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Old 11-09-2012, 11:03 AM   #1
 
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Most of us have a system we go about when our hair gets grumpy and starts looking "blah", so what's yours?

When my hair gets blah I usually try a clarifying wash, and then a PT/DT.

Sometimes I'll try switching up products, too, but typically the first step does it.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:30 AM   #2
 
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I second the clarify, PT/DT routine. Then I start experimenting with moisture vs protein- I know I have a tendency to slack on moisture because I get so focused on the limitless amount of protein my hair seems to like.

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Old 11-09-2012, 11:55 AM   #3
 
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Once again, Corrina, our hair was separated at birth! Lol! My hair LOOOVES protein, too. And especially in the winter it's hard to keep it balanced on the moisture side!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
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RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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A wig. LOL
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:05 PM   #5
 
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Once again, Corrina, our hair was separated at birth! Lol! My hair LOOOVES protein, too. And especially in the winter it's hard to keep it balanced on the moisture side!

Lol- I think you're right! This thread is making me think that I really should do a PT/DT this weekend- it's been months!

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Old 11-09-2012, 01:35 PM   #6
 
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I am about to do a PT - I hate protein but I think my hair needs some occasionally. *sigh* off to get the tub of Greek yogourt...
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:02 PM   #7
 
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Knotty - have you tried gelatin??

Corrina - lol! Me too! No time this weekend I'm afraid... But I'll have to give it a shot next week!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
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Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
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DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
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Knotty - have you tried gelatin??

Corrina - lol! Me too! No time this weekend I'm afraid... But I'll have to give it a shot next week!
No, but I will - how do you use it?

Right now I am sitting here with a headful of mayo, yogourt, honey and olive oil. I clarified with baking soda and ACV prior to applying it, and I will follow it up with coconut oil after rinsing this goo outta my hair ;p then I will wash and condition as per usual.

Is gelatin any easier to deal with?
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My hair officially hates protein Once a month is enough!
Currently a fan of TiGi products, (rock on, TiGi Curlesque styling creme!) but that will soon change - I am a self-avowed product junkie! Yay!
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:37 PM   #9
 
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I think gelatin is easy! And my hair LOOOVES it. In fact, I use other protein treatments, but gelatin is always better.

AIgirl is a member on here who put up her recipe. I'd been using gelatin long before I came here - my friend who use to do syncronized swimming turned me onto it. It's what they use to slick back their hair!

My hair adores protein, so you may have to adjust the amounts for your own needs. I use 2 packets of unflavored Knox gelatin, mixed with about 1/8-1/4 cup water. Mix the two and then microwave it and stir. Then I add some coconut oil, Epsom salt, and acv. Sometimes I'll throw in some AVG and some CNPF (liquid protein available from Sally's or Amazon.)

I usually do a clarifying wash first, then I detangle with some condish. I squeeze out the excess condish, and then add the protein mixture. (by this time it's cooled enough). Then I wrap my hair in a bag, and I'll either put my head under the shower for a few minutes, or if I have time I'll get out and put the heating pad on my head.

Then I rinse, and follow up with at least a quick DT - a good condish (GVPCB) mixed with a little EVOO, ECOO, honey, and acv.

I try to co-wash the next day or day after just to be sure the moisture stays up, but that's not always necessary.

Hope that's enough info! Lol!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:49 PM   #10
 
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um, ok, I will look for algirl's recipe...you know me, always willing to try something new! (my Inner Geek is very scientific and looooves to experiment, lol!)

So far so good with the treatment I did today - my hair was obviously jonesing for protein. Funny how some protein types work better than other proteins, I mean yogourt worked much better than the coconut milk I once tried - though my hair loves coco oil, it didn't love the milk ;p

Now I am very excited about trying gelatin! lol! Thanks! =D

ETA - oops! lol! I guess you edited before I responded. Or there's a ghost in the system ;p anyways, I will use your recipe! Lol! Tx!
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My hair officially hates protein Once a month is enough!
Currently a fan of TiGi products, (rock on, TiGi Curlesque styling creme!) but that will soon change - I am a self-avowed product junkie! Yay!
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:50 PM   #11
 
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When my hair gets blah I use my aphogee 2 min reconstructor, deep condition, add some leave in and slick it back into a faux bun for a few days then it's usually back to how I want it by then lol.
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um, ok, I will look for algirl's recipe...you know me, always willing to try something new! (my Inner Geek is very scientific and looooves to experiment, lol!)

So far so good with the treatment I did today - my hair was obviously jonesing for protein. Funny how some protein types work better than other proteins, I mean yogourt worked much better than the coconut milk I once tried - though my hair loves coco oil, it didn't love the milk ;p

Now I am very excited about trying gelatin! lol! Thanks! =D

ETA - oops! lol! I guess you edited before I responded. Or there's a ghost in the system ;p anyways, I will use your recipe! Lol! Tx!
IAGirl's original recipe is now off site on Pedaheh's blog, and the thread about it is here: PT recipe - as promised
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um, ok, I will look for algirl's recipe...you know me, always willing to try something new! (my Inner Geek is very scientific and looooves to experiment, lol!)

So far so good with the treatment I did today - my hair was obviously jonesing for protein. Funny how some protein types work better than other proteins, I mean yogourt worked much better than the coconut milk I once tried - though my hair loves coco oil, it didn't love the milk ;p

Now I am very excited about trying gelatin! lol! Thanks! =D

ETA - oops! lol! I guess you edited before I responded. Or there's a ghost in the system ;p anyways, I will use your recipe! Lol! Tx!
IAGirl's original recipe is now off site on Pedaheh's blog, and the thread about it is here: PT recipe - as promised
Aw, thanks, Geek Chic! Jas posted and it cut out after her first phrase, then when I posted, the rest of her post - including recipe - came up. I am going to defs try it, b/c my hair really liked yogourt today - is so soooooft! lol. Normally it hates protein, but I know it needs some. My treatment today really perked my hair up, so I am grateful to Jas, as well as Spiral who told me to try some protein in my thread "can't get hold" . I will check out your links!

Man, that's why I love this place. Everyone is nice, everyone shares, and we all try to help each other....
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S-shaped hair with corkscrew ends. My hair is even more confused than me ;p
My hair officially hates protein Once a month is enough!
Currently a fan of TiGi products, (rock on, TiGi Curlesque styling creme!) but that will soon change - I am a self-avowed product junkie! Yay!
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:22 PM   #14
 
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LOL! Sorry about that earlier! One of my darling boys decided to grab my phone and posted it before I was done! Lol! So I edited to finish it, but forgot to mention that little detail! Haha!

Ah, 2 year olds. And I've got TWO of them!!

Thanks for posting that link, GC! Take a look at that one, too, bc her recipe is a little different, I think, plus she lists several possible additives.

Like I said, I'd been using gelatin for years, but I modified what I did based on AIgirl's recipe, and it helped!

Good luck!!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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LOL! Sorry about that earlier! One of my darling boys decided to grab my phone and posted it before I was done! Lol! So I edited to finish it, but forgot to mention that little detail! Haha!

Ah, 2 year olds. And I've got TWO of them!!

Thanks for posting that link, GC! Take a look at that one, too, bc her recipe is a little different, I think, plus she lists several possible additives.

Like I said, I'd been using gelatin for years, but I modified what I did based on AIgirl's recipe, and it helped!

Good luck!!
***TWO*** of them...? lol! You have more courage than I ever did, Jas (I did see your recipe eventually and thanks for that!) My hair is very soft from the yogourt treatment, feels like silk but now I *MUST* know what gelatin does! lol! Curiosity...'tis a bane and a blessing
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My hair officially hates protein Once a month is enough!
Currently a fan of TiGi products, (rock on, TiGi Curlesque styling creme!) but that will soon change - I am a self-avowed product junkie! Yay!
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:53 PM   #16
 
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Well, I didn't PLAN on two at once! Lol!

I guess I've never done yogurt before... I've done eggs and mayo, tho. Maybe I'll give the yogurt a try sometime!

My husband already thinks I'm nuts... Haha
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RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
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I clarify or do a DT. No protein here!!

My twin babies just turned 12! I can still relate to the 2-yr old thing, though, because I have my grandson a lot and he is 14 months. He loves my phone!!
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Well, I didn't PLAN on two at once! Lol!

I guess I've never done yogurt before... I've done eggs and mayo, tho. Maybe I'll give the yogurt a try sometime!

My husband already thinks I'm nuts... Haha
trust me on this I know your mileage may vary, as MI says, but. ! Dang, I was impressed! So as I mentioned earlier in the thread, and boy did it work! I looooove Greek yogourt! lol! It seems to be the only protein my hair likes ;p so far!

Who knows though, it might love gelatin bettah
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S-shaped hair with corkscrew ends. My hair is even more confused than me ;p
My hair officially hates protein Once a month is enough!
Currently a fan of TiGi products, (rock on, TiGi Curlesque styling creme!) but that will soon change - I am a self-avowed product junkie! Yay!
BIG fan of supersoaker method - thanks Rudeechick!
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Well, some find it strong - I know I said I use 2 packets, but you might want to start with just one.

Let us know how it goes!!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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When my hair gets blah I use my aphogee 2 min reconstructor, deep condition, add some leave in and slick it back into a faux bun for a few days then it's usually back to how I want it by then lol.
Fefe, you are gorgeous and you have gorgeous hair I am jeals! lol!
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My hair officially hates protein Once a month is enough!
Currently a fan of TiGi products, (rock on, TiGi Curlesque styling creme!) but that will soon change - I am a self-avowed product junkie! Yay!
BIG fan of supersoaker method - thanks Rudeechick!
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