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Old 12-21-2012, 08:23 AM   #1
 
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Default Experiment - new FSG, great results so far!

Holy curls!!! So my hair LOOOOOVES gelatin. It likes FSG, too. Years and years ago I used some homemade gelatin hair gel. You made it with 3 cups of water instead of 2, if I recall. It was my friend's - she did synchro swimming, and they use gelatin during their performances.

So I got to thinking... If my hair loves FSG, and loves gelatin, why not do a half and half?

So I did a quadruple batch of FSG, added a whole pack of gelatin, and then all my additives. (I can give you the whole process/recipe if anyone wants it - I won't bore you with it now!)

When I was done, I had probably 30oz of the stuff. (used two full bottles of water.). I poured it into 3 8oz Ball freezer jars, and then the remainder into my usual FSG dispenser (an old dish soap squeeze bottle.)

My hair is still plopping right now, but let me just say, MAJOR BOING when I put the stuff in!!

Now... It remains to be seen if this is at all drying, or too crunchy, etc. But the initial results look positive!!!!

If the results aren't great, my plan is to put it all back into the pot and try adding a little more pure FSG to balance it out.

Wish me luck!!!
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:30 AM   #2
 
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Recipe please??
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:19 AM   #3
 
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Ok!

So I typically estimate measurements, especially with additives... Just FYI.

I put 1.5 cups of water into the pot, and added a green tea bag. (may or may not use that next time. It colors the gel.)

Then I put in two tbs of seeds.

I strain that into a bowl with a pour spout.

I then did another 1-1.5cups of water, and use the same seeds from the strainer. (no tea this time.) While that's boiling, I mixed some cool water (maybe 1/3 cup?) with 1.5 tsp corn starch and one packet of gelatin.

I strained into the bowl, and make a 3rd batch of plain FSG, stained that, then pour all the mixture back into the pot.

(at this point I've used two full bottles of water, apx 34oz of water - but plenty of evaporation.)

I stir in the starch and gelatin mixture until well desolved.

I turn down the heat and add the following: (again all apx measurements)

2 tsp Epsom salt
2 tbs ACV (note - I think I added too much)
2tsp jojoba oil (note - this won't mix well, and you'll have to shake your mixture before use.)
2 tsp honey

I pour it all back into the bowl, and add 1/2c AVG, and whisked. (you may have to whisk while adding the other additives, too. I did.)

Then I poured it into the freezer jars.

I was afraid the gelatin would not set at all, but by morning it had! It was a nice gel/jelly texture. I put 3 of the freezer jars in the freezer, and poured the 4th into the squeeze bottle. Actually, I used it out of the jar this morning, and then poured it into the squeeze bottle when runnier.

Straight from the fridge it's a little firmer. Not full out jello, by any means, but firmer. After my shower was done and it had warmed slightly it was a little more runny. Still not as much as plain FSG, but close.

Like I said, I'll see how this turns out, and once I do, I'll adjust the recipe if needed! Add a batch of plain FSG, I think. Maybe some LI.

Again, all additive measurements are estimated, and can be left out or increased/decreased to your preference!

Just let me know if you have any questions!


UPDATE:

So, I went ahead and added some FSG, and about a tbs of condish. The gel had almost too much hold, but that might have just been bc I used the normal amount of hard hold gel over it, and I might not have needed that much. I could have tried it as is again tomorrow and experimented, but like I said before, I think I added too much ACV before.

I like the way my hair turned out, tho! And I think it would have been even better if I had been better with my technique. (I was rushed, and then ended up leaving my plop on too long.)

I'm anxious to see if the gelatin still sets up now with the added FSG, but I think it will. If not, I put it all back in the pot and add a little more gelatin! Lol!!

So far I'm happy, tho!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing

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Old 12-21-2012, 04:02 PM   #4
 
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Ok!

So I typically estimate measurements, especially with additives... Just FYI.

I put 1.5 cups of water into the pot, and added a green tea bag. (may or may not use that next time. It colors the gel.)

Then I put in two tbs of seeds.

I strain that into a bowl with a pour spout.

I then did another 1-1.5cups of water, and use the same seeds from the strainer. (no tea this time.) While that's boiling, I mixed some cool water (maybe 1/3 cup?) with 1.5 tsp corn starch and one packet of gelatin.

I strained into the bowl, and make a 3rd batch of plain FSG, stained that, then pour all the mixture back into the pot.

(at this point I've used two full bottles of water, apx 34oz of water - but plenty of evaporation.)

I stir in the starch and gelatin mixture until well desolved.

I turn down the heat and add the following: (again all apx measurements)

2 tsp Epsom salt
2 tbs ACV (note - I think I added too much)
2tsp jojoba oil (note - this won't mix well, and you'll have to shake your mixture before use.)
2 tsp honey

I pour it all back into the bowl, and add 1/2c AVG, and whisked. (you may have to whisk while adding the other additives, too. I did.)

Then I poured it into the freezer jars.

I was afraid the gelatin would not set at all, but by morning it had! It was a nice gel/jelly texture. I put 3 of the freezer jars in the freezer, and poured the 4th into the squeeze bottle. Actually, I used it out of the jar this morning, and then poured it into the squeeze bottle when runnier.

Straight from the fridge it's a little firmer. Not full out jello, by any means, but firmer. After my shower was done and it had warmed slightly it was a little more runny. Still not as much as plain FSG, but close.

Like I said, I'll see how this turns out, and once I do, I'll adjust the recipe if needed! Add a batch of plain FSG, I think. Maybe some LI.

Again, all additive measurements are estimated, and can be left out or increased/decreased to your preference!

Just let me know if you have any questions!


UPDATE:

So, I went ahead and added some FSG, and about a tbs of condish. The gel had almost too much hold, but that might have just been bc I used the normal amount of hard hold gel over it, and I might not have needed that much. I could have tried it as is again tomorrow and experimented, but like I said before, I think I added too much ACV before.

I like the way my hair turned out, tho! And I think it would have been even better if I had been better with my technique. (I was rushed, and then ended up leaving my plop on too long.)

I'm anxious to see if the gelatin still sets up now with the added FSG, but I think it will. If not, I put it all back in the pot and add a little more gelatin! Lol!!

So far I'm happy, tho!
Thanks for sharing!!! I will try a small batch first and then go from there.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:09 PM   #5
 
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Yeah, do a double batch of FSG, do half the packet of gelatin, and the rest of it just add and adjust as preferred!

Let me know what you think!!

Obviously your hair must like gelatin/protein!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:28 PM   #6
 
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2nd day with this new FSG - still good so far! We'll see how it survives the day - and 2nd day!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:25 PM   #7
 
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Interesting!! Will try this.
I have just discovered fsg and my hair loves it!!
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:42 PM   #8
 
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FCG is the best light gel i have ever tried. And believe me when i say i have tried many. Defines my 3c curls and dont get crunchy. And homemade so its CHEAP!! Perfect
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:35 PM   #9
 
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Wht exactly does the gelatin do?
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:52 AM   #10
 
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Gonna make this today! thanks for sharing!
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