Henna help...

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I have medium skin tone and medium brown hair, and I'd never colored my hair before until two days ago. I have always wanted a reddish/auburn in my hair, so I purchased Rainbow Mahogany Medium Auburn Henna and tried it. I mixed it with a cup of raspberry tea (as recommended,) but it was too doughy so I added a lot of water. I applied it for about an hour then rinsed it out. IT WAS SO HARD TO RINSE. It took forever, even with a lowpoo and lots of conditioner, and I think I might still have some in there because I smell it.

Anyway, the color is...very minimal. None of my friends noticed, even when I told them I dyed it. To see it, you really have to look close. It didn't make my hair much redder, just gave me a tinge of red highlights...

I want to try this again, but I don't know if I should use that brand again. Here are my questions...

1) Did it not color my hair because it's too dark?
2) If so, should I purchase Rainbow Burgundy Dark Auburn Henna instead?
3) Would it be best to take another route and buy some henna from an Indian grocery? Do I have to follow a difficult recipe to make it?
4) How long should I leave it on?
5) How do you rinse it out efficiently?

Thank you so much! I'm so sorry for all the questions...just so new to this.
Here is a picture of my friend and me. She has the color hair that I'd love(: Also, based on the picture, do you think a red color would mesh well with my skin tone or look weird because I'm not fair?

Thanks!!
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I'd recommend you don't use Rainbow. I've heard their sift is not good (meaning hard removal) and it's not pure henna – the colors other than "Red" have Indigo and Cassia in them, which is fine if you're aware. (If you bleach your hair after indigo, it will be green! Word of warning.)

Also, some people experience curl loosening with henna. My hair's cuticle feels much smoother after a henna treatment and my curls hang a bit more. However, I also have a strong curl pattern.

1) Did it not color my hair because it's too dark?
My hair is very dark and still gets color from henna. (I'll attach pics below of the treatment I did on Thursday.)

2) If so, should I purchase Rainbow Burgundy Dark Auburn Henna instead?
You could, but I don't think the brand is good quality and this color will have more indigo in the mix than the one you used before.

3) Would it be best to take another route and buy some henna from an Indian grocery? Do I have to follow a difficult recipe to make it?
I'd suggest you buy Body Art Quality (BAQ) henna from online (preferred – try Henna Sooq, Butters-and-Bars.) or from the Indian grocery. You don't need a difficult recipe: just a mildly acidic juice (lemon can be a bit drying; orange or apple works) or strong tea. Let the mix rest covered in plastic for the necessary time for dye release!! This is super important. Henna Sooq has a good guide for this online.

4) How long should I leave it on?
Depends on how much control you want over the color. You can do strand tests to figure out how it will change your hair color. For me, I want as much color/conditioning as I can, so I wear it overnight.

5) How do you rinse it out efficiently?
I suggest using the pressure from the bathtub faucet to your advantage. Other people fill the tub and dunk their hair in and shake it out. Using a cheap conditioner like Vo5 or Suave is good once most of the grit is out.

Hope that helps!

[My hair color before; with an orange glow the day after; the day after that once henna is oxidized.]
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Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers SD treatment H&S Clinical Strength

I don't like Rainbow Henna. It is hard to rinse even when I put oil and conditioner in the mix which is supposed to make henna less drying and easier to rinse.
Not only are there different brands of henna but there are different types of henna that yield different color results. For example is you go to Hennasooq site you will see henna from different regions. I suggest you go to the henna thread for tips on what kind of henna might give you the results you want.

For my hair the henna color is not as visable unless I am in bright sunlight. Even still people may not notice much because my hair is naturally reddish brown but the henna makes it more reddish. The exception are my grays. One type of henna i used made them orangy which I hated.
I don't recommend buying henna in a store. With the Rainbow brand, it does have other stuff mixed in, so it's not 100% henna. I think I remember reading somewhere that the Rainbow brand also contains metallic dyes, which can affect other hair color if you decide to color over the henna.

Henna cannot be bleached and is beyond permanent. You cannot bleach henna out, you can only do a deposit only hair color until the henna has grown out.

I recommend using Body Art Quality henna also. Depending on how rich you want the color, there are different dye content. I have medium to dark blonde hair (I think...I've been hennaed so long I can't tell you for sure. I think I've gotten lighter since I've been hennaing...probably grey setting in, IDK). I buy my henna from Henna for Hair and it has lots of different dye contents so you can make your own decision.

Mixing henna is easy. You just mix it together with an acidic base. I used to use lemon juice (it's what the hennaforhair website recommends), but it was too drying on my hair, so I make a good strong tea that has an acidic element, then mix it up.

Henna is always going to be hard to rinse out and I smell the henna in my hair for something like 7-10 days afterward. I've gotten all the henna out, but the smell lingers a long time for me. Kind of an earthy, grassy smell. Ginger is supposed to counteract the small, but I still smell like henna for the next 7-10 days no matter how much ginger I use. I usually hop in the shower with my highest power spray and let it pound my hair for a bit. Then I do a co-wash using conditioner very liberally to help rinse out the grit. It's the only time I co-wash and works really well. You'll notice that for a bit, some henna will seem to bleed on to the towel as you wash. It's completely normal as the henna oxidizes.

How long you leave it on depends on what results you want. I usually do an overnight treatment because wearing a bunch of mud on my head for hours gives me a headache. If I do a regular henna treatment, I will usually leave it on for at least 3 hours. I need it for the dye release, though, since my hair is so fair. I get a flame red color. So I guess my henna wear time can vary anywhere from 3-8 hours.
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Yes! BAQ henna is definitely better and it is so much easier to rinse out, especially from curly hair. The quality and pureness of henna is very important and there's really "bad" henna around!

In your post it wasn't clear if you put your henna on immediately after mixing it in the tea...? As poemaXX said, you need to wait for the dye release to get the colour out of henna. If you didn't do this that might be the reason why your hair didn't change colour.
After mixing the henna with liquid (water, tea...) and some acidy stuff you can cover the mix with plastic and let it sit in a warm place until it releases colour (until the green paste has turned brown on top with some red "puddles"). This is when you can use the henna to colour you hair or skin. Depending on the temperature henna dye release can take up to 12 hrs or more... or less...

I've used vanilla, cinnamon, cloves etc. to get a softer smell in my henna, but despite all the adds it will always smell a bit.After 2 or so washes the smell fades away.

Henna is great for conditioning and colouring, so don't give up. Good luck next time!
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Here are my questions...

1) Did it not color my hair because it's too dark?
No. I have very low porosity, nearly un-colorable dark brown hair and henna makes it red in the sun, brown with slight reddish tint indoors.
2) If so, should I purchase Rainbow Burgundy Dark Auburn Henna instead?
No. I think you used the wrong process, not necessarily the wrong henna. Although I do use henna from hennaforhair.com and that stuff is the bomb. With henna you need to mix it with lemon juice and cold water. Let it sit until the dye starts to stain, then put it in your hair, cover it with plastic so it doesn't dry, and leave it there for some hours.
3) Would it be best to take another route and buy some henna from an Indian grocery? Do I have to follow a difficult recipe to make it?
You would probably be fine with "Jamila" brand henna from the indian market, or just go to the hennaforhair site if you want verified dye content. Not a difficult recipe, water with some lemon juice, half and half or 1/3 lemon juice to 2/3 water or 1/4 lemon juice to 3/4 water have all worked for me. I also add some conditioner to make it easier to rinse out later.
4) How long should I leave it on?
Four hours if you can.
5) How do you rinse it out efficiently?
It *is* hard to rinse out, that is its nature. I mix the henna with conditioner when coloring, that helps. I use real shampoo. I rinse for a long time, parting and lifting the hair to get water against all the scalp, and then shampoo, and then low-poo, and then conditioner, and the water is still not completely clear. IME the henna doesn't completely 'set' until your hair has dried after the initial washing, THEN when you wash it the next time it is all removed. It's like it has to dry in or something. The smell is normal and will fade.

Also, based on the picture, do you think a red color would mesh well with my skin tone or look weird because I'm not fair?
No, henna red looks good on most skin tones. It is kind of like that green lipstick that was supposed to be 'your perfect pink'.

Hope this helps.

Robin
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Henna!

Last edited by Robin-in-FL; 11-04-2012 at 07:21 AM.
Also, based on the picture, do you think a red color would mesh well with my skin tone or look weird because I'm not fair?
No, henna red looks good on most skin tones. It is kind of like that green lipstick that was supposed to be 'your perfect pink'.
Originally Posted by Robin-in-FL
What a great way to say it! So true.
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Let me just say that YOU ARE ALL WONDERFUL! Thank you so, so much for your GREAT advice! Now, I have a much better idea of what to buy and how to do this...and I think it did it completely wrong last time, haha. Today, I'm going to get some real henna and lemon juice, and I'll try this again. I'll post the results, too

Again, I can't even tell you how much of a help this was. Eternally grateful! Thanks again!!
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Well, it's in my hair now! I got Mehandi henna, I think, from an Indian grocery...for only $2.99! It had amla and shikaki, which I think are conditioners. Someone there recommended it(:

Anyway, before, when I tried henna, all I did was follow the directions by mixing some tea and applying it right away for an hour. Haha, I was so misinformed. This time, I mixed in some raspberry tea as well as some lemon juice, and then I let it sit for a few hours in a warmer place before application. I used all of it this time (instead of 3/4 like last time) and am going to wear it at least 3 hours! Thanks again, for the help! I'll update tomorrow(:
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LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

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It worked! I got a beautiful red color today that people seemed to like a lot(: Also, my hair is soft and doesn't smell bad at all! It was so easy to rinse out last night too. Thanks so much for the great advice! It helped a lot.

Here's a before/after picture. The before one is pretty old, haha, but it's my natural hair color. My hair after the henna looks redder in person, also.

Thanks again!!
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Growing out a CL bob. Currently at APL.
CG again as of 7/20/12


Cleanser: BRÖÖ Smoothing I.P.A. Shampoo
RO: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

all-natural products, light moisture, humectants, argan oil
silk protein, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils/products, cowashing
It worked! I got a beautiful red color today that people seemed to like a lot(: Also, my hair is soft and doesn't smell bad at all! It was so easy to rinse out last night too. Thanks so much for the great advice! It helped a lot.

Here's a before/after picture. The before one is pretty old, haha, but it's my natural hair color. My hair after the henna looks redder in person, also.

Thanks again!!
Originally Posted by dresdendoll
Yay!!! So happy to hear it worked out well.
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Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month Leave-in OH Hair Dew Cheapie Conditioner Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR Style AOMMJ – Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers SD treatment H&S Clinical Strength

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