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Old 10-16-2012, 06:57 AM   #1
 
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Question Cutting long layers and thinning out hair?

Hey everyone,
i have really thick, long curly hair, and i'm having a really hard time controlling it. I have to use a lot of products to let it look nice, but since i live in holland and have to cycle to school everyday, it get's frizzy and puffy again quickly. Now i've done some research, and found that long layers could be the answer to my problem. The only thing is that i'm afraid that the shorter layers will get even thicker when i cut them, so i thought about thinning out my hair on the bottom. But i read that when it grows out again, it looks awful.
And i also dyed my hair so would thinning be really bad for it?

Any tips on what i should do to tame my hair?
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:17 AM   #2
 
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I've always had layers on the bottom, whether my hair is short or long. It just looks better in wavy and curly hair in my opinion. You don't need layers all over the place, just on the bottom will make your hair look less thick, if that's all you want.

Thinning isn't the same as layers though. You don't have control of where your ends are with thinning, because it's so random. And I heard it can cause split ends with all the rubbing, most people I talked to didn't like it.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:56 AM   #3
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i agree with the long layers, they will help. and i agree with not thinning out your hair, it will make it worse.

have you tried sealing after you apply your products? either oils or emollient butters??
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:39 AM   #4
 
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Whatever you do, never get it thinned out and make sure to keep an eye on your stylist for sneaking those thinning shears in your hair. When you thin your hair you're cutting random pieces throughout your hair just like the top poster said. It usually looks great out of the salon, but once your hair starts growing out again you get these random short pieces that like to stick out and makes your hair look even more poofy. Thinning is great for people with straight hair that is very thick, but not textured hair in my opinion.

I get layers, it helps my hair to lie down flatter. I know lots of people love volume and crave it but I have too much in the wrong places. Layering helps with that. If you don't like the look of layers you can always get it "under layered". I've done that before too except thats only good if you wear your hair down most of the time. You can ask that they leave enough underneath for you to be able to put in a ponytail, but it can make styling harder for when you wear your hair put up. I like it though because it gives your hair the look of being one length on top, but underneath is where it's shorter. It also helps the hair to lie flatter and helps with volume on the bottom of your hair.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:01 AM   #5
 
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thanks for your reactions! i think i'm gonna get the long layers. still just a little bit afraid that it will increase my volume even more, which is the last thing i want.

@ rbb, i used oils before but they made my hair very greasy, so right now i am using a combination of this moisturizer and the beautiful ends creme from herbal essences, but it get's frizzy during the day anyway

@ txwvy32 what do you mean by under layered? do they like only layer the lower section of your hair?
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:13 AM   #6
 
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i used oils before but they made my hair very greasy
Have you tried using VERY little? Like 3 drops? Sometimes doing that on damp hair makes all the difference too, it does on mine.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:46 AM   #7
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oils made my hair greasy, too, even tho i barely used any. so now i used emollient butters, been using jane carter nourish & shine for the past several weeks with great success.

the layers will not make your hair bigger, it will even out the shape of your head. i think you will be pleased with long layers.
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@ txwvy32 what do you mean by under layered? do they like only layer the lower section of your hair?
Think of it like backward layering. You know how when they normally layer the top near your ears is shortest? Well in this case an underlayering would be the underside of your hair near the nape of your neck being the shortest. When I get mine underlayered I ask that the short layer go no higher than my shoulders ( that way I can still pin it up). Then the next layers are progressively longer until the top, which is the full back of your hair is the longest. It gives the illusion that your hair is all one length while helping it to lie down better and taking some of that bottom volume away.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:52 AM   #9
 
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OH NO NO NO!! I made a huge mistake by letting my new hairstylist t cut my hair shorter layers and thinning it... ( Long layers are okay and add some volume thou if they realy are lon enough )

My hair looked pretty much like a christmastree at the time. Horrible experience... It took a while to grow the layers look good again.
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hey everyone,

thank you all for your comments and advices, really appreciated it!

i wanted to let you know that i have cutted my hair in layers now, and i don't really know what to think about it yet. i think my shortest layers are a little too short, even though they're at shoulder length, it makes the hairs at the top of the short layers thicker and more puffy. it does takes a lot of the thickness on the back of my hair away though, which i'm really pleased with! next time i think i will still cut my hair in layers but cut the shortest layers a little longer.
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