Is there any curl creme that defines your hair as well as a gel?

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Ok...I caved and bought the Alba Botanica Soft Styling Cream! Haha
It's drying right now, and I'll comment as soon as I get results(:
Originally Posted by dresdendoll
haha I knew you would! Hopefully it works really well for you, because it's reasonably priced and available locally.

Looking forward to an exhaustive review!
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi
2c/3a, BSL, medium, low porosity
Low-poo: Bobeam and CV poo bars; Acure Argan Oil & Stem Cell
Conditioner: Acure Argan Oil & Stem Cell; Desert Essence Shea
Stylers: Sweet Curls Elixir Curl Cream; SM CES
PT: BASK Whiskey Soak
Alba Botanica Soft Curl Cream gave me huge, clumpy, spirally ringlets. I love the style it gave me! However, my hair doesn't feel very soft and actually a little bit dry. I looked at the ingredients and it looked fine, but then I saw the description and it said that it contained "moringa micro-proteins." My hates hates protein, but this product is really nice, so I hope it wasn't this cream that caused the dryness. I'll try it a few times more
2c/2b with some 2a, coarse, dense, thick, low porosity
Growing out a CL bob. Currently at APL.
CG again as of 7/20/12


Cleanser: BRÖÖ Smoothing I.P.A. Shampoo
RO: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

all-natural products, light moisture, humectants, argan oil
silk protein, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils/products, cowashing
Thank you everyone for replying! I haven't responded sooner because I went back to a different styling method which is working really well for me (for the first day). Nothing seems to work well for the 2nd day - I'm still trying to figure that out.

I went back to the super soaker method and got terrific results, so now I'm using both a curl creme and gel. I'm trying different combos.

I encourage anyone who hasn't tried it to give it a shot. You need a Denman brush or a clone of that type brush. You can check out the super soaker thread for details.

Thanks again and good luck everyone. Also, if anyone has any tips for 2nd day (I use a satin pillowcase) that maybe hasn't been written about a lot, post them please!
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Experimenting with cones & sulfates while the dews are high.
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
Every day is a gift
curlypearl -- from your siggie it says your hair is highly porous. maybe if you sealed it then you would get better 2nd day hair?
i rarely do 2nd day hair, but since i've been sealing my hair my hair is pretty good the following morning, so i could.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
rbb - thank you so much! I'm really struggling with the 2nd day issue.

At what point in your styling do you seal your hair, how much oil do you use and where on your hair do you put it?

I had tried using some oil a way back and I thought it was making my hair stringy. Maybe I used too much or put it on at the wrong stage?

I would certainly try it again - please let me know your technique! Thanks a lot.
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Experimenting with cones & sulfates while the dews are high.
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
Every day is a gift
rbb - thank you so much! I'm really struggling with the 2nd day issue.

At what point in your styling do you seal your hair, how much oil do you use and where on your hair do you put it?

I had tried using some oil a way back and I thought it was making my hair stringy. Maybe I used too much or put it on at the wrong stage?

I would certainly try it again - please let me know your technique! Thanks a lot.
Originally Posted by curlypearl
here's what i've been doing for the last 3, 4 weeks. i don't use oils, my hair hated them, took days to wash it all out. i use emollient butters listed in my siggie. the one that has been working so very well for me and i am exclusively using now is jane carter nourish & shine. you can get it on ground, i buy it at wholefoods.
when i lowpoo, after i put in leave in and possibly a styler (unless it is a styling leave in), then i blot excess water from my hair, and then flip head upside down and scrunch in some jc n&s. flip my head up and scrunch in more jc n&s. let it air dry.
the days i cowash i don't seal whole head, i wait and see and as my hair is drying i add jc n&s where it seems to need it. for my hair, the 'usual' spots are right along my face, the sides. so i do pat some in after i blot my hair, but it is when i 'set' my hair up then i pat some in right along the hairline around my face. as it dries there are usually spots on my top left side that seem to need it, so i pat it in there. and if there are any others as it is drying, i do same.
i've been getting lots of compliments on my hair. jc n&s really makes it shine and it does retain the moisture.
HTH
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
Glad you found a solution! Super Soaker is a really great technique(:

Oh, I tried the Alba Botanica Soft Style Cream again, and my hair isn't dry at all! Now it's filled with soft curls and waves! Very clumpy. I don't need to use a lot, either. I also like how the drying time isn't too long. Good product!
2c/2b with some 2a, coarse, dense, thick, low porosity
Growing out a CL bob. Currently at APL.
CG again as of 7/20/12


Cleanser: BRÖÖ Smoothing I.P.A. Shampoo
RO: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

all-natural products, light moisture, humectants, argan oil
silk protein, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils/products, cowashing
RBB, I actually have CCCC but I found it too rich in warmer weather. It might be good in winter, but since Marsha recommended the honey butta - that's a great recommendation! She knows her stuff.

Tena, my hair is also a little coarser and considerably curlier in the back. Another hair twin - you, me and MirCurls - we are curly triplets!

Ms. Naturally Coily - thanks for the suggestion! I've never tried a "milk" Also, never tried anything with Shea Moisture, but it gets so many good reviews.

Dresdendoll, another tempting product! Darcy's Botanicals also gets great reviews. Sigh - I want everything.

Kinky RN - are you really an RN? Slight guano - but terrific to have an RN on our board (if you are one). I haven't ever seen the Not your Mother's - have to check that out also.

Barcemadis - another terrific suggestion. If I could get soft touchable curls for more than one day, I'd be in heaven.

Yossarian, thanks for the links! Everyone - I am like a kid with a box of new candies - so many great products to try. One by one....until I hit the jackpot.
Originally Posted by curlypearl
Actually I am a RN. That not your mothers has me in love with my curls!! And the price is right too.
Curls Unleashed Curl Creme defines curls with a soft hold. That's what I use when I just want a soft, curly do without the finisher curl jelly
This one (which is specially good for dyed hair) or the one for curly hair from the same brand (teal bottle)...sorry I couldn't find a link to specify (I'm not from USA). I think they're easily found though..and not expensive.

ETA: L'oreal products have always been pretty good for me, their leave-ins are really nice, I hope you check them out, regardless of being the exact one I'm refering.

Last edited by Lianna; 10-16-2012 at 11:08 AM.
I have 4a hair with some 3c. My trick for 2nd day hair is as follows:
Sleep with a satin bonnet or on a satin pillow

Use a water spray bottle or get in shower and wet hair till it s saturated. If u use water spray, wait 1-2 minutes to let water saturate hair. As u do, flattened curls will start to swell almost to their first day state. Do not touch. Just shake ur hair a few times.

Also my 2 best curl definers are Kinky Curly Custard (with the knot leave in underneath) and Hawaiian Silky Curl Activator. One is super $ and the other is super cheap ($4-$5) but they give the same curl definition and shine. Difference though is that u don't really need a leave in if u use the Hawaiian product. Plus your hair is not crunchy at all. But I find that with KC Custard, a little goes a long way, and the crunchiness is relatively minimal. Go heavier on the knot leave in and longer on the custard.
Correction: Lighter on the custard

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