Oils make my hair frizzy?

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Why does oil give me frizz? I've tried several, coconut, jojoba, grape seed, extra virgin olive oil, ect. And even if i use the tiniest amount, it gives my hair frizz and makes my hair tangle easier. I wanna seal so i can retain length but no oil will work. :/

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Maybe it's the way you apply them? That would be my guess. How/when do you apply them? How much of them?

Sometimes we can use the right stuff, but our technique is what fails us. I know I've had that many times.
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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I use a tiny amount, less than a dime. Maybe half of a dime size. And i scrunch it in to my ends and rub some down the length of my hair. Maybe that's the problem? I never knew how to seal or what to do.

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I use oil to seal on very wet hair just out of the shower (over LI.)

And I will use it to tame frizz. I sort of "pet" it down the length to smooth, then VERY gently scrunch (or maybe just "lift" with a mostly open hand) the ends.

My hair does not respond well to doing anything much to it while it's dry. That's why if my hair doesn't survive the night I can't usually get 2nd day hair. If I wake up and it looks ok, that's one thing. But if I have to "refresh" at all, it usually doesn't go well.

Oil is the least distructive of things I've put on my dry hair, but it's still frizzier than when I started, even if my curls are springer.

I have had SOME luck with spritzing my hair with a mixture of water, protein, condish, and sometimes some gel and/or a tiny bit of Epsom.

Then I gently scrunch with oil on my hands. The spritzing part seems to put more moisture in, which springs the curls and helps with the frizzing, but the clumps still tend to break up.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Make sure u apply oil on wet hair..Try LOC method.. Leavein , oil and then curl cream or any other stylers.. Dis way the moisture from the leave in gets sealed which helps the hair to stay happy n calm .. Hope dis helps


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Hair type-3A/B fine ,dense,normal porosity..
LOW POO : SM Moisture Retention,TBS Rainforest Moisture shampoo
NO POO-DevaCurl No poo
COWASH-Suave coconut,Tressemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture,Vo5 kiwi Lime
RO -DevaCurl One Condish,Shea moisture condish,Matrix Biolage CB
LI- AO GVP protein balancing condish,SM thickening Yucca growth milk,SM Shea Butter Leave in
Stylers - SM smoothie,Aveda Flaxseed Aloe Gel,Eco Styler (Protein and Olive oil),Deva Arc Angel
A few drops of argan oil added to my leave-in is the only type of oil that make my hair soft, retain moisture, and not frizzy. Others make mine feel dry and frizz up too, but argan oil is wonderful! I also heard baobab is great.
2c/2b with some 2a, coarse, dense, thick, low porosity
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Cleanser: BRÖÖ Smoothing I.P.A. Shampoo
RO: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

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silk protein, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils/products, cowashing
There is absolutely no way I can apply a straight oil to wet hair. Any clumps, smoothness, or resemblance of controlled kempt hair is eradicated. Doesn't matter if I apply it before a leave-in, after leave-in but before gel, or even after all other styling products. Frizz, frizz, frizz and probably a couple of expletives lol.

My hair has a tight curl pattern which needs oil the most. So I finally figured out that if I wait until my hair is completely dry and then add a little bit of oil as a finisher and to the ends then it's all good. In that case it's a light oil (pure argan oil usually) Or if I am going to low-poo, the night before I will apply a thicker oil (avocado) and leave-in overnight so the hair can absorb some and then wash it out in the a.m.

My hair reacts the same way to oils on wet hair as it does to silicone serums, so I've decided it is because my hair is low porosity and doesn't need that kind of sealing. Maybe that's the case with you, OP?

Edit: The other thing you could do is look into trying a richer leave-in that has oils in it. That could double as your moisture and sealant without the extra step. I do this and it works so if I can't apply my finishing oil, I don't worry too much.
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Last edited by artemis513; 09-22-2012 at 01:45 PM.
Oh wow thanks for all the replies everybody! I have to say, oil on wet hair is a big no no. I have no clue why, but it reacts just like the last poster said, it ruins my curls. I'll try doing my regular routine, then wait til it drys some and is a little crunchy, and before i scrunch that out, try adding jojoba or grapeseed oil. Because i have a lot of both of those right now. I also diffuse after it drys around 50/75 % so I'm hoping grapeseed will work since it also works as a heat protector on hair. I REALLY appreciate the replies, if using it on dry hair doesn't work I'll give it another go with wet like some of you guys suggested. Maybe Its not the oil, maybe I'm using my products out of whack. I use a silicone free serum, the loreal one first out the shower, then the shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie, then detangle my hair, then apply a little more smoothie if needed for moisture, and then this is where id do the oil and id smooth and scrunch it in, then 3 in 1 conditioning mousse, then eco styler krystal. Hmm, I'm just trying to make it work lol.

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Oh and would the shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie count? Since it has oils? i tried adding a bit of oil to it to use but it still didn't work well. I think my new regimen is shocking my hair. I've always been SO simple. I used to, up until 1 1/2 weeks ago, just use vo5 moisture milk conditioner as a leave in, and some krystal gel over it. And let it air dry. That's it.

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Oh and would the shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie count? Since it has oils? i tried adding a bit of oil to it to use but it still didn't work well. I think my new regimen is shocking my hair. I've always been SO simple. I used to, up until 1 1/2 weeks ago, just use vo5 moisture milk conditioner as a leave in, and some krystal gel over it. And let it air dry. That's it.

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Originally Posted by DepressedCurls
You might be overdoing it. What made you want to change your routine? Do you know your hair's porosity?

Shea Moisture's Curl Enhancing Smoothie already has a ton of oil in it. Adding more oil to it is overkill IMO.

Also, I have used the smoothie on my hair but I didn't add anything else besides a gel. I should also mention that I had to add it to hair that wasn't soaking wet but most of the water was squeezed out and a little of my rinse out left in there so allow the smoothie to glide on...but that is in the winter time. Maybe you should check out the Curl & Style Milk from the same line? It's lightweight but still rich. That might be a good leave-in under the eco gel.
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Last edited by artemis513; 09-22-2012 at 02:14 PM.
Oh and would the shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie count? Since it has oils? i tried adding a bit of oil to it to use but it still didn't work well. I think my new regimen is shocking my hair. I've always been SO simple. I used to, up until 1 1/2 weeks ago, just use vo5 moisture milk conditioner as a leave in, and some krystal gel over it. And let it air dry. That's it.

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Originally Posted by DepressedCurls
You might be overdoing it. What made you want to change your routine? Do you know your hair's porosity?

Shea Moisture's Curl Enhancing Smoothie already has a ton of oil in it. Adding more oil to it is overkill IMO.

Also, I have used the smoothie on my hair but I didn't add anything else besides a gel. I should also mention that I had to add it to hair that wasn't soaking wet but most of the water was squeezed out and a little of my rinse out left in there so allow the smoothie to glide on...but that is in the winter time. Maybe you should check out the Curl & Style Milk from the same line? It's lightweight but still rich. That might be a good leave-in under the eco gel.
Originally Posted by artemis513

Idk, i think the PJ in me kind of took over, and i still had frizz. I wanted something more moisturizing and i wanted something else to alternate with. But I'm not sure. I thought high, because of running my fingers up it. But then my hair doesn't hold color, so i thought low because of what i was told. I'm just really not sure. I just tried it again, and my nail glides up it relatively easy. Kind of almost feels squeaky or something, i don't know. But i may just stick to the shea moisture and gel and see if that works. I always leave a little conditioner in my hair from my shower, GVP conditioning balm. And i used that awhile back and all i remember is it drying out my ends, but i might have just used too much, too often, or something. I sti have a little left. I may try it under some eco and see if it works.
I just feel like my hair is dry, and it breaks so easy. I wanna maintain length and finally grow it past this length.

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Lol, yeah going from vo5 to shea moisture is like from one spectrum to the other haha. How long does it take your hair to get wet in the shower? And how long to air dry? If your hair is difficult to take color, then it's low. But if it takes it well but then loses it quickly then it's high. Seems like you might be low-normal but honestly I'd have to touch your hair for myself to tell. I find anything from SheaM has a tendency to build up so that maybe why it felt dry after while, you have to cleanse more often with it. Maybe try the lighter rinse out as a leave-in, top with the Curl Milk and then the Eco and see how that goes.
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Lol, yeah going from vo5 to shea moisture is like from one spectrum to the other haha. How long does it take your hair to get wet in the shower? And how long to air dry? If your hair is difficult to take color, then it's low. But if it takes it well but then loses it quickly then it's high. Seems like you might be low-normal but honestly I'd have to touch your hair for myself to tell. I find anything from SheaM has a tendency to build up so that maybe why it felt dry after while, you have to cleanse more often with it. Maybe try the lighter rinse out as a leave-in, top with the Curl Milk and then the Eco and see how that goes.
Originally Posted by artemis513
Haha i thought so. :/ it takes a minute, i put it under the water and have to leave it up and separate it some to make sure it all gets wet, if i just stand and wait it's probably take anywhere between 45 seconds and a minute for the water to start making it's way and getting all my hair wet. And it actually drys relatively quick. It'll be dry within an hour or two. My roots may still be damp or wet. All the way dry in 2 1/2 hours or so. The eco styler makes it take longer to dry. But everytime i wash, which is every 2 days normally, i shampoo with Shea moisture curl enhancing shampoo. Idk if that's a good one or not. But it makes my hair feel decent. I'll try that though, and see how it works. I just wanna find a use for the SM smoothie. Since it's still practically new. But i think knowing my properties would be beneficial to figure all this out.

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And my roots take color well, the bottom does too but like okay, i tried to dye it lighter brown and the top got a little lighter, but the rest got darker. And then it rinsed out quickly, like it faded quick. And i was back to my original color.

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Are your hair strands fine, medium, or coarse? Also the longer hair is older so it will be more porous. So your hair might start growing out being low-normal and then over time (going down the hair shaft) it becomes more normal-high towards the ends. I would call it normal for general purposes.

[edit]Btw, when was the last time you did a PT?

You can use the smoothie just use less, focus it on the mid-length & ends. The SM shampoo may be ok for frequent use but it won't completely clean everything off. You'll need a stronger low poo (not necessarily a sulfate or clarifying shampoo) every so often to take care of build up. Like for example, I like to use ABBA pure moisture once a month even though I use CJ Daily fix 1-2x/week. In the winter when I use richer products I low-poo 2x/month.
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Last edited by artemis513; 09-22-2012 at 03:14 PM.
These two YT videos show a girl using the smoothie and what products she uses. I think based on how you describe your hair and goals, maybe it can help you.

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Are your hair strands fine, medium, or coarse? Also the longer hair is older so it will be more porous. So your hair might start growing out being low-normal and then over time (going down the hair shaft) it becomes more normal-high towards the ends. I would call it normal for general purposes.

You can use the smoothie just use less, focus it on the mid-length & ends. The SM shampoo may be ok for frequent use but it won't completely clean everything off. You'll need a stronger low poo (not necessarily a sulfate or clarifying shampoo) every so often to take care of build up. Like for example, I like to use ABBA pure moisture once a month even though I use CJ Daily fix 1-2x/week. In the winter when I use richer products I low-poo 2x/month.
Originally Posted by artemis513
Would the loreal smoothing shampoo be considered a stronger one? And when i hold a strand of hair, its pretty evident, its not "barely there" but im not sure its course either. Probably medium. I have a lot of hair. But when its wet, it doesnt look like it. Idk if thats relevant but just wanted to be sure and put that out there.

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These two YT videos show a girl using the smoothie and what products she uses. I think based on how you describe your hair and goals, maybe it can help you.

Update Series: Curly Hair Care Regimen - YouTube

Update Series: Curly Hairstyling/Wash n' Go Tutorial - YouTube
Originally Posted by artemis513
Oh thank you, you're so helpful!

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I put a few drops of oil on dry hair the night before I shampoo. I alternate between Dr. Hauschka's Neem Hair Oil and argan oil. Coconut oil makes me hair frizzy, so I only use it in a conditioner once a week.
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Are your hair strands fine, medium, or coarse? Also the longer hair is older so it will be more porous. So your hair might start growing out being low-normal and then over time (going down the hair shaft) it becomes more normal-high towards the ends. I would call it normal for general purposes.

You can use the smoothie just use less, focus it on the mid-length & ends. The SM shampoo may be ok for frequent use but it won't completely clean everything off. You'll need a stronger low poo (not necessarily a sulfate or clarifying shampoo) every so often to take care of build up. Like for example, I like to use ABBA pure moisture once a month even though I use CJ Daily fix 1-2x/week. In the winter when I use richer products I low-poo 2x/month.
Originally Posted by artemis513
Would the loreal smoothing shampoo be considered a stronger one? And when i hold a strand of hair, its pretty evident, its not "barely there" but im not sure its course either. Probably medium. I have a lot of hair. But when its wet, it doesnt look like it. Idk if thats relevant but just wanted to be sure and put that out there.

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Originally Posted by DepressedCurls
Yep, I'd say medium too. Medium strands, normal porosity, thick density. Your regimen should be pretty basic. Don't try to complicate it, basic can be a good thing :-)

I am going to look up that shampoo so I can see the ingredients and let you know...Wait, what's the whole name of it? There's more than one smoothing shampoo
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