winter wavie tips?

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so the winter months have caused my waves to drop and for me to have some surface and crown frizz.

what do you recommend?

frizz is usually never an issue....

my current stylers is a few spritz of homemade salt solution, As I Am Curling Jelly (i also have KCCC and Noodle head curling mousse, but these are not giveing me good hold since winter hit), scrunch in. then scrunch in some LALSG, diffuse, then smather's w/ a bit more LALSG.

over the summer this worked great and I had nice curl definition that lasted all day.

Now I am seeing some frizz as the day goes on, and my curls are falling.

any winter tips for me?
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Hair type: 2a/2b, normal/high porosity, fine, normal density
Lo: Organix Coconut water shampoo
Co: Suave Naturals, V05 kiwi lime
RO: Loreal Total Care
LI: KCKT, V05
Style: AIA Curling Jelly, KCCC, Noodle head curling mouse, LALSG, AG Re:Coil
Methods: icequeen, scrunch n pump, smathers, diffusing

Currently dealing with learning how to style shorter wavy hair...
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Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
bumping up.....

any tips for droopy waves now that winter hit???

Hope everyone is having a nice holiday!
CG since 6/2012

Hair type: 2a/2b, normal/high porosity, fine, normal density
Lo: Organix Coconut water shampoo
Co: Suave Naturals, V05 kiwi lime
RO: Loreal Total Care
LI: KCKT, V05
Style: AIA Curling Jelly, KCCC, Noodle head curling mouse, LALSG, AG Re:Coil
Methods: icequeen, scrunch n pump, smathers, diffusing

Currently dealing with learning how to style shorter wavy hair...
2b/c here: I stop using products in the winter, when it's truly cold and windy, and the humidity is low. I still get some wave, but far less than in the summer. I'm wondering if your unusual surface frizz has to do with scrunching in product in dry weather.

HTH

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i didnt think of that! when I dont use any product (just leave in) my hair doesnt frizz at all. For the past few weeks I have just been wearing my hair up. My "lazy" side is almost striaght and the other has a slight S wave to it. But it isnt frizzy and feels soft and nice...

Maybe my hair isnt ment to be wavy in the winter...
CG since 6/2012

Hair type: 2a/2b, normal/high porosity, fine, normal density
Lo: Organix Coconut water shampoo
Co: Suave Naturals, V05 kiwi lime
RO: Loreal Total Care
LI: KCKT, V05
Style: AIA Curling Jelly, KCCC, Noodle head curling mouse, LALSG, AG Re:Coil
Methods: icequeen, scrunch n pump, smathers, diffusing

Currently dealing with learning how to style shorter wavy hair...
In your avvie, your hair looks to be about chin length; when mine is that short, it doesn't wave much in winter either. You need more length to get a good "S" curve going.

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Does your hair like magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt)? It's been a godsend for me lately. I've been mixing/emulsifying AG re:coil curl activator with my gel in my hands before scrunching them in and have been getting great clumping and definition. I've also been doing touch ups on the weaker waves with got2be kinkier spray gel (in which mag sulfate is the second ingredient).
2c, fine, extremely dense, color-treated, high porosity.

CG since 10/12
Having just washed my hair, I tested whether scrunching alone caused any frizz issues; nope.

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yes, my hair is just below my chin now...almost to my shoulder when striaght. Working on growing it out (it was a pixie cut before!!)

My hair LOOOVES Mag sulfate. I have not tried ReCoil. i will look into that as well as the Got2beKinkier spray...
CG since 6/2012

Hair type: 2a/2b, normal/high porosity, fine, normal density
Lo: Organix Coconut water shampoo
Co: Suave Naturals, V05 kiwi lime
RO: Loreal Total Care
LI: KCKT, V05
Style: AIA Curling Jelly, KCCC, Noodle head curling mouse, LALSG, AG Re:Coil
Methods: icequeen, scrunch n pump, smathers, diffusing

Currently dealing with learning how to style shorter wavy hair...
What about a hit of protein? I know everyone says to slow down with protein treatments in the winter time, but it might perk your curls back up. Have you been doing deep treatments religiously? Those definitely help with frizz. I'm a fine, wavy too A lot of people are sealing with oil on top of their leave-in and under their gels to seal in the moisture that the low dews steal from us in the winter time. hth
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Rinse Outs: SS:PRT, CJ Repair Me, CJ Argan
Detangler: KCKT
Leave-in: CJ Repair me
Stylers: UFDCM, BRHG
Refreshers: Batiste (dry shampoo) on the roots & UFDCM everywhere else

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I've never understood the "sealing with oil strategy" for fine hair. Doesn't it just weigh your hair down? I have had no luck at all with this method.

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i PT about every 10 days or so.
I dont really DT.... whoops. I prefer to do a homemade one and havent really found one I like. Got a recipe to recommend??

sealing might work....my hair is fine, so I always worry about weighing it down. I have coconut oil or sunflower oil I can use....
CG since 6/2012

Hair type: 2a/2b, normal/high porosity, fine, normal density
Lo: Organix Coconut water shampoo
Co: Suave Naturals, V05 kiwi lime
RO: Loreal Total Care
LI: KCKT, V05
Style: AIA Curling Jelly, KCCC, Noodle head curling mouse, LALSG, AG Re:Coil
Methods: icequeen, scrunch n pump, smathers, diffusing

Currently dealing with learning how to style shorter wavy hair...
I've never understood the "sealing with oil strategy" for fine hair. Doesn't it just weigh your hair down? I have had no luck at all with this method.
Originally Posted by claudine19
Maybe someone who does it can chyme in? (Jas76 ?) Some fine and porous curlies swear by it. I'm going to try it this summer when I can't keep humidity out of my hair.

Last edited by sheilacurl; 12-27-2012 at 01:34 PM.
Mine just goes immediately gross.
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...Got a recipe to recommend??
Originally Posted by greytmommy
No, sorry I don't have a recipe to recommend
Some curlies add oil to their regular conditioner? Sorry I keep going on about oil Here are some more recipes to try though.
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Hi greytmommy

I was just reading your original post, and wondering if glycerin could be causing your frizz. I have the AIA curling jelly, and I had to stop using it once the dews dropped below 20, as the glycerin would dry my hair out over the course of the day and result in frizz. My go to jelly styler right now has been Uncle Funky's Daughter curly magic - although I also still keep KCCC and SS CEJ in my rotation. These are all glycerin free.

As far as sealing - I have fine hair, and this is a must for me in the winter if I want to keep moisture in and reduce all those tangles I get at the nape of my neck from wearing sweaters, scarves, etc. I'm actually following the LOC method - leave in, oil, cream - and it is really helping my moisture level. I like to seal with lighter oils, like grapeseed, apricot kernal, or sweet almond. I also have EO serum, which is a blend of oils, but is not too heavy. I love coconut oil in my products, or as a pre-poo, but it is too heavy for me to seal with.

As far as volume is concerned - I've just decided to diffuse some rather than 100% air dry (I don't do this every time I wash - too lazy - but I do diffuse when I want my hair to look especially nice). This helps add some spring and volume to my curls, and keeps me from heading out the door with a wet head in the cold weather. I still plop after apply my products (maybe about 15 min?) then diffuse until my hair is about 80% dry. Makes such a difference for me.

Hopefully something here works for you - and I'm keeping my eye on this thread for other suggestions in the battle against limp hair!
2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate

My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

CG since 12/29/2011
...Got a recipe to recommend??
Originally Posted by greytmommy
No, sorry I don't have a recipe to recommend
Some curlies add oil to their regular conditioner? Sorry I keep going on about oil Here are some more recipes to try though.
Originally Posted by sheilacurl
Hey, if it works for you, go for it! I've tried it at various times, while my hair was at varying lengths, and it's always a disaster.

The variety we all experience is what makes things interesting......and maddening (imo).
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I've never understood the "sealing with oil strategy" for fine hair. Doesn't it just weigh your hair down? I have had no luck at all with this method.
Originally Posted by claudine19
Maybe someone who does it can chyme in? (Jas76 ?) Some fine and porous curlies swear by it. I'm going to try it this summer when I can't keep humidity out of my hair.
Originally Posted by sheilacurl
Hello! Did someone say my name??

I never "bought" the sealing thing until one day I tried it on a whim - and it worked!

Here's the thing, tho. For me, I CANNOT use EVOO or EVCO, bc both penetrate the hair shaft, and therefore add weight and leave me a little greasy. (I can only use EVCO in the warmer months, when it will stay liquidy, anyhow. But I use either as a DT or pre-poo year round, tho.)

For natural oils, jojoba has worked well. I also have used SM Elixir as a sealer and a refresher. I have yet to try Grapeseed oil as a sealer, but its wonderful as a refresher.

But my all-time HG sealer, year round but especially in the summer, is mineral oil. I was EXTREMELY skeptical, but again tried it on a whim after reading a couple recent articles on it on NC.

It was PERFECTION!! Kept the humidity out of my hair, and holds moisture in well, too!
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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Oh, just to add - some add oil to their shampoo, which I have found go work very well, too.

I put EVOO in my RO at times, too. It makes it a nice DT that way!

I had always thought oil would weigh down my fine porous hair - and it can. But if you find the right type of oils and use them in the right ways, it can be one of your best allies!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Thanks for all of your great advice, Jas, you are the best!

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