To the condition style curlies

greencup13 · 09-17-2012, 10:21 PM

I know there are a number of us that are using conditioner only to style your hair. I have been using this for 4 months now and loving it. Recently my hair has just been getting dry. (Im guessing because of the cool temps and low dew points). Ive been trying to get moisture into my hair. First I reapplied conditioner throughout the day and before bed but my hair just got greasy. Next I was looking into sealers and decided on shea butter. Ive been using conditioner and sealing my hair with shea butter for about a week now and I believe it helped a lot but something still isnt right.

My question to you curlies is if you change your conditioner or routine with the dew points. Do any of you seal?

greencup13 · 09-18-2012, 01:05 PM

anyone

rbb · 09-19-2012, 12:04 PM

i just started sealing almost every day as i realized whether dew points were moderate or very low, my hair lost moisture as day went on. it's been a total transformation, springy curls all day!

my hair does not like straight oils and i never used just shea butter. i've been using jane carter nourish and shine, which is almost all butters and it's been working. in the past for very low dews in addition the jane carter i've used ss emollience butter which is good and i will try in these moderate dews, and john masters pomade, which is also good but makes my hair smell like a christmas tree.

maybe you need to add a styler over the leave in and under the sealer? i've been doing that for past two weeks. i've been using either cj cccc or cj honey butta as stylers, not leave ins.
or, you might just need a heavier conditioner as leave in. most of us do as the dew points go down. i'd try more conditioner or a heavier one (i use cj curl rehab, or cj deep fix, or ss deeply decadent) and maybe a little more sealant.

greencup13 · 09-19-2012, 07:31 PM

Excellent. Great advice. I've been looking into Jane carter and I just purchased CJ deep fix.

greencup13 · 09-19-2012, 09:18 PM

Are pomades sealers?

rbb · 09-20-2012, 06:29 AM

i think pomades are sealers, am pretty sure they are. there is an article by the curlchemist on this that might explain it better:

Humidity, Humectants and the Dew Point

Fmasuhr · 09-20-2012, 01:00 PM

i conditioner only style, n ive found the very best method, is mixing a bit of oil in the palm of my hands as im doing my condish, and mixing the condish in with the oil in my hands. so when i apply it, i get the condish and the oil. i dont use much oil a pea size amount though it also seals the moisture in.

rmc2 · 09-20-2012, 01:50 PM

Fmsauhr this is a great idea which I will adopt.

rmc2 · 09-20-2012, 02:19 PM

I read best sealers are:
Sweet almond oil, saddler oil, argan oil
You want an oil that will not penetrate much into hair so that it can seal that Conditioner/ Moisture in your. Coconut oil and Shea butter for example penetrate more easily into hair so these ones strengthen hair but have a relatively lower sealing power (for lack of a better expression!
Order of product should be:
Water then leave in Conditioner then oil. Or you can i guess mix the oil with the conditioner as someone else suggested

rmc2 · 09-20-2012, 02:19 PM

Sunflower oil

greencup13 · 09-20-2012, 02:39 PM

Okay so the shea was probably a bad choice. Now to pick an oil.

I just ordered some kinky curly gloss pomade to use for 2nd day frizz. I was hoping may I could use that as a sealer too.

Ive been wanting to try the jane carter nourish and shine also but Im not sure what is the best way to go for a sealer.

I also tried a heavier condish today. I used GVP balm as a LI and used my shea butter. Hair is still drying so results are pending.

testimony777 · 09-20-2012, 09:14 PM

I use safflower oil to seal and I seal every time I style. I have been doing this since March. It has worked very well through Spring, and Summer and it seems to be working just fine as we approach Fall but I don't know yet if I will have to change it up for the Winter. However, my hair has never been that temperamental as far as weather and products are concerned. I don't typically have to adjust my products, I just use more or less of whatever I am using at the time (more when the air is dry, less when it is humid) based on the feel of my hair.

simranchauhan · 09-21-2012, 12:46 AM

Use natural oils to cure your hair regularly. Because it contains all the nourishment required for your hair...

Davana Oil

Fmasuhr · 09-21-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rmc2

Fmsauhr this is a great idea which I will adopt.

give it ago, it also seems to hold my hair in place better. i use: aprecot oil, macadamia nut oil, argan, coconut or if my hair is in a bad state then hemp seed oil. i rotate my oils depending on what my hair "feels" like. aprecot and argan are extreamly light, so is mac nut oil.

greencup13 · 10-03-2012, 08:21 PM

Does anyone know if essential oils like lavender can be used to seal. Im planning on getting a bottle to use for homemade deodorant and was hoping I could multi use.

Im still just a little confused on how your know if your hair "likes" an oil. A lot of people say "my hair didnt like _____" and Im just really not sure. Im still using shea butter and Im still not sure if my hair likes it or not. My ends still just seem fuzzed out.

I just cut the protein out of my routine because Im thinking the protein is the culprit of my dry hair. I still dont know.

I dont know how long i should give the no protein and shea butter a try or if i should try another oil.

juanab · 10-03-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by greencup13

Does anyone know if essential oils like lavender can be used to seal. Im planning on getting a bottle to use for homemade deodorant and was hoping I could multi use.

Im still just a little confused on how your know if your hair "likes" an oil. A lot of people say "my hair didnt like _____" and Im just really not sure. Im still using shea butter and Im still not sure if my hair likes it or not. My ends still just seem fuzzed out.

I just cut the protein out of my routine because Im thinking the protein is the culprit of my dry hair. I still dont know.

I dont know how long i should give the no protein and shea butter a try or if i should try another oil.

You will have to mix the essential oil with a carrier oil. You shouldn't put it directly on your hair or scalp. Jojoba oil is a good carrier oil to mix it with.

Fmasuhr · 10-04-2012, 09:21 AM

yes, lavender oil is far too strong mix it with a base oil. the conditioner only worked great in summer, but im wondering if its good enough for the winter? im thinking i might have to add more oil to my ends. cause i really dont have to have to trim, im taking special care of my ends as much as i can.

anonymous_125408 · 10-04-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rmc2

I read best sealers are:
Sweet almond oil, saddler oil, argan oil
You want an oil that will not penetrate much into hair so that it can seal that Conditioner/ Moisture in your. Coconut oil and Shea butter for example penetrate more easily into hair so these ones strengthen hair but have a relatively lower sealing power (for lack of a better expression!
Order of product should be:
Water then leave in Conditioner then oil. Or you can i guess mix the oil with the conditioner as someone else suggested

What about a mix (about equal in ratio) of sweet almond oil, jojoba oil, and rose hip oil? Does anyone know what properties that combination might have and what it would be best used for? (ie moisturizing, humectant, sealant, etc) I made it as a face serum intending to give as gifts and sell it, but I have A TON leftover... thinking I might be able to use it on my hair!

Oh... need to fix my siggy, my hair is medium to high in porosity, fine to medium strands (sorry it's not more specific, I'm still not 100% sure), and love moisture.

Fmasuhr · 10-04-2012, 01:18 PM

that sounds like a lovely combo! rose hip oil has quiet a bit of vitamine c, which is great for the hair. including helping to repair damaged hair. on the scalp it would help with hair growth.
sweet almond oil, i found is a bit too heavy for me and tends to make my hair greasy, though if you can take it is a great moisturiser.
jojoba oil is quiet popular, it penertrates the hair so it helps with shine and is a great moistureiser and sealer. it also matches your bodys own oil so its great to moisterise yours scalp n help with growth a well.

anonymous_125408 · 10-04-2012, 01:23 PM

Great... now what do I do with it?

LOL