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Myrna 10-06-2012 05:22 PM

'Hair droop" in colder weather now!
 
Arrghh! just as I figured out my combo, the weather got cold, and now my hair is soft and softly falling. I had been using Biolage styling gel under Deva styling foam. Any suggestions? do I need a stronger gel or a stronger mousse?

Ml001 10-06-2012 05:28 PM

I don't have advice but I have the same issue here. *sigh*

Myrna 10-06-2012 05:34 PM

Experts! please let us hear from you! our curls are dropping like flies!

redcelticcurls 10-06-2012 05:40 PM

You need to readjust your protein moisture balance with the change of seasons.

Jas76 10-06-2012 06:33 PM

Yeah, I have to up the LI and oil in the winter.

Just when you get it all figured out!! Lol

Myrna 10-06-2012 06:49 PM

I used a deep conditioner today and it made no difference.

claudine19 10-06-2012 06:51 PM

I let my freak flag fly and accept the droop.

CurlyInMemphis 10-06-2012 07:02 PM

I have the same problem. Today my curls were so blah....(rain and 57)...yesterday (sunny and 80) they rocked.

Do you add more moisture to your hair in the winter? Or less?

Ml001 10-06-2012 07:07 PM

I used AVG (the only 'protein' my hair tolerates) today and an extra conditioning yesterday with very little improvement. I will keep in mind some of that may change, though. (It is only going to get colder and dryer from here lol) I will up the LI, too.

I've been no poo for over a year but only recently learned hair properties and it made a huge difference. My hair changed last fall/winter, too, but I just didn't know what to even look for, or to connect it to humidity/dew point yada yada.

I suspect my hair does not tolerate glycerin well. I also just recently began learning about dew points, humectants and anti-humectants. That seems like it could be part of the problem? Any advice from anyone regarding any of that? I know...so much of this is just personal and trial and error.

Helps to hear the issue is relatively normal, though! :)

Myrna 10-06-2012 08:15 PM

WAAAH!!

rbb 10-07-2012 07:53 AM

make sure glycerin is not at the top of the ingredient lists. i do use products with glycerin in winter, but it is in middle/bottom part of list, and it also depends on the formulation, enough butters/oils in product to compensate i guess.

i use heavier leave ins in lower dews and most days i seal it.

i don't use protein treatments often, but i use them less often in lower dews, hair needs more moisture then.

i guess what it is is that hair loses moisture to the drier air, so we have to compensate for that. for sure my hair is happier in mid to high dews!

Jas76 10-07-2012 12:14 PM

Oh yeah +1 in reducing glycerin and other humectants in the cold/low dews.

Not out completely, but i definitely cut back in my stylers.

Myrna 10-07-2012 12:17 PM

No glycerin here, ever.

redcelticcurls 10-07-2012 12:51 PM

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If I slack on the moisture in the winter, my hair goes from curly to wavy.

I went from this
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To this (my normal winter pattern)

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After one use of Lustrasilk

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If you don't keep up with moisture in low dews, the curls will fall.

Since I'm porous, sealing helps me too. It helps reduce the environmental effect.

Myrna 10-07-2012 04:14 PM

I think I am having a slightly different issue here than many of you who have so kindly responded. My curls seem to need a stronger product. The crunch is gone. Yes, the crunch is gone. Now, I know some of you will say, "What's t he problem?" but I like a bit of crunch to maintain my curls, and to give them some body. So: where did the crunch go , and what do I do to get it back??

Ml001 10-07-2012 07:10 PM

I thinks it's the same basic issue. We need to adjust our product for the season.

Check out these links. Thy are product specific but information is included that I think would apply to all products.

http://www.frizzoff.com/Articles.aspx?Id=299

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...cq-winter.html

My hair is nicer today. I did that aloe as I mentioned above. I also did a longer steam cap in the shower and then I used a lot more LI. I did not style at all and it has more wave than it did the past couple of days with stylers so I have no doubt it would be back to how I want it had I scrunched well and gelled. Maybe even better. So, a big thank you from me to the responders. :)

Myrna - hopefully you will get your adjustments figured out, too, so you can your crunch back. :)

Curlsnswirls 10-07-2012 08:29 PM

Maybe try a tad of stronger holding gel? Or another gel altogether. Hopefully you will find something that works soon. I ordered some of the foam myself....I will report back if/when I find a combo that works.

Myrna 10-07-2012 09:07 PM

I notice that Pantene's curly mousse is stronger holding. I may try that tomorrow with my biotera gel - I never used that particular mousse with ANYTHING because in the summer, it gave me plenty of crunch - too much in fact - on its own. But that may be different now...

SunshineGrrl 10-07-2012 11:18 PM

Myrna, have you tried AG Gel/Mousse or Mousse/Gel, I forget what order the name is actually in? That stuff is pimp for me all year round and my dew points are consistently low as I live in a desert. It gives you hold like a gel but volume like a mousse. Pricey, but I don't think any more so than the Deva stuff and it lasts me a really long time.

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Myrna 10-08-2012 07:20 AM

HI, SunshineGirl, I have heard a lot about AG products here. I have not seen them where I live, although I have not looked in Trade Secrets in the mall. I dont mind paying the price for a good product that works - all those cheap ones that dont work add up as well. That is why I dont mind the Deva Foam - it worked. Ill check out the AG mousse on the products review. Thanks!


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