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greytmommy 12-20-2012 03:47 PM

winter wavie tips?
 
so the winter months have caused my waves to drop and for me to have some surface and crown frizz.

what do you recommend?

frizz is usually never an issue....

my current stylers is a few spritz of homemade salt solution, As I Am Curling Jelly (i also have KCCC and Noodle head curling mousse, but these are not giveing me good hold since winter hit), scrunch in. then scrunch in some LALSG, diffuse, then smather's w/ a bit more LALSG.

over the summer this worked great and I had nice curl definition that lasted all day.

Now I am seeing some frizz as the day goes on, and my curls are falling.

any winter tips for me?

Houseofcurls 12-20-2012 04:02 PM

Hey Grey! It's me, Crimson! :happy3:

greytmommy 12-27-2012 08:39 AM

bumping up.....

any tips for droopy waves now that winter hit???

Hope everyone is having a nice holiday!

claudine19 12-27-2012 09:16 AM

2b/c here: I stop using products in the winter, when it's truly cold and windy, and the humidity is low. I still get some wave, but far less than in the summer. I'm wondering if your unusual surface frizz has to do with scrunching in product in dry weather.

HTH

greytmommy 12-27-2012 10:00 AM

i didnt think of that! when I dont use any product (just leave in) my hair doesnt frizz at all. For the past few weeks I have just been wearing my hair up. My "lazy" side is almost striaght and the other has a slight S wave to it. But it isnt frizzy and feels soft and nice...

Maybe my hair isnt ment to be wavy in the winter...

claudine19 12-27-2012 10:17 AM

In your avvie, your hair looks to be about chin length; when mine is that short, it doesn't wave much in winter either. You need more length to get a good "S" curve going.

bookgirl 12-27-2012 10:22 AM

Does your hair like magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt)? It's been a godsend for me lately. I've been mixing/emulsifying AG re:coil curl activator with my gel in my hands before scrunching them in and have been getting great clumping and definition. I've also been doing touch ups on the weaker waves with got2be kinkier spray gel (in which mag sulfate is the second ingredient).

claudine19 12-27-2012 10:29 AM

Having just washed my hair, I tested whether scrunching alone caused any frizz issues; nope.

greytmommy 12-27-2012 11:38 AM

yes, my hair is just below my chin now...almost to my shoulder when striaght. Working on growing it out (it was a pixie cut before!!)

My hair LOOOVES Mag sulfate. I have not tried ReCoil. i will look into that as well as the Got2beKinkier spray...

sheilacurl 12-27-2012 12:41 PM

What about a hit of protein? I know everyone says to slow down with protein treatments in the winter time, but it might perk your curls back up. Have you been doing deep treatments religiously? Those definitely help with frizz. I'm a fine, wavy too :D A lot of people are sealing with oil on top of their leave-in and under their gels to seal in the moisture that the low dews steal from us in the winter time. hth

claudine19 12-27-2012 12:43 PM

I've never understood the "sealing with oil strategy" for fine hair. Doesn't it just weigh your hair down? I have had no luck at all with this method.

greytmommy 12-27-2012 01:09 PM

i PT about every 10 days or so.
I dont really DT.... whoops. I prefer to do a homemade one and havent really found one I like. Got a recipe to recommend??

sealing might work....my hair is fine, so I always worry about weighing it down. I have coconut oil or sunflower oil I can use....

sheilacurl 12-27-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by claudine19 (Post 2092242)
I've never understood the "sealing with oil strategy" for fine hair. Doesn't it just weigh your hair down? I have had no luck at all with this method.

Maybe someone who does it can chyme in? (Jas76 :D?) Some fine and porous curlies swear by it. I'm going to try it this summer when I can't keep humidity out of my hair.

claudine19 12-27-2012 01:25 PM

Mine just goes immediately gross.

sheilacurl 12-27-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by greytmommy (Post 2092251)
...Got a recipe to recommend??

No, sorry I don't have a recipe to recommend :sad1:
Some curlies add oil to their regular conditioner? Sorry I keep going on about oil :tongue10: Here are some more recipes to try though.

jsuzkelley 12-27-2012 02:41 PM

Hi greytmommy :)

I was just reading your original post, and wondering if glycerin could be causing your frizz. I have the AIA curling jelly, and I had to stop using it once the dews dropped below 20, as the glycerin would dry my hair out over the course of the day and result in frizz. My go to jelly styler right now has been Uncle Funky's Daughter curly magic - although I also still keep KCCC and SS CEJ in my rotation. These are all glycerin free.

As far as sealing - I have fine hair, and this is a must for me in the winter if I want to keep moisture in and reduce all those tangles I get at the nape of my neck from wearing sweaters, scarves, etc. I'm actually following the LOC method - leave in, oil, cream - and it is really helping my moisture level. I like to seal with lighter oils, like grapeseed, apricot kernal, or sweet almond. I also have EO serum, which is a blend of oils, but is not too heavy. I love coconut oil in my products, or as a pre-poo, but it is too heavy for me to seal with.

As far as volume is concerned - I've just decided to diffuse some rather than 100% air dry (I don't do this every time I wash - too lazy - but I do diffuse when I want my hair to look especially nice). This helps add some spring and volume to my curls, and keeps me from heading out the door with a wet head in the cold weather. I still plop after apply my products (maybe about 15 min?) then diffuse until my hair is about 80% dry. Makes such a difference for me.

Hopefully something here works for you - and I'm keeping my eye on this thread for other suggestions in the battle against limp hair!

claudine19 12-27-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sheilacurl (Post 2092262)
Quote:

Originally Posted by greytmommy (Post 2092251)
...Got a recipe to recommend??

No, sorry I don't have a recipe to recommend :sad1:
Some curlies add oil to their regular conditioner? Sorry I keep going on about oil :tongue10: Here are some more recipes to try though.

Hey, if it works for you, go for it! I've tried it at various times, while my hair was at varying lengths, and it's always a disaster.

The variety we all experience is what makes things interesting......and maddening (imo).

Jas76 12-28-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sheilacurl (Post 2092253)
Quote:

Originally Posted by claudine19 (Post 2092242)
I've never understood the "sealing with oil strategy" for fine hair. Doesn't it just weigh your hair down? I have had no luck at all with this method.

Maybe someone who does it can chyme in? (Jas76 :D?) Some fine and porous curlies swear by it. I'm going to try it this summer when I can't keep humidity out of my hair.

Hello! Did someone say my name?? ;)

I never "bought" the sealing thing until one day I tried it on a whim - and it worked!

Here's the thing, tho. For me, I CANNOT use EVOO or EVCO, bc both penetrate the hair shaft, and therefore add weight and leave me a little greasy. (I can only use EVCO in the warmer months, when it will stay liquidy, anyhow. But I use either as a DT or pre-poo year round, tho.)

For natural oils, jojoba has worked well. I also have used SM Elixir as a sealer and a refresher. I have yet to try Grapeseed oil as a sealer, but its wonderful as a refresher.

But my all-time HG sealer, year round but especially in the summer, is mineral oil. I was EXTREMELY skeptical, but again tried it on a whim after reading a couple recent articles on it on NC.

It was PERFECTION!! Kept the humidity out of my hair, and holds moisture in well, too!

Jas76 12-28-2012 01:07 PM

Oh, just to add - some add oil to their shampoo, which I have found go work very well, too.

I put EVOO in my RO at times, too. It makes it a nice DT that way!

I had always thought oil would weigh down my fine porous hair - and it can. But if you find the right type of oils and use them in the right ways, it can be one of your best allies!

sheilacurl 12-28-2012 01:58 PM

Thanks for all of your great advice, Jas, you are the best! :occasion5:


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