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Hair care is done by things like coarse vs fine and porosity. To a lesser extent, numerical type plays a role. I use 'black' products. Are they not supposed to work on me because I'm White with type 3 hair? There are Black type 4s who use 'white' products. Being shunted into product based on race or ethnicity isn't going to necessarily give you the best hair care options.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I don't think anyone should base their product use on what is marketed towards their race. But I do believe that people of the same ethnic background have similar hair properties. Just being "white" is not even close to specific enough. It has to do with the actual DNA. I agree, a fully "white" 3B would not have the same exact properties as a different ethnicity 3B. That was my point.
Mulatto, Long 3B Hair
Hair care is done by things like coarse vs fine and porosity. To a lesser extent, numerical type plays a role. I use 'black' products. Are they not supposed to work on me because I'm White with type 3 hair? There are Black type 4s who use 'white' products. Being shunted into product based on race or ethnicity isn't going to necessarily give you the best hair care options.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
ITA, your hair properties are what determines what is best for hair, not ethnicity. Which is why there is no such thing as "bi-racial hair".
Originally Posted by juanab
Agreed. I get the biggest eye-roll when I see that phrase. Just stop.
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Med/Coarse, porous curly.
ITA, your hair properties are what determines what is best for hair, not ethnicity. Which is why there is no such thing as "bi-racial hair".
Originally Posted by juanab
I'd have to disagree with this, however.
Mulatto, Long 3B Hair
Hair care is done by things like coarse vs fine and porosity. To a lesser extent, numerical type plays a role. I use 'black' products. Are they not supposed to work on me because I'm White with type 3 hair? There are Black type 4s who use 'white' products. Being shunted into product based on race or ethnicity isn't going to necessarily give you the best hair care options.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I don't think anyone should base their product use on what is marketed towards their race. But I do believe that people of the same ethnic background have similar hair properties. Just being "white" is not even close to specific enough. It has to do with the actual DNA. I agree, a fully "white" 3B would not have the same exact properties as a different ethnicity 3B. That was my point.
Originally Posted by InaEva
Sure they can. There are Black 3b's with my hair properties.
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Med/Coarse, porous curly.
ITA, your hair properties are what determines what is best for hair, not ethnicity. Which is why there is no such thing as "bi-racial hair".
Originally Posted by juanab
I'd have to disagree with this, however.
Originally Posted by InaEva
That's fine. We agree to disagree.
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texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
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Hair care is done by things like coarse vs fine and porosity. To a lesser extent, numerical type plays a role. I use 'black' products. Are they not supposed to work on me because I'm White with type 3 hair? There are Black type 4s who use 'white' products. Being shunted into product based on race or ethnicity isn't going to necessarily give you the best hair care options.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls

To second this- there is a (caucasian) 2c wavy who has commented that she gets most of her best product suggestions on the 4a/4b forums, rather than on the 2s forum because many of the posters on the 2s forum have very different hair properties than she does.

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3a/f/iii
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: DevaCare One Condition, SS Caitlin's Conditioner, Mop Top Daily Conditioner
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse, Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
Sure they can. There are Black 3b's with my hair properties.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
It has to do with the properties of your DNA.
Mulatto, Long 3B Hair
Hair genes and color genes aren't on the same gene. Seriously. You're getting nowhere fast with that argument. Bi-racial hair isn't some Special Snowflake category of hair because it doesn't exist.
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Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Go back at look at the OP's post. No mention of ethnicity. Why? Because it has nothing to do with your hair properties and choosing the correct products for your hair.
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texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
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Hair genes and color genes aren't on the same gene. Seriously. You're getting nowhere fast with that argument. Bi-racial hair isn't some Special Snowflake category of hair because it doesn't exist.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Ethnicity is not defined by the color of your skin or hair for that matter. It has to do with your entire genetic makeup & similar physical traits from humans in each region.
Mulatto, Long 3B Hair
Hair genes and color genes aren't on the same gene. Seriously. You're getting nowhere fast with that argument. Bi-racial hair isn't some Special Snowflake category of hair because it doesn't exist.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Ethnicity is not defined by the color of your skin or hair for that matter. It has to do with your entire genetic makeup & similar physical traits from humans in each region.
Originally Posted by InaEva
Biracial hair still goes by hair properties: porosity, thickness, density, etc. Are those determined by genes? Sure. They're also determined by things like whether you color your hair or not. I agree with RedCelticCurls This ethinicity stuff is pretty pointless since there are other factors that demystify the whole deal.

Sorry for the board guano.
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|| 3b; normal porosity; fine/normal texture || CG since Feb 2010 || SD/dandruff prone

Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month Leave-in OH Hair Dew Cheapie Conditioner Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR Style AOMMJ Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers SD treatment H&S Clinical Strength

My turn!

POROSITY:
low
medium{*}
high

THICKNESS:
thick/coarse strands
medium strands{*}
thin/fine strands

DENSITY:
high density/lots of hair
normal density/normal amount of hair{*}
low density/lower amount of hair

CURL TYPE:
2a
2b
2c
3a{*}
3b{*}
3c{*}
4a
4b
4c

SENSITIVITIES/DISLIKES:
protein
glycerin
silicones{*}
sulfates
oils/butters{*} it depends on the type.

LIKES/PRODUCT EXPECTATIONS:
protein{*} though my hair can be finicky
glycerin{*}
frizz control{*}
volume
definition
curl enhancement{*}
moisture{*}
organic/all natural{*} sometimes

PRICES:
only drugstore products{*}
$15 at most for a product{*}
salon{*}
boutique{*}
anything that works{*}
(This really just depend on my pocketbook!)
Curly and PROUD!!!

My hair has a mix of low/med/high porosity, and it's medium textured (some are still fine, though!)

CG since Sept. 2011
Cowash: Vo5/Suave Naturals/Tresemme Naturals*
RO/LI: GVPCB*, Tresemme Naturals*
Low-poo: Shea Moisture Moisture Retention
Stylers: KCKT*, Coconut Oil, Olive Oil, Grapeseed Oil, Honey*

* represents my HGs!!! Finally!!!
Hair care is done by things like coarse vs fine and porosity. To a lesser extent, numerical type plays a role. I use 'black' products. Are they not supposed to work on me because I'm White with type 3 hair? There are Black type 4s who use 'white' products. Being shunted into product based on race or ethnicity isn't going to necessarily give you the best hair care options.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
ITA, your hair properties are what determines what is best for hair, not ethnicity. Which is why there is no such thing as "bi-racial hair".
Originally Posted by juanab
Agreed. I get the biggest eye-roll when I see that phrase. Just stop.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
+ one million.

As mentioned everyone is entitled to an opinion. my opinion is hair doesn't have an ethnicity or race and it is COMPLETELY POINTLESS to tell us this information when describing a hair problem or issue. Some people don't agree. To each his own but I think there is a reason some thread questiond get fewer replies.

Anyway, I believe the point of this thread is to help people find products that might work for them. I hope we can get back on topic. Great thread idea. I think I almost found my match.
I just have to chime in and say that ethnicity is really not that important here. So, I have two sisters..we all have the same mother and father. All three of us have different hair properties....so now what's the argument on ethinicity being important here?

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3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
hemp oil, jojoba oil
www.naturesnectars.net
I just have to chime in and say that ethnicity is really not that important here. So, I have two sisters..we all have the same mother and father. All three of us have different hair properties....so now what's the argument on ethinicity being important here?

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Originally Posted by kurlygurly
It depends on what your ethnic background is. If you're mixed with more than one thing, then that changes the possible outcomes of the offspring.
Mulatto, Long 3B Hair
Oook...well I have curly 3a hair that is very dense/thin! My sister also has thin hair but she has wavy hair, my brother has very thick quinky hair lol. My parents have very thick hair, which my mom has very curly hair in the 4s. So how are our hair all different if genes are the same?? My products also would never work for my mom or sister like it works for me...we tried it! And were all 100% puertorican same parent same genes......?
2C-3A, FINE TEXTURE, NORMAL POROSITY, NORMAL ELASTICITY
(according to my hair analysis) [thought it was worst!]

Cowash: Suave Naturals
RO: Ion Effective Care, GVPCB
PT/DT: IAGIRL's PT, One n' Only Argan Hydrating Mask
LI: Cure Care, GVPCB
Style:EXPERIMENTING STILL!!! Trying: HE mousses,.la sports gel,
Mixed Chicks, SSCEJ, Ecostyler Krystal, KCCC
I just have to chime in and say that ethnicity is really not that important here. So, I have two sisters..we all have the same mother and father. All three of us have different hair properties....so now what's the argument on ethinicity being important here?

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Originally Posted by kurlygurly
It depends on what your ethnic background is. If you're mixed with more than one thing, then that changes the possible outcomes of the offspring.
Originally Posted by InaEva
Multiple curl types are pretty common in people not mixed-race. Hair is hair. You don't get to have Special Snowflake hair for being mixed race. It'll whittle down to Karen.
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Med/Coarse, porous curly.
@Mom2lyse20
I'm sure InaEva will say that Puerto Rican is not a pure ethnicity which is true. Being Puerto Rican is a combination of ethnic mixtures. Pure groups are African, Asian and Anglo. Other groups come from those.

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3B Live Curly Live Free Analysis: Texture = Medium Porosity = Normal Elasticity = Normal
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3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
hemp oil, jojoba oil
www.naturesnectars.net

Last edited by kurlygurly; 10-01-2012 at 11:28 AM.
@InaEva
I think you've pretty much proven that ethnicity is really not an important factor here. There is so much mixture in genes of different backgrounds in the population that going by ethnicity will get you nowhere or not too far. The majority of us have a mixture of more than one pure race.....even if you're unaware of it. That's why someone saying they're from ethnicity-A won't help much if someone from ethnicity-B also has that A's properties. Anyway, I was really digging this thread but it's going in the wrong direction. Lets get back on board.

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3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
hemp oil, jojoba oil
www.naturesnectars.net

Last edited by kurlygurly; 10-01-2012 at 11:30 AM.
I was really digging this thread but it's going in the wrong direction. Lets get back on board.
Originally Posted by kurlygurly
Agree! I'm really new to this still, so I don't know much about products that work for me. Hopefully I run across some more 2A's that have tips!

POROSITY:
medium.. I think???


THICKNESS:
thin/fine strands


DENSITY:
normal density/normal amount of hair

CURL TYPE:
2a
2b (potential/on a reeeeally good day)


SENSITIVITIES/DISLIKES:
silicones
sulfates
(haven't tried anything else yet so don't know)


LIKES/PRODUCT EXPECTATIONS:
volume
definition
curl enhancement
moisture



PRICES:
only drugstore products
I would like to add a category here - what about homemade!

Last edited by tr3kkie9rl; 10-03-2012 at 09:37 AM. Reason: editing my porosity... still not sure though!

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