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Old 12-09-2012, 08:27 PM   #1
 
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has anyone found her hair looks better after diffusing (upside down) compared to letting it dry naturally? I have looked at pics of myself when I was not CG and when I used to diffuse, and....I think my hair looked like it was styled better. Hard to believe, I know...anyone?
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:33 PM   #2
 
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My hair turns out much better when I diffuse than went I let it completely air dry.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:45 PM   #3
 
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Do you do anything special to it? I have been using roller jaw clips for curl and volume - but it falls back from my face instead of forward when I do this, and I dont think it is very flattering.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:56 PM   #4
 
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I have to diffuse part way. If not the weight of the water pulls out the curl, especially in front and on top.

I diffuse on low, using the warm and cool settings only. I do my ends, then go back to my roots. I'll go anywhere between 50-80% dry.

I do mine upright, tipping my head to the side. Upside down just makes my clumps fall apart - but if my hair were shorter it would likely work a lot better!
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:28 PM   #5
 
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I scrunch with CLU cloths then diffuse to about 80%. To diffuse: I have a big bowl diffuser with long fingers. I do my hair in 3-4 sections. I cup each section into the diffuser and hold it against my scalp allowing room for a little air flow at the roots. I dry each section for two minutes.

Then I clip the roots (with regular clips I have but I want those roller ones!!) and place my hair into a CLU cloth for a while. I've noticed the longer i leave the cloth on the better my hair is. Then I just let it air dry the rest of the way.

I *think* the reason it looks better is that it dries faster and I am able to keep my hands off it - if I allow it to air dry it takes forever and it gets touched a lot. I also think with air drying, the weight of the water pulls the curls as they dry. Diffusing gets much of it out before I let it down to air dry.
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Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:32 PM   #6
 
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My hair definitely looks better if I diffuse for a few minutes. I plop for about a half hour, clip top of hair and air dry for half hour, then diffuse and scrunch with my head upside down for a few minutes. Gives me more volume and lift.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:40 AM   #7
 
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My hair also looks better and more defined when I diffuse. It also takes a million years to air dry when I have products in it, and the products make my hair heavier when it's wet (which means loosened, stretched out curls), so I usually diffuse if I want it to look nice.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:16 AM   #8
 
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This morning I applied product, clipped up my hair, put my makeup on, removed the clips and diffused. I would say its a pretty major improvement, and does not leave me a slave to letting my hair air dry, which takes about 3 hours in the winter. So, I have shortened that time. In addition, my hair looks more full, and falls forward nicely. The only problem is when I do that, diffuse upside down for volume, my hair parts in the back, and I get what Nora Efron called an "Aruba", looks like a bald spot but is not. But, the clips went back in for a little re-touching and now it is fine. Its amazing how we keep refining our routines!
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:17 AM   #9
 
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My hair also looks better and more defined when I diffuse. It also takes a million years to air dry when I have products in it, and the products make my hair heavier when it's wet (which means loosened, stretched out curls), so I usually diffuse if I want it to look nice.
Hair twin! Are you fine, porous, long and dense, too??
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:22 AM   #10
 
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This morning I applied product, clipped up my hair, put my makeup on, removed the clips and diffused. I would say its a pretty major improvement, and does not leave me a slave to letting my hair air dry, which takes about 3 hours in the winter. So, I have shortened that time. In addition, my hair looks more full, and falls forward nicely. The only problem is when I do that, diffuse upside down for volume, my hair parts in the back, and I get what Nora Efron called an "Aruba", looks like a bald spot but is not. But, the clips went back in for a little re-touching and now it is fine. Its amazing how we keep refining our routines!
Yay for good hair days!!

I always plop for a little bit first - but my hair is pretty long. I have to get the excess moisture out, I think. Anytime I've tried just diffusing right away it has turned out flat and limp. :/

I want to try using a shammy under t-shirt and see if that helps scrunch out more moisture and speed drying time without wrecking clumps, etc. Maybe then I could go right to diffusing?

Anyway, glad it worked out for you!
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RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
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DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:26 AM   #11
 
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Jas and bookgirl, you may both be my hair twins I have normal porosity, but it seems like our hair behaves very similarly. Like the other posters have said, my hair also looks better when diffused. I get better root lift/curl and volume, and feel like my curls are springier. I was trying to do a no heat challenge, but now that the weather is colder, I can't stand to leave the house with a wet head and wait the 3-4 hours for my hair to dry. Since I'm only washing my hair 2-3 times a week, I figure if I diffuse 1-2 of those times, it's not a big deal. I use the pixie method for diffusing, as this helps eliminate any extra frizz that I would normally get, and I use a bowl diffuser. I've never tried clipping, so I may need to try this also. I diffused my hair yesterday, and today I'm having awesome 2nd day hair - makes me wonder if this might be a consistent thing with diffusing (better first day hair, better 2nd day hair).
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:58 AM   #12
 
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what was happening with me was my hair was becoming burdensome. Id have to get up earlier to allow it to dry naturally - crazy, huh? so I decided to try drying it. I use a hot sock and keep the dryer moving. I cant believe that it is terrible for the hair - after all, before I became CG, I washed daily, just llike I do now, and dried it with a dryer, and my hair was never in bad condition. I think its important to adapt our routines to fit our lives - not vice versa.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:05 PM   #13
 
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Well said, Myrna. I actually have to get up earlier when I diffuse, because when I just do a wash and go, I leave with my hair still wet. But I can see how this may not work if you are having to interact with clients/customers and don't want to do that with wet hair! But I wholeheartedly agree with what you said about our routines adapting to fit our lives - I don't think using the diffuser is nearly as harsh as say flat ironing or hot curlers, etc., and if it makes your life easier and your hair look better, then go for it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:25 PM   #14
 
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I have managed 3rd day hair with my current routine! 4th day was good but I did wear it up that day.

Myrna, I agree completely that we have to adapt to do what works best for us. I hate seeing blanket statements to do this or not do that when it comes to things like this. And I agree with the idea that diffusing is not extremely damaging - especially compared to flat irons and other direct high heat things. (The hot sock and moving it around probably even less so!) I also don't dry completely with the diffuser and I remove excess water first. I do notice my dryer is hotter by the end of section two than it was at the start so I use the cool shot intermittently.
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My routine:
Cleansing: DCNP, every 4-5 days (occasionally use CJ cleansers).
RO: CJSC, occasionally use JCDC
LI: KCKT or CJSL
Gel: KCCC, CJCIAB for 2nd day hair (sometimes third)

Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:29 PM   #15
 
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Definitely....I also cannot stand to have wet hair all on me. So I almost always diffuse for a bit, I try to let it air dry the rest of the way because I know it's healthier. But yeah, diffuser = better curls/clumps, more volume, less crunch, more definition compared to air dried.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:35 PM   #16
 
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Absolutely! If mod-cg works for you, do that. Strict CG doesn't work for everyone. Also, it's not like you can't EVER use cones or sulfates, or can't ever straighten your hair - just do so in moderation, and let your hair recover in between.

You may find with regular diffusing you need to add more moisture, and you may find no difference at all! You already do PT's, so maybe you up the LI, or do an extra DT, or and some oil... Or maybe your hair will respond just fine!

I say if it makes your routine/life better, DO IT! If you feel better bc it looks nicer, and your routine is easier, what's the problem?

We can't live for our hair!! (though we may need to remind ourselves of that sometimes! Lol!!)
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Do you apply product before or after you diffuse? I have been trying to go curly for about 5 months now and am getting VERY frustrated! If I use product on very wet hair - or even hair that has been scrunched with a tee shirt or paper towels - my hair is not completely dry for six to eight hours. By then it is time to go to bed and start over again. : ) ! I bought a hood dryer - but I find I have to semi dry under the dryer - then air dry - then scrunch - then shape - then spray with water or re-activator to get curls back into the final shape. My life has been taken over by this hair thing and I have yet to be successful. The whole point of going curly is because I had been blow drying and flat ironing my hair every day an spending about 45 min to an hour styling. I was hoping to lessen that time commitment. Not so much! I am also tired of spending LOTS of $ of products that don't really get the desired results. I have read all things CG - but I must say when I talk to people with great curls they often recommend products that are not CG - so I don't buy them. But I am ready to throw in the CG towel.
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