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10-31-2012, 09:27 PM
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Garnier Fructics Anti-Frizz Serum FLAMMABLE!!!
OMG!! I just saw on the news a video of a lady who used Garnier Fructics Anti-Frizz serum catch on FIRE while she was blowing out candles on her birthday cake. I've posted a link about the lawsuit they got against the product. Ladies, PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...n_1524469.html
We were startled to discover today that L'Oreal is under fire (heh), i.e., possibly getting sued, for its Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine Anti-Frizz Serum -- because the stuff is reportedly flammable.
Women's Wear Daily reports today that the lawsuit against L'Oreal is on: A judge granted class action to four plaintiffs on Thursday who filed the motion for class certification on Feb. 2. The plaintiffs are seeking recognition for any person who purchased the Garnier serum from Feb. 4, 2008, to the present.
According to the lawsuit and Top Class Actions law blog, the Garnier serum’s two main ingredients are cyclopentasiloxane and dimethiconol, chemicals that can ignite at 171 degrees Fahrenheit. (Flat iron temperatures typically range from 300-450 degrees Fahrenheit.)
A copy of the original lawsuit, filed in June 2011, can be found here.
OMG. We've totally used that stuff before, without any bonfire-type incidents. But of course, flammable products are not exactly something you want coming between your hair and a high-heat styling appliance like a blow dryer or flat iron, which most women use on a regular basis.
We've contacted L'Oreal for comment on this lawsuit, and we'll keep you posted on whether the Garnier anti-frizz serum will be yanked from the shelves, but in the meantime, check out some other controversial beauty products below.
UPDATE: L'Oreal tells us, "We cannot comment on the current lawsuit except to say that L’Oréal denies the allegations and will continue to vigorously defend Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine Anti-Frizz Serum as safe for consumers."
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11-01-2012, 08:25 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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I call bunk on this. Dood, pretty much anything you put on your hair has the potential to be flammable. Hair in itself is flammable. It's not Garnier's responsibility to pull a product that contains ingredients a bajillion other companies are using. I own this product and really like it a lot if I'm straightening my hair. And if you light your hair on fire with a styling tool like a hairdryer or straightening iron, those tools were probably faulty. Hair is unlikely to just combustion when in contact with a high temperature...I've only heard of it combusting when exposed to an open flame.
It's not Garnier's fault some people are flaming idiots that don't understand that if you're putting a product in your hair, it has the potential of making your hair more flammable. The same lawsuit could probably be filed for products containing oils, since those can be flammable, too. Lots of other products are flammable, not just the silicone's they're talking about.
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http://public.fotki.com/SunshineGrrl/ pw: drama
Products
This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.
No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
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11-01-2012, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Reading about it was one thing but seeing someone hair catch fire from blowing out candles on their birthday cake and how quickly that stuff burned, ain't nothing "fooey" about that. If they are gonna sell a product that burst in flames that fast, there should be a warning on the label. Even the news woman with the story sprayed some weave with the serum and torched it. It burned completely in less than 30 seconds. This lawsuit definitely has merit and if they are gonna sell us stuff that can cause us major burns, as a consumer WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW.
I'm SO GLAD I left the serum game a long time ago. Coconut oil is my thing and it penetrates into the hair, unlike serum which sits on the hair.
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11-01-2012, 12:16 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Uh I used to put that in my dry hair then flat iron at 430f and I never had any problems. I think she just leaned to close to the cake.
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 rockin the curls God gave me.
Routine!
Shampoo as needed (Organix)
Conditioner Back to basics color protecting conditioner
Leave in Back to basics curly conditioner
Gel La looks curl gel on first day
Second day water conditioner spritz Pantene frizz mousse and La loos mega beachy spray gel
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11-01-2012, 12:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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She isn't the only woman. On the news they showed several women with 3rd degree burns and faces are disfigured because of this product. I wouldn't take the chance. If they ever get a case in Memphis and I'm on that jury I would fight for them to be compensated for damages. That stuff is combustible to a certian extent. From the video I saw, the lady may as well had out lighter fluid on her hair.
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11-01-2012, 03:37 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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I think the case has merit. With my recent Curl Mart order, I got a sample of a leave-in conditioner, which I do not intend to use, which came with a warning about high flammability as well as a warning about eye and skin irritation. If that product, Organic Root Stimulator's Curls Unleashed, carries a warning label because it contains some of the same ingredients, then I don't see why other companies don't also have the same warnings. The little sample packet I have says that Curls Unleashed is distributed in both the US and UK, so perhaps the UK has labeling laws that we don't. Regardless, it's not for baseless reasons.
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11-01-2012, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
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Hair is flammable. Putting oils and silicones in it increases flammability. If you are too close to a fire, your hair will catch fire, regardless of what product you used in it (even coconut oil)
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11-01-2012, 04:42 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I feel a lot safer with coconut oil than some synthetic serum that has stuff in it I don't need or add any nutrition to my hair. #ijs
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11-02-2012, 01:56 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I looked at the Garnier Fructis Anti-Frizz bottle this evening while I was at Walgreens, picking up some As I Am Cowash. There is not a warning label ANYWHERE on that bottle stating that the contents were flammable. On the Paul Mitchell skinny serum bottle I got at home, it is a warning on the bottle stating that the contents are flammable and stay away from open flames and cigarettes. Those ladies in this class action lawsuit are about to get PAID.
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11-02-2012, 07:31 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,108
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Maybe, maybe not. If there is no law stating they needed a warning label, the pay-out may not be all that amazing. especially since there are several other similar products out there without warning labels.
I bet (and would hope) that this turns into a required warning label situation, as with things like hair dryers, etc.
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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.
Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
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11-02-2012, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 172
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Something being flammable ( hair ) is one thing, but if you're going to market and sell something for people to put on their bodies and it contains fuel for the fire there should be a warning.
It's the difference between wearing a sweater to a bonfire which we all know has the potential to catch on fire, and unknowingly wearing a sweater with lighter fluid on it to a bonfire.
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11-02-2012, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Have there been any cases of head-fires while flatironing, or blow drying? If not then....m'eh. I feel for that woman, but I feel like it's common knowledge that a lot of hair products are flammable when exposed to actual flame/fire. Before reading this I always assumed that hairsprays and serums especially would catch fire.....even naked hair burns very, very quickly. When my hair was longer I always made sure it was tied back when dealing with fireplaces, candles or non-electrical cooking.
That said, I would argue that all these companies should put warnings on their products....but if that's not already a law, I don't think they have a case here.
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tiny s-waves, coils, and spirals
- Cleanser: CJ Daily Fix or KC Come Clean
- Co-wash: Suave Naturals or V05
- RO: GVP Conditioning Balm or Tresemme Naturals
-Stylers: Garnier Pure Clean Gel, CJ Aloe Fix, KCCC
"I remember your childhood hair....flowin' wild at the county fair" - kelley stoltz
"and all the hours that you've been sitting at your vanity....may they carry you far from your misery" - conor oberst
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11-02-2012, 01:07 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 814
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Do we really need a warning label on EVERYTHING? I mean, isn't it common sense that if you put hair products in that your flammability goes up just a tad? It's not some new discovery.
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Leave In: Suave Naturals Stylers: AIF, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse
*Desert Curly*
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11-02-2012, 01:39 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,108
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They have to put labels on hair dryers because some people decided to save time and dry their hair while still in the shower, which surprisingly enough that didn't go well.
That seems to be common sense, but clearly someone did it, leading to the need for the label. Likely the same thing applies here.
For those who saw video footage - was there any comparison footage? Did they set hair on fire that had no product in it? I'm jus curious if there was a huge difference there.
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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.
Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
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11-02-2012, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,813
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I have a mannequin head from when I was attending cosmetology school. I'm half tempted to do my own experiment. But then I'd actually have to find the head...
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2B...ish
http://public.fotki.com/SunshineGrrl/ pw: drama
Products
This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.
No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
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11-02-2012, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I didn't know my PM serum was flammable until this morning when I read the warning label on the bottle and I'm not one of those people that assume that everything I put on my hair is. When I buy products, I buy them with the presumption that I will be safe using them, as most consumers do. People have the RIGHT to know BEFORE they purchase a product, the risks involved including if it has the potential to be flammable. It is totally irresponsible for a company to not inform a consumer with a label that their product can catch fire. People don't just "automatically" know what products will do. The fact that Garnier (or whoever own them) did not put a warning label on the product is negligence on their part. Why do u think the FDA requires for companies to list the ingredients??!!! People have the RIGHT to know what they are putting on their hair.
Last edited by GoldenBlaze; 11-02-2012 at 03:11 PM.
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11-02-2012, 03:09 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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They showed 2 videos on the news. The first video was a woman blowing out candles at her birthday party and her hair caught fire. Within seconds her entire head was in flames, like lighter fluid. On the second video, the news reporter had some weave. She put some of the Garnier serum on the weave and lit a match. Within seconds, the entire batch of weave was destroyed. That stuff is DANGEROUS. When that woman hair was on fire, I thought she was Johnny Blaze from the Fantastic Four. They didn't have time to put the fire out before she suffered 3rd degree burns. Thats just how quicky her hair turned into a blaze. She is currently disfigured. I quit using serums over a year ago and I'm SO GLAD. Had I known that serum I was using was flammable, I would have never used it in the first place.
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11-02-2012, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 10
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I totally agree.. People should realize that all hair products have something that is flammable it it.. I feel bad for people who have severe burns or are disfigured but I've know since childhood that my real hair weave and HAIR PRODUCTS ARE FLAMMABLE.. Im sure she knew it was possible but probably just never thought it would happen to her like most of us
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11-02-2012, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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I agree sometimes people have to have some common sense..I do feel for the injured but come on now..almost EVERYTHING is flammable
Naturaljourni26
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11-02-2012, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Common sense isn't common and everything you use on hair is not flammable. But thats not the point. It is the responsibility of the maker of the product to let the consumers know the risk of using their products as mandated by the FDA. Garnier did not do this, which is negligent on their part.
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