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TangledMadness 10-31-2012 03:44 PM

Water wash only - Questions
 
I have given up on finding my HG conditioner (and God knows I've tried) so I washed my hair with water only today and my hair is so soft, but scalp feels so dirty which I know is expected since it takes a few weeks to get rid of the waxy feeling in the scalp.

My questions are: How many times per week should you wash your hair?
What do you do with dandruff/flakey scalp? I have dry hair so I'm not so worried about oily hair, I'm more worried about the waxy scalp and flakes. I heard ACV rinse helps? Any other advice is appreciated.
My last question is...What oils should you use, if any?

Thank you

Ericachristina 10-31-2012 06:10 PM

The amount you need to wash your hair and clean your scalp really depends on the individual. Some people can go days and even a week without washing their hair and others have to wash every day. I think you have to pay attention to what your hair needs. If you notice that you are getting build up and your hair feels limp and dirty then wash it. For me personally I cannot wash my hair with water only because although the water may be a natural moisturizer it does nothing to clean my hair. I also cannot co wash for weeks at a time without using shampoo, I have to use a shampoo at least once per week which is sulphate free to clean my scalp and hair and get off the product build up if any. You donít want your pores to clog by not washing thoroughly enough when you need to.

There are a lot of oils that help treat dandruff and dry scalp I know coconut oil is one on them. If you do use oil on your hair you will need to use a shampoo when you are ready to wash it out.




TangledMadness 11-09-2012 09:42 AM

I am so happy I tried this method!
My hair is so soft, curls are so smooth and defined, no flakes, no dry scalp and best of all: NO TANGLES!
My hair used to tangle constantly and it was hell!
WO has worked really good for me - it's still early but I can tell it works for me.
I recommend this to those with REALLY dry hair like I had.

I used to CO wash only and my hair was dry and tangly and it was the same with shampoo, it just didn't work for me, it made my hair worse and worse.
I have (had?) low porosity, protein sensitive hair and I tried everything. No protein, more protein, a balance - Nothing worked!
I tried steaming my hair, I tried ACV, I tried everything! I am so happy that WO worked.:occasion9:
I am going to carry on with WO until I feel I need a clarifying shampoo followed by a moisture conditioner and then continue WO.
I am going to continue for as long as it works.

I have used NO oil or anything but I am thinking about using jojoba for my lengths but it's not really necessary at the moment because my hair is so soft.
My hair surprisingly doesn't smell (I was worried about that) and it's not sticky anymore or oily ( I guess because I had dry hair ).
Again, still early but I will continue for as long as it works!

Ml001 11-09-2012 10:05 AM

So you know my background: I went 'no-poo' a year and a half ago. Now, I use DC no-poo maybe once a week (and I'm talking a very tiny amount - just to get a couple of spots that feel oily.) In between I am WO. It works great for me too. (I condition my length regularly.)

When I begin to notice build-up on my scalp, I will do a BS/ACV wash. It helps a lot and doesn't set you back with WO. You might consider that instead of a shampoo/conditioner thing, plus it's cheaper. :)

Knotty_Maddy 11-09-2012 01:25 PM

Please excuse my question, but I am really intrigued by this! Doesn't washing with WO leave your scalp dirty...?

Ml001 11-09-2012 04:32 PM

For me, it is surprisingly clean. But, honestly, I am still surprised when WO works lol. I have been doing WO for several months now and I see how good the roots look and I'm still like 'wow, I can't believe how well it actually works.' :)

Knotty_Maddy 11-09-2012 04:34 PM

Thanks so much for the answer, MI! Can you WO in between other shampoo-type washes? And can you do it if you use 'cones? Sorry, but I would like to try it, not being a pest on purpose ;p lol!

oh yes - and what does YMMV mean? lol! Been dying to ask you!

Ml001 11-09-2012 06:03 PM

Lol!! Ymmv --> your mileage may vary. :)

I need to clarify that I am not 100% WO. I do use a no-poo cleanser about once a week (have been able to stretch that longer the last couple of times) and WO in between. My hair looks better on days I WO wash than days I use the cleanser.

So you can definitely do WO in between cleansers. Some people do WO with nothing else with success, too. My biggest problem with being purely WO is that the cleansing comes from the friction of really using your fingertips and I don't care to expend the time or energy. Therefore, eventually I experience build-up. :) When I use a cleanser though I still use very, very little.

As far as cones...since they are usually not water soluble, they would build up but if you were using a shampoo regularly that removes them, then that probably wouldn't be a problem.

Good luck!!

Knotty_Maddy 11-09-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ml001 (Post 2067696)
Lol!! Ymmv --> your mileage may vary. :)

I need to clarify that I am not 100% WO. I do use a no-poo cleanser about once a week (have been able to stretch that longer the last couple of times) and WO in between. My hair looks better on days I WO wash than days I use the cleanser.

So you can definitely do WO in between cleansers. Some people do WO with nothing else with success, too. My biggest problem with being purely WO is that the cleansing comes from the friction of really using your fingertips and I don't care to expend the time or energy. Therefore, eventually I experience build-up. :) When I use a cleanser though I still use very, very little.

As far as cones...since they are usually not water soluble, they would build up but if you were using a shampoo regularly that removes them, then that probably wouldn't be a problem.

Good luck!!

Lol! LOVE the YMMV! Tx :) Man, I am sooooo trying this - I think I could get away with WO in between reg washes, as I only wash 4 times a week anyways. This means I could cut out two washes. And since I clarify at least once every 6 washes, it can't hurt to try! I am excited about this! :) will respond with results! Thanks so much for your sharing of info, MI!

ETA: If you don't mind me asking, how do you detangle...?

Ml001 11-09-2012 07:22 PM

I condition the length almost every day. If nothing else, I at least apply a LI. I use a wide tooth comb when the conditioner is in. I've also been using a Denman and I'm happy with how it detangles and removes loose hair but I am starting to wonder if it is pulling out my curls. :(

Knotty_Maddy 11-09-2012 09:34 PM

Well, my Denman is all that stands between me and frizz ;p so I don't mind losing a little curl def to get frizz free :D my wide tooth comb pulled out my curls, but my Denman defines them....Did you try SuperSoak method...?

Ml001 11-09-2012 10:06 PM

You know...I did that in the shower a couple of times and it worked well. Today my curls fell (and I don't want to lose any!) and I was wracking my brain trying to figure out what I had done differently. I did rewet it today but in the sink - and doing the ss method like that has never worked well. Hmm. I bet it was that...

I used to keep a journal of products when I was trying to figure out what worked/didn't work. Maybe I need to do that again now that I am concentrating more on styling products and techniques.

Thanks!! :)

Knotty_Maddy 11-09-2012 10:15 PM

she does say it works better in the shower - I have never tried it in the sink ;p all I know is it has saved me from cutting it all off! ;p it defines my clumps and curls and releases frizz. Sorry, I am off topic...

I will try water wash next time I do my hair (in two days, just did it today) so I will report back on how it worked! I will try anything once, and I am keen to try all new methods or OP's methods. It's the only way to find out :)

TangledMadness 11-10-2012 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ml001 (Post 2067420)
So you know my background: I went 'no-poo' a year and a half ago. Now, I use DC no-poo maybe once a week (and I'm talking a very tiny amount - just to get a couple of spots that feel oily.) In between I am WO. It works great for me too. (I condition my length regularly.)

When I begin to notice build-up on my scalp, I will do a BS/ACV wash. It helps a lot and doesn't set you back with WO. You might consider that instead of a shampoo/conditioner thing, plus it's cheaper. :)

Ah, thanks for the advice! When I did CO wash only I used to rinse with ACV and it dried my hair out but when I notice build up I will definitely just do the BS/ACV on my scalp only!
You're right, it's cheaper and you don't have to start over!!

What I do is, I go in the shower, massage my scalp for a few minutes and I wash with warm water only and then rinse with cold water.
I then use my BBB to comb my hair so the sebum spreads. I think sebum is our natural oils (?) so it's a natural moisture? And the idea is to let the scalp do it's own work and clean itself! :)
I'm new to this so I don't know all the info, I'm just going by what works atm! lol
All I know is my hair is tangle free and super soft! I used to spend hours detangling my crazy hair! And my hair was so dry like straw! If you'd look at it too long it would break.
I have type 3A/3B curls and if you want really defined curls I would use a wide tooth comb instead of a BBB.
But for me right now, it's all about getting back quality hair that will grow and look and be healthy! I don't even care about the curls (even though they do look more defined but when I comb it it gets more wavy but I don't mind right now).
Sorry for rambling, I'm just so excited I found something that works :)

TangledMadness 11-10-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Knotty_Maddy (Post 2067562)
Please excuse my question, but I am really intrigued by this! Doesn't washing with WO leave your scalp dirty...?

It's weird but my scalp has never been or looked this clean before!
It used to be so flakey lol and attract dust and dirt but now it's super clean and soft.
The BBB helps :) And I only brush it when it's wet. I just prefer it that way and i'm used to doing that because my hair used to be so tangly.
I don't lose as much hair as I did before.


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