WavesnWheels

Hi- I'm new around here and a new CG. I've been officially CG for the past 6 weeks, but have been sulfate and silicone free for about a year without realizing it. It's been a lot of fun lurking around here and figuring out all the lingo and how to take care of my hair- I've seen such a difference already!

Spending time here has unleashed my inner CJ, and I've aready purchased samples (and some full sizes) of some of the products that seem to be popular with other curlies/wavies with similar hair charactaristics, and was surprised that my hair seems to hate SSCEG, SSFHG, AG ReCoil, and BRHG. When using these products, my hair became dry and hay-like. Reading the labels, the only ingredient that these products seem to have in common is protein, so I went on a protein fast (including using protein free lo-poo and conditioner), and have noticed a difference.

So could a little protein in styling products really make that much of a difference in the softness of my hair? Is there something else in these products that could be causing the problem?

Thanks!

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2B, normal porosity, elasticity, thickness, texture, moisture loving, protein leery...
Favorites:
CO: Whole Foods Lavender Conditioner
LO: Dessert Essence Coconut, Pure and Basic Clarifying Shampoo
RO: SSDDMT
DT: JCDCT, SSDDMT
Style: AOMM, CCCL, KMFUM, KCTT

Corrina777

If your hair is protein sensitive then yes, it really could make that much of a difference.

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3a/f/iii Before the chop- Donated to Locks of Love, January 2013
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CO-WASH: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo
CLARIFY: CHS Treatment Shampoo (used prior to PT/DT)
RO: DevaCare One Condition, Regis Olive Oil
LI: Cure Care, As I Am Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Biotera Gel, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, GVP Liquid Sculpting Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse
PT/DT: IAGirl's PT, One n' Only Argan Hydrating Mask

Lucky Charm

Protein could do it - I had a terrible time trying Ouidad products because of the protein in everything. I backed off protein for a while, and I can now add it in here and there, but I have to be careful.

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- 2C - Coarse Canopy & med/fine underlayers
- MOP C Hydrating 'poo
- LOreal Natures Therapy Moisturizing condish, ION Effective Care, Garnier S&S (old formula)
- treatments: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Repair Me!
- plopping, diffusing, and clipping the roots

WavesnWheels

Thanks- I'm surprised that protein actually makes it into the hair shaft from styling products. This is good to know!

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2B, normal porosity, elasticity, thickness, texture, moisture loving, protein leery...
Favorites:
CO: Whole Foods Lavender Conditioner
LO: Dessert Essence Coconut, Pure and Basic Clarifying Shampoo
RO: SSDDMT
DT: JCDCT, SSDDMT
Style: AOMM, CCCL, KMFUM, KCTT

kathymack

It could be the protein, but it might be different things. SS CEJ and ReCoil both contain salts--which some find drying. I don't use gel because my hair doesn't like the chemicals (BRHG), especially polyquats (SS FHG.)

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3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; DM MiraCurls Curling Gelly; UFD Curly Magic; Shescentit LIs; Sevi conditioners; Botanical Spirits Puree, CJ Repair Me

WavesnWheels

I'm wondering if my hair just may prefer natural products as well. I'd been using CK with some success, and yesterday my hair was so dry. I've also tried a handful of CG drugstore products, but no luck there yet either.

I'm going to try KT and KCCC next.

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2B, normal porosity, elasticity, thickness, texture, moisture loving, protein leery...
Favorites:
CO: Whole Foods Lavender Conditioner
LO: Dessert Essence Coconut, Pure and Basic Clarifying Shampoo
RO: SSDDMT
DT: JCDCT, SSDDMT
Style: AOMM, CCCL, KMFUM, KCTT

Fmasuhr

i went through that stage as well last year. also protein sensitive, i can handle a little protein in small amounts n only sometimes. but i am really carefull with it. i too prefere ntural products, ive tried 2 different types of gels, and different types of hair creams, but as i really want that impressed about it, i thought i didnt wanna spend my hard earnd cash on it.
so now i keep my hair n scalp as healty as i can n just condition style with oil. my hair loves oil, i cant seem to over do the coconut or argan oil.
maybe you'll have luck with oils?

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my hair: 3c, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
my hair loves conditioner only styling!
my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.

I also blog about my hair journey, please feel free to read and comment/ask questions http://www.naturallycurly.com/blogs/...air-blogs/2494

WavesnWheels

I've never tried oils, because my hair is wavy, but I think I'll give them a try just to see. Thanks!

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2B, normal porosity, elasticity, thickness, texture, moisture loving, protein leery...
Favorites:
CO: Whole Foods Lavender Conditioner
LO: Dessert Essence Coconut, Pure and Basic Clarifying Shampoo
RO: SSDDMT
DT: JCDCT, SSDDMT
Style: AOMM, CCCL, KMFUM, KCTT

rymorg2

Wavesnwheels, oils are VERY good for wavy hair, you just have to find the right ones!

I have fine hair but a ton of it. I use coconut oil on a regular basis, as well as argan and camellia. I've tried a ton of them, and some I like ok (jojoba, sweet almond, plum kernel, pumpkin seed, etc) but those three are my go to oils on a daily basis.

I use very little though to smooth. If I'm doing a heavy oiling overnight before a low poo or co wash I'll use more, but usually it's just a bit on my hands smoothed over dry hair.

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Cosmetology Educator with sensitivities, eczema and Seborrheic Dermatitis.
Ingredients Maven
Products: Free and Clear sulfate free poo and condish, Theraneem Sulfate Free Shampoo/Condish, Unscented SSCEJ, Coconut oil, Camellia oil, Argan oil
Lady Karaan, High Priestess of Hayr Tretements in the Order of Curly Crusaders
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WavesnWheels

Thanks, rymorg2. Do you find that an overnight oiling has the same effect as a deep moisturizing treatment (not protein)?

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2B, normal porosity, elasticity, thickness, texture, moisture loving, protein leery...
Favorites:
CO: Whole Foods Lavender Conditioner
LO: Dessert Essence Coconut, Pure and Basic Clarifying Shampoo
RO: SSDDMT
DT: JCDCT, SSDDMT
Style: AOMM, CCCL, KMFUM, KCTT

rymorg2

Coconut oil is more like a combination protein/moisture treatment. I have heard varied things about if there's protein in there, but I have an organic coconut oil that has coconut solids in it for extra protein. If you're looking for moisture then oils work better to seal, after a wash. It takes very little to do that.

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Cosmetology Educator with sensitivities, eczema and Seborrheic Dermatitis.
Ingredients Maven
Products: Free and Clear sulfate free poo and condish, Theraneem Sulfate Free Shampoo/Condish, Unscented SSCEJ, Coconut oil, Camellia oil, Argan oil
Lady Karaan, High Priestess of Hayr Tretements in the Order of Curly Crusaders
Fotki updated 10/12/10 Password: wavy

WavesnWheels

Thanks for the information!

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2B, normal porosity, elasticity, thickness, texture, moisture loving, protein leery...
Favorites:
CO: Whole Foods Lavender Conditioner
LO: Dessert Essence Coconut, Pure and Basic Clarifying Shampoo
RO: SSDDMT
DT: JCDCT, SSDDMT
Style: AOMM, CCCL, KMFUM, KCTT