Any ideas for non-gel products that will give me hold?

I have combination of 3b hair with a canopy that's wavy to 3A. It's fine, with medium porosity. I have tried just about every kind of gel under the sun, but non of them work for me - seem to make my hair stringy. I'm trying to find something that will give me a little more hold, especially for the canopy. The top layer will curl right out of the shower and as it's drying, but as soon as I touch it or go out in the wind, it falls apart. Frizzing is sometimes a problem, but not always.

Right now I use Darcy's Pumpkin conditioner and CCCC-L. I tried the Deva styling cream yesterday and that was a bust. I have regular CCCC that I'm going to give a try again, though it hasn't worked for me in the past.

Any ideas?
i like tresemme conditioners. they really give me good definition and a nice bit of hold. i prefer regular moisturizing than the naturals version.
4a transitioning
Straight haired natural journey
Darcy's Botanicals makes a cream-gel you could try. Or you could try conditioner only styling and just sealing with an oil. If you already have the DB pumpkin seed condish, you could use that one, and then just seal with any kind of oil you like. Also, it could be an ingredients issue. I don't like to use traditional gels (full of chemicals), but I love natural jelly styling products. My favorites are KCCC and Uncle Funky's daughter curly magic. It could also be a technique issue. I prefer to apply my products to very wet hair, not damp, and I do a modified supersoaker to promote clumps. I also like to plop for better root curl, but in this cold, dry weather, I've also been diffusing some - this seems to help set my curls better before I enter the outdoor elements.
2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate

My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

CG since 12/29/2011
Darcy's Botanicals makes a cream-gel you could try. Or you could try conditioner only styling and just sealing with an oil. If you already have the DB pumpkin seed condish, you could use that one, and then just seal with any kind of oil you like. Also, it could be an ingredients issue. I don't like to use traditional gels (full of chemicals), but I love natural jelly styling products. My favorites are KCCC and Uncle Funky's daughter curly magic. It could also be a technique issue. I prefer to apply my products to very wet hair, not damp, and I do a modified supersoaker to promote clumps. I also like to plop for better root curl, but in this cold, dry weather, I've also been diffusing some - this seems to help set my curls better before I enter the outdoor elements.
Originally Posted by jsuzkelley

I've tried KCCC and it didn't work for me, but not Uncle Funky's - I'll look into it. I apply my products to wet hair also, though I've tried putting it on when my hair is damp and even when it's almost dry. Wet definitely works best. Plooping doesn't seem to make a difference one way or the other. I have started diffusing a bit to set the curls and it helps some. If I try it too long, though, I seem to blow out the curl and create frizz.

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