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Old 11-20-2012, 08:18 PM   #1
 
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Exclamation Something BAD has happened to my curls!

I have natrually 3a curls, they're normally little to no maintenance, but then I did some horrible things. I dyed my natural blonde hair to a dark brown, and 3 months later decided its not for me. I ended up bleaching my whole head resulting in over processed, limp, dry, and very very sad curls.


Before dyeing

Now.

As you can see, the top is now very flat and blah, the curls are virtually non-existent! Because it is so over processed, I'm laying off the dye from now on.

Right now, I shampoo every-other wash, and use a daily leave-in conditioner. I never use heat, not even a diffuser. Any suggestions on how I can revive my limp curls while they grow out? Could a layered cut help spring back the limp curls?
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:52 PM   #2
 
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A cut would probably help. Have you done a protein treatment? I think you need to do some protein treatments followed by moisture moisture moisture. Your hair is probably high porosity after the bleach, but this page tells you how to find out your hair properties: http://www.livecurlylivefree.com/cur...r%20basics.htm

Your curls are gorgeous by the way
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:54 PM   #3
 
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I would say you need to start weekly PT's and at least weekly DT's. (one right after the PT is usually good, since protein can be drying for some.)

If you are shampooing every other wash, I'd suggest doing it even less, of possible. If you are CG or even mod-cg, co-wash as much as possible, and/or try a sulfate free poo.

I think you need as much protein as your hair can take, and tons of moisture.

They will start to come back! It will just take some babying.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:36 PM   #4
 
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Thanks Jas76 and Spiralspunk! I DID do a protein treatment (Aphogee 2-step protein treatment) and this has helped enormously with breakage. I will start doing hardcore DT, as I usually get lazy with it and skip the plastic cap&heating.

I guess I should invest in a good organic shampoo as I'm more picky about the conditioner, but its possible that the shampoo I have is just too harsh, ill give it a go only shampooing once a week!

Thanks again
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:15 AM   #5
 
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Shea Moisture makes a very gentle shampoo, you might like that one!

Regular PT's and DT's are a must - so even if you dot have the time for the cap and heat, just do one while you shave your legs for 5 mins in the shower, even!

I use my regular RO and add honey, EVOO, and a little ACV, leave it on for 3-5min in the shower, detangle, then rinse and add LI.

Keep us posted!!
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RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:06 PM   #6
 
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Default Something BAD has happened to my curls!

Oh dear! That WAS drastic, judging from the pix! You're wise to utterly lay off hair color for a very long time. All the other suggestions are good, including a cut so you can get some of this major damaged length off, and give your hair LOTS and LOTS of TLC in the meantime. Co-washing, very little in the way of shampooing and only if you really need it, and weekly protein and very moisturizing DTs. To get this started, you might have to go and have a couple of professional-level conditioning treatments and then follow up with good stuff at home. Or at the very least, go to Sally Beauty Supply and ask for the heaviest duty protein and deep moisture treatments they can recommend for very damaged hair, which is what you have now. Great thing about Sally Beauty Supply is that they have many things in small packets, so if one treatment conditioner isn't quite to one's liking one isn't out a lot of money. It will take time to get it back in shape, but, you must also not abuse it any further with bleaching. Bleaching, and then trying to get back to a deeper color is really really hard on the hair. A lot of people try to correct color at home with disastrous results, then they have to go to a salon to have it done and pay lots of money because it might take several sessions to fix it all, and then the treatments to make the hair feel better. Best of luck!
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:20 PM   #7
 
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OK girls, thanks for all your wonderful advice, I learned my hair is actually fine and LOW porosity (despite the claim that damaged hair causes high porosity). I also learned the conditioners I was using contained silicones, as well as the shampoo I was using had sulfates&silicones. SO... I went to the store, trashed everything I owned and started new. I got Loreal sulfate/silicone free shampoo&conditioner (since I'm going to be using less shampoo, and less frequently, I decided to start with a cheaper option).

I bought shea moisture deep conditioner for dry/damaged hair. I put the products to test, I used the deep conditioner and rinsed well, and then applied the loreal conditioner as a leave in.

(I also read every bit of the articles on this page, which changed the way I handled my hair during washing as well http://www.livecurlylivefree.com/cur...r%20basics.htm...thanks SpiralSpunk)

The results are pretty incredible:


This is only day one!! I even have a few of my ringlets back . So happy to be EDUCATED now, and on the 'road to recovery' !
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:24 PM   #8
 
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Wow what a difference so happy for you
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:17 PM   #9
 
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OK girls, thanks for all your wonderful advice, I learned my hair is actually fine and LOW porosity (despite the claim that damaged hair causes high porosity). I also learned the conditioners I was using contained silicones, as well as the shampoo I was using had sulfates&silicones. SO... I went to the store, trashed everything I owned and started new. I got Loreal sulfate/silicone free shampoo&conditioner (since I'm going to be using less shampoo, and less frequently, I decided to start with a cheaper option).

I bought shea moisture deep conditioner for dry/damaged hair. I put the products to test, I used the deep conditioner and rinsed well, and then applied the loreal conditioner as a leave in.

(I also read every bit of the articles on this page, which changed the way I handled my hair during washing as well http://www.livecurlylivefree.com/cur...r%20basics.htm...thanks SpiralSpunk)

The results are pretty incredible:


This is only day one!! I even have a few of my ringlets back . So happy to be EDUCATED now, and on the 'road to recovery' !
Wow!! What a difference. Yay!
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:39 PM   #10
 
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Wow! Holy cow!!!!
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:16 PM   #11
 
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That's incredible! So excited for you
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:50 PM   #12
 
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Wow - what a turnaround with just ONE use of the right products! So happy for you, and all available at the drugstore too!
May I ask, which sulfate and silicone free L'Oreal shampoo and conditioner duo did you get, and which Shea Moisture deep conditioner did you get? If you can post links to the products that would be great as I think this would work on my kind of hair too(2c-3a mixed texture, colored but not bleached).
Good job - it will only get better from here on out - you have lovely waves and curls appearing already!
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:13 PM   #13
 
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Wow what a difference! I'm glad we could help. Your curls are still so pretty!!
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:29 PM   #14
 
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I say that is AMAZING!!!! Your hair is so shiny and beautiful!!! Those companies should hire you as a model to sell their products!!!
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:46 AM   #15
 
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We are hair twins! I've never seen a hair twin!! Mine has blond highlights thigh, not all over bleached, but processed pretty well. My curls literally look just likes yours.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:58 PM   #16
 
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Hi girls! Thanks for all the great compliments It really takes knowledge to know how to deal with curls, which is what set mine free!

caramix3a: Here are links to the products I've been using;
L'Oreal Sulfate Free Shampoo
L'Oreal Sulfate Free Conditioner
Shea Moisture Deep Treatment mask

Also read every article on this blog: Live Curly Live Free - Home I did this and my curls bounced right back, along with the right products.

For the record, I just gave myself a haircut, (which I've been doing since I was 15-I have serious salon phobia)
But this is what my hair looks like after about a week of using these products and techniques:



Still very healthy looking and full! Thanks again everyone!
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:19 PM   #17
 
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Yay!! See?? We told you they'd come back!!

Looking great! Such progress in such a short time!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
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Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:25 AM   #18
 
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I'm thinking something similar happened to me. I've been coloring my hair for 10 years and my curls are seriously lacking. When i was a baby i had fantastic curls but of course my straight haired mom wouldn't know about sulfates and silicones, so i don't think I've ever seen my real curls. I started cg yesterday and now waiting outside Sallys for them to open in a few minutes so i can get some treatments

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Old 12-19-2012, 02:34 PM   #19
 
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Oh WOW! So gorgeous! You're really pretty as well
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