c/3a ~
Wife to a 3c Curly Guy
Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
Or cnpf?
Rae ~ 2c/3a ~
Wife to a 3c Curly Guy
Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
Or you kwim..
Rae ~ 2c/3a ~
Wife to a 3c Curly Guy
Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
LOL! It's Colorful Neutral Protein Filler from Sally's! It's a liquid protein solution used when coloring hair, or as a protein treatment or additive. It's great stuff! You can even dilute it and make a protein spray!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Hmm my hair loves it as a leave-in i guess everyone is different. It doesn't leave my hair crunchy like other conditioners...just soft, bouncy, and defined
3A Curl Pattern, Low Porosity, High Density, Medium Width, Long Length

Loving my curls/waves!


Product loves: Chagrin Valley Shampoo Bars, ACV rinses, Suave Naturals Conditioner wash on in between days, silk scrunchies, Ouidad Curl refreshing spray, Avocado/olive oil/honey deep treatment, Coconut oil on ends/length

Currently waist length while wet and going for waist length while dry!
Skeptical however Happy to try this gvp condish balm i just bought this evening hopefully it works for me !!!
I bought the matrix conditioning balm last week, and my hair absolutely loves it. I want to try it with evoo and honey as a dt and see how it goes.
Hair type: 2c/3a, fine, med density, med-high porosity
Co-wash: tresemme naturals
RO: garnier fructis nutri-repair nourishing, matrix cb, ytc
LI: sukin, matrix cb, kckt
Sealer: argan oil, coconut oil
Gel: garnier fructis endurance 24 hr, kccc
Dt: matrix cb, alchemy masque
Pt: gelatin, joico Kpak

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