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10-01-2012, 10:32 AM
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#41
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,965
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The float test is a very poor indicator of porosity. I can get my hair to float for days, yet my hair is high porosity.
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Kiva! Microfinance works.
Med/Coarse, porous curly.
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10-01-2012, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 61
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It depends on how you look at it. If everybody here came from a multi-ethnic background, ethnicity wouldn't help on this forum given the fact that nobody really has the exact same mixture. However, if you look at it in a broad point of view, ethnicity has more to do with physical similarities than limiting your options by general hair properties alone. Just because your hair properties are the same on Naturally Curly's scale, doesn't mean your hair is just as similar as someone who has a more similar genetic background as you with the same hair properties.
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Mulatto, Long 3B Hair
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10-01-2012, 11:06 AM
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#43
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,965
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Oooooh, boy.
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Kiva! Microfinance works.
Med/Coarse, porous curly.
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10-01-2012, 11:09 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 61
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I'm not sure what you mean by "special snowflake." I don't believe I ever mentioned anything of the sort.
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Mulatto, Long 3B Hair
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10-01-2012, 11:12 AM
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#45
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,965
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It's not an unusual phenomenon. People think their hair grade is special or different because of their racial make-up. That attitude had been coined on the boards as Special Snowflake Syndrome. Hair is hair. Properties are properties. Race makes no difference in what your hair needs.
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Kiva! Microfinance works.
Med/Coarse, porous curly.
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10-01-2012, 11:31 AM
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#46
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 43
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POROSITY:
low
medium**
high
THICKNESS:
thick/coarse strands**
medium strands**
thin/fine strands
DENSITY:
high density/lots of hair
normal density/normal amount of hair**
low density/lower amount of hair
CURL TYPE:
2a
2b
2c
3a
3b
3c**
4a**
4b
4c
SENSITIVITIES/DISLIKES:
protein
glycerin**
silicones**
sulfates**
oils/butters
LIKES/PRODUCT EXPECTATIONS:
protein
glycerin
frizz control**
volume
definition**
curl enhancement
moisture** <= Most Important
organic/all natural
PRICES:
only drugstore products
$15 at most for a product
salon
boutique
anything that works**
What do we do when we find our match? Should we pm them?
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10-01-2012, 12:04 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,282
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POROSITY:
low
medium*
high
THICKNESS:
thick/coarse strands
medium strands*
thin/fine strands
DENSITY:
high density/lots of hair
normal density/normal amount of hair*
low density/lower amount of hair
CURL TYPE:
2a
2b
2c
3a
3b
3c
4a*
4b*
4c
SENSITIVITIES/DISLIKES:
protein
glycerin
silicones*
sulfates*
oils/butters
LIKES/PRODUCT EXPECTATIONS:
protein
glycerin*
frizz control
volume
definition*
curl enhancement
moisture*
organic/all natural*
PRICES:
only drugstore products
$15 at most for a product
salon
boutique
anything that works*
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BC'ed: 03-29-11
Last Relaxer: July 2010
Mod CG
texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal, co-wash - tresemme naturals moisture, jessicurls cleansing cream, leave-in - tresemme naturals moisture, gel - SM souffle, mop top anti- frizz light hold gel, vatika oil, QB BRBC, shealoe butter, mango butter
Last edited by juanab; 10-01-2012 at 05:57 PM.
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10-01-2012, 12:37 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 45
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porosity?
Hmmm well maybe I should rethink my whole strategy then! Is there a better way to tell what your porosity level is? Also, my hair is strawberry blondish... used to be very red but I think years of abuse have faded and dulled it  any tips from a fellow redhead? Does hair color make any difference (not trying to stir the pot here ... I'm genuinely not sure lol)
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10-01-2012, 12:42 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,965
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I'm naturally a dishwater blonde. I color it red.
Natural reds fade with age, though. Sunlight can lighten the ends.
For porosity, you can run you finger up a loose strand of hair from tip to root. Non porous hair will feel more slippery, and a porous one can feel quite bumpy.
Also, drying time with product free hair is a good indicator. My product free hair can be dry in about two hours, which is pretty fast. Non porous hair can take 12-24 hours to be totally dry.
Porous hair can be moisturized, but it has a hard time with moisture retention. Non porous hair can retain moisture, but it can be hard to actually Moisturize.
Porous hair tends to show weather and humidity changes more dramatically than non porous hair. Not that you can't see this with non-porous hair, but you *really* notice it with porous hair.
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Kiva! Microfinance works.
Med/Coarse, porous curly.
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10-01-2012, 12:46 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,965
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Oh, and natural reds tend to run coarse from what I've read, but there are many fine haired redheads out there. Hair color and thickness trends don't always work. Fine, blonde hair is stereotypical, yet there are coarse haired blondes, too.
The redheads in my family have what my sister calls 'boy hair'. Coarse strand that don't feel silky. I can hear my hair when I rub it. It's crinkly.
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Kiva! Microfinance works.
Med/Coarse, porous curly.
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10-01-2012, 12:48 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 548
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Hi tr3kkie9rl  - hair color is not really an indicator of porosity, but hair that is dameged (through coloring, heat, etc.) is usually higher porosity. The easiest way to know your porosity is probably to get the hair analysis through the live curly live free site. However, if you don't want to spend the $$, there are some things you can check at home. First, hold a single strand of hair by the end, and then run your thumb and first finger of your other hand up the strand to the root. If the hair feels smooth and slippery, that's an indicator of low porosity. If it feels mostly smooth with some bumps, it's likely normal porosity. If your fingers feel like they keep "catching" on your hair, or it feels very rough, that's an indicator of high porosity. Another indicator of porosity is how well your hair aborbs products and how fast it dries. If you have low porosity hair, it takes longer to get wet/absorb moisture and longer to dry (I've seen posts from low porosity curlies stating it can take 8-9 hours for their hair to air dry), and often times people will complain of products "sitting" on top of their hair. High porosity hair aborbs products and moisture quickly, and will also dry out quickly.
HTH!
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2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?) fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate
My favorite brands are Curl Junkie, Darcy's Botanicals, As I Am, Curly Kinks and Shea Moisture. Also love sealing with oil and styling with jelly products.
CG since 12/29/2011
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10-01-2012, 12:49 PM
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#52
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 548
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redcelticcurls - just saw you posted while I was still typing mine  Sorry for the duplicate information, lol!
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2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?) fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate
My favorite brands are Curl Junkie, Darcy's Botanicals, As I Am, Curly Kinks and Shea Moisture. Also love sealing with oil and styling with jelly products.
CG since 12/29/2011
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10-01-2012, 12:51 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 440
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POROSITY:
low
medium*
high
THICKNESS:
thick/coarse strands
medium strands
thin/fine strands*
DENSITY:
high density/lots of hair
normal density/normal amount of hair*
low density/lower amount of hair
CURL TYPE:
2a
2b
2c
3a
3b*
3c
4a
4b
4c
SENSITIVITIES/DISLIKES:
proteins* (only in rinse outs, no hydrolyzed varieties?)
glycerin* (only in rinse outs)
silicones*
sulfates*
oils/butters* (LOVES fruit oils! Light butters only in DC's)
LIKES/PRODUCT EXPECTATIONS:
protein
glycerin
frizz control*
volume
definition
curl enhancement
moisture*
organic/all natural*
PRICES:
only drugstore products
$15 at most for a product
salon
boutique
anything that works*
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3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)
"To much is given, much is expected"
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10-01-2012, 12:56 PM
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#54
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 548
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Hi Nvmbrcurlss - you might be my hair twin  (if only my curls were that tight, sigh) I was just wondering if the As I Am no-poo you use is the coconut co-wash, and how you like it since your hair is fine? I'm interested in trying it and wondering if it does a good job of cleansing (my hair gets easily weighed down on top at the roots if I just straight conditioner wash, so I usually prefer cleansing conditioners like CJDF). TIA!
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2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?) fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate
My favorite brands are Curl Junkie, Darcy's Botanicals, As I Am, Curly Kinks and Shea Moisture. Also love sealing with oil and styling with jelly products.
CG since 12/29/2011
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10-01-2012, 01:02 PM
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#55
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 440
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Kurlygurly??? We may b twins! How do I " pm"?.......
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3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)
"To much is given, much is expected"
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10-01-2012, 01:04 PM
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#56
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 440
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I thought so too awhile back jkells! ( I am so excited that I thought an affectionate nickname might b right for the occasion... Hehe)  but u seemed more seasoned than I so I didn't pursue...
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3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)
"To much is given, much is expected"
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10-01-2012, 01:05 PM
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#57
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 440
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But... I love the as I am. The coconut co-wash has been a real treat!
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3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)
"To much is given, much is expected"
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10-01-2012, 01:07 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 440
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I also have no root curl. The cowash is has not been too heavy and it cleans without stripping, which sounds cliche, but this is the only cleanser that seems to provide this for me...
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3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)
"To much is given, much is expected"
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10-01-2012, 01:13 PM
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#59
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 440
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Oh. And the smell is divine. I can also wide tooth comb through all my hair to detangle with it. Sorry for so many posts I am just so excited!
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3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)
"To much is given, much is expected"
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10-01-2012, 01:17 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 548
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LOL! You are too funny  Definitely swaying me to try the AIA co-wash though  I just sent you a PM too.
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2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?) fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate
My favorite brands are Curl Junkie, Darcy's Botanicals, As I Am, Curly Kinks and Shea Moisture. Also love sealing with oil and styling with jelly products.
CG since 12/29/2011
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