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RenFen123 11-10-2012 06:55 PM

Help a new curly teen out?
 
Hi, I have had relaxed my hair for many years. In the past two years I have stopped and now have my natural hair very long. However, my hair is not curling. My entire head of hair is curly but when it tries it dries horribly. The curls are not defined at all. My curls are an "S" shape at the outer surface but inside it's just random curls of all types. I can't not blow dry my hair because when it air dries it just grows brittle and really dry, it looks like hay and it basically balloons to the side of my head. No curls are even seen.

Knotty_Maddy 11-10-2012 07:08 PM

I have long, S shaped curls with corkscrew ends. I have used many products and techniques to define clumps :) please check the "hair types" on the left hand side of the menu above us :) there are so many things to consider. What type of hair do you have? What kind of products do you use? Have you tried different techniques? (look at the "Techniques" sticky on the top of both the newbie column and the General Hair Discussions forum)

It will be very hard for any one to recommend anything unless you list how you wash/condish your hair, what products you use, and what techniques you use to diffuse your hair. Everyone wants to help, but many details are necessary! Also, what works for anyone else's hair may not work for yours...hair is so individual...

RenFen123 11-10-2012 08:16 PM

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I feel like you have just saved me from drowning.
I put pictures of my hair type.
So basically on an every week basis I wash my hair and then hair dry with rollers.
Then after the rollers I blow dry by hair.
I do a normal wash with Pantene nature fusion. Then I condition my hair with suave mostirizing almond+shea butter conditioner.

Now when I wash my hair and leave it to air dry I do the same thing but after I put A) Beautiful textures curl control defining pudding.
This didn't do anything to my hair
Then I tried B) mixed chicks leave in conditioner.
Also didnt work
Then c) Nothing (as a controlled variable to see if anything would happen)
My hair gets horrible either way.
This is my hair when I wash it:

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This is my hair after: No this is not blurry this is what my hair actually looks like. A broom,Attachment 27032

Knotty_Maddy 11-10-2012 08:42 PM

sounds to me like your hair is OD'ing on protein, have you tried using protein-free products for a while? You really need to figure out your hair type, it does help a great deal - please check out the HAIR TYPES menu choice on the top left above us here. Once you determine your type, you can figure out what your hair needs. I haven't been here very long, but this is one thing I have taken to heart! lol! You can also go to livecurlylivefree.com and have your hair type analysed to see what products might be best for you. I haven't done this yet, but I will soon :)

If you look on product reviews here, you can choose "Protein Free" on the menu bar down the left to filter your results. Then type in the products you use/want to try and see if they have protein or not in them. They won't come up in the search if they have protein in them. There are icons below the products, you can hover your mouse over them and a box will appear with a description of the icon. Usually, a "no protein" icon is a red triangle with a red ball in each corner of the triangle. Check all of the products you use now and see how many have protein in them. Hair loves protein, but not too often for many people.

Also you need to figure out if your hair likes humectants (like glycerin) or hates them...sadly, no one can figure this out but you, via trial and elimination. It's an adventure for all of us ;p

I used to use Pantene but it always dried my hair out like crazy...most of their products have protein (which my hair personally hates.) Have you tried some low or no sulfate shampoos? Sulfates can really destroy curly hair. Some inexpensive places to start are L'Oreal EverCreme lines. You can find them in any drugstore. Really, finally, what you need to do is look at the "Techniques" stickies on the top of the Newbie forums, to see if there is a better way to style/handle your hair; then try to figure out your hair type; then try to figure out what your hair needs. Or try to sort out your hair type, then choose the forum option that corresponds (such as 2, 3, 4, ect.) then try to find posters who have hair like you. Until you figure out what type of hair you have, and whether or not it is coarse or porous and etc, there won't be much anyone can do to help you...

Also, at the top of the Newbies forum, there is a sticky posted there with all the abbreviations and terms people use here, that will also help you. Good luck, because it is all experimentation! There are no pat or easy solutions anyone can give you, really, but you have already begun your journey to healthy curls in the right place :) research as much as you can here, read as many posts as you can, so much good info here - and I wish you well!

ps looks like you might be a 4A - please confirm that by going to the HAIR TYPES menu, and looking for an example of what your hair looks like :)

RenFen123 11-10-2012 08:53 PM

Wow you are really so amazing.

All of that helped me so much. I'm going to research / try to find the things you mentioned. starting with my hair type. Thank you so much. My mother doesn't even know how to deal with my hair. Our hair is so different, so i have no where to turn to when it comes to dealing with my curly hair.

seriously thank you so much.

Knotty_Maddy 11-10-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RenFen123 (Post 2068142)
Wow you are really so amazing.

All of that helped me so much. I'm going to research / try to find the things you mentioned. starting with my hair type. Thank you so much. My mother doesn't even know how to deal with my hair. Our hair is so different, so i have no where to turn to when it comes to dealing with my curly hair.

seriously thank you so much.

I can't get my PM thingie to work, so... look here: http://livecurlylivefree.com/curly%20hair% and also here: Welcome and check out the ingredients in your hair products (choose ingredient dictionary on the left lower menu) also look here: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...rlies-%3D.html

=)

poemaXX 11-10-2012 09:08 PM

Have you cut off the relaxed portion of your hair? Keep in mind that hair is dead and once it undergoes chemical and/or heat damage, it can't be "fixed", only temporarily mended using protein treatments.

Do you know your hair's properties (texture, porosity, etc)? This will help you figure out what your hair needs to be its healthiest: Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics Keep in mind that if you still have some of your relaxed hair, it's porosity may be different from your natural un-relaxed growth.

Keep us posted and ask as many questions as you like!

RenFen123 11-10-2012 09:25 PM

Maddy - I'll look at those sites right now! :)


and ms.poema :)
I actually have no experience dealing with curly hair at all. My hair was permed when I was 8 years old and I'm 18 now. I stopped perming my hair about 2 years ago. I have been slowly cutting of the damaged relaxed hair because I was afraid to undergo a full on chop. So now I have a head filled with un-normal curly hair that I do not understand. Literally; who's hair goes from curly, to a broom in the course of maybe 3 hours. It doesn't dry into curls it dries into strands of hay (as my pictures demonstrate)

I have to do so much research about what type of hair I have.
But actually speaking to people about this is making me feel like I am getting some support so thanks guys.

poemaXX 11-10-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RenFen123 (Post 2068155)
Maddy - I'll look at those sites right now! :)


and ms.poema :)
I actually have no experience dealing with curly hair at all. My hair was permed when I was 8 years old and I'm 18 now. I stopped perming my hair about 2 years ago. I have been slowly cutting of the damaged relaxed hair because I was afraid to undergo a full on chop. So now I have a head filled with un-normal curly hair that I do not understand. Literally; who's hair goes from curly, to a broom in the course of maybe 3 hours. It doesn't dry into curls it dries into strands of hay (as my pictures demonstrate)

I have to do so much research about what type of hair I have.
But actually speaking to people about this is making me feel like I am getting some support so thanks guys.

Oh, yes we're here to help! :laughing8:

I understand that you were scared to do a big chop. Microtrims as you go along are a good way to go about it.

I wonder if one way to wear your hair curly is to do a braid-out? Secrets to a Mean Braid Out! | Curly Nikki | Natural Hair Styles and Natural Hair Care I've never done one myself, but I know folks who are transitioning find it useful to give their hair some shape. Also, that Curly Nikki blog is really great. :)

Knotty_Maddy 11-10-2012 11:05 PM

Thanks for chiming in, Poema - those were great tips! :) (and by the way - you have gorgeous curls, young lady! I can see Renfen does, too - they are there, just waiting to spring forth! :D)

Renfen, you will find your way, trust me - and everyone here will help as much as they can, as you are willing to help yourself :) it might not be an easy start, and I understand your frustration and confusion - I have been there myself. I think most of us here have been there. But once you find out a few things about your hair type, and talk to others who have the same issues, you will soon be on your way to small successes. What I have found is that each small step forward results in a reward, however small - and so each small reward in dealing with one's hair leads to a larger success. :) in no time at all, you will learn to deal with your personal hair, and to love it - it does look very pretty, you know! It just needs a little TLC :) don't give up! And try not to drown in the info, honey! lol! It's like drinking from a firehose...but it's all good stuff. Hang in there! What a great journey you have embarked upon...the results will quite astound you!

RenFen123 11-10-2012 11:51 PM

You girls are both such sweet hearts.
<3

I think I am going to try the braid twist out poema. Never done it before but like you said Maddy it's experimenting lol.

I definitely know I am going to come on here a lot more often updating what I find that works and doesn't work and getting advice from awesome people like you guys.

You've motivated me!

Knotty_Maddy 11-10-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RenFen123 (Post 2068189)
You girls are both such sweet hearts.
<3

I think I am going to try the braid twist out poema. Never done it before but like you said Maddy it's experimenting lol.

I definitely know I am going to come on here a lot more often updating what I find that works and doesn't work and getting advice from awesome people like you guys.

You've motivated me!

Yay! Another curly saved :) lol!


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