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waterlily716 01-04-2013 11:50 AM

How to tell if frozen/refrigerated henna has gone bad...?
 
Hello all! :) I figured I would post this here instead of the color forum, as it usually gets more noticed. I am also hoping poemaxx will come give me more henna advice. :)

Anywhoodles, I did a henna color on my hair a little over two months ago. My light brown roots are coming in and I should really touch them up soon. My question is how can you tell whether a henna mixture has gone bad? When I hennaed my hair the first time I mixed up way too much (from internet instructions) so I have enough to probably do my whole head if it hasn't gone bad.

I left this henna sitting around for about a week, because I wanted to henna my friends hair too. (In hindsight I should have refrigerated it. :P) Then I put it in the freezer for a good while. It probably thawed during my 7 hour drive back home from college, but I put it in the freezer again after that. It looks really black now and I don't think it's green anymore. I have more henna powder I can mix up, but do you think I should use the one I have in the freezer or not?

atx_eve 01-04-2013 01:13 PM

oh i've used henna that's been in the freezer for like 2 months *___* yeah the color changed to a verrrry deep green/almost black, but i didn't experience any problems with it.

CurlyIndianGirl 01-04-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by waterlily716 (Post 2096401)
Hello all! :) I figured I would post this here instead of the color forum, as it usually gets more noticed. I am also hoping poemaxx will come give me more henna advice. :)

Anywhoodles, I did a henna color on my hair a little over two months ago. My light brown roots are coming in and I should really touch them up soon. My question is how can you tell whether a henna mixture has gone bad? When I hennaed my hair the first time I mixed up way too much (from internet instructions) so I have enough to probably do my whole head if it hasn't gone bad.

I left this henna sitting around for about a week, because I wanted to henna my friends hair too. (In hindsight I should have refrigerated it. :P) Then I put it in the freezer for a good while. It probably thawed during my 7 hour drive back home from college, but I put it in the freezer again after that. It looks really black now and I don't think it's green anymore. I have more henna powder I can mix up, but do you think I should use the one I have in the freezer or not?

I am a traditional Indian girl who used to henna tatto my hands all the time. so here goes my experience.

Henna turns black when kept unused,its natural and doesnt mean it has gone bad. As far as you dont see fungus forming on top of that it is in good shape.

if you mix it really well, it should come back with a dark green color again.you can add warm water to it to bring it back to life. Also another quick test you can do is to apply just a tint little bit of henna on the under area of your foot and you can see the orange color once you remove it in couple minutes.Hope this helps

Kilajo 01-04-2013 04:29 PM

Thanks for the info CurlyIndianGirl! I plan to henna soon, and was wondering the same thing.

waterlily716 01-05-2013 01:18 AM

Thanks so much! I will go ahead and use it then. :)

And thanks for the tips CurlyIndianGirl. My mixture is kinda liquidy, so I guess see how it works without warm water first.

waterlily716 01-07-2013 07:43 PM

Just wanted to say that I henna'd my hair the other day and it turned out great! My hair's all red again. I mixed warm conditioner and a bunch of ginger in the henna for smell. Thanks!

I *almost* used up all the stuff I mixed from my first batch, but I think I have enough left for a root touch up. However I'm going abroad in Europe for 6 months and don't fancy taking liquid henna with me through the airport... Do you guys know how long henna lasts in a freezer? I heard 6 months, but perhaps longer?

curlypriya 01-07-2013 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by waterlily716 (Post 2097834)
Just wanted to say that I henna'd my hair the other day and it turned out great! My hair's all red again. I mixed warm conditioner and a bunch of ginger in the henna for smell. Thanks!

I *almost* used up all the stuff I mixed from my first batch, but I think I have enough left for a root touch up. However I'm going abroad in Europe for 6 months and don't fancy taking liquid henna with me through the airport... Do you guys know how long henna lasts in a freezer? I heard 6 months, but perhaps longer?

I am Indian too who is a regular user of henna.. Luv it luv it luv it.. It lasts for more than 8 months based on my own experience

Korkscrew 01-08-2013 02:55 AM

One thing I do w/my henna is place it in a sealed plastic zip lock bag and label it with an expiration date, calculated one year from when I received it. Apparently henna powder that's been exposed to the air and/or will last at least one year if kept frozen. Unopened and frozen, henna can last some number of years (uncertain how many).

Got this info from hennaforhair.com

waterlily716 01-09-2013 03:32 PM

Thanks. :) So it lasts longer than 6 months. I will keep the henna in my home fridge then and use it when I come back for a touch up.

Korkscrew 01-09-2013 06:04 PM

You're probably better off freezing it. At the aforementioned website they recommend only refrigerating it briefly (up to 24 hr.s). I think the fridge speeds up henna's demise relative to freezing. The fridge storage thing might merit further research though, just in case the ppl at hennaforhair are wrong.

One thing to consider too (in case you don't know): a lot of people report that henna mixtures that have been frozen produce a stronger (deeper red) dye. I assume this applies to henna mixtures that oxidized long enough for dye release. ... Just something to consider in case you want to keep your current shade of red w/out it darkening.

waterlily716 01-12-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Korkscrew (Post 2099052)
You're probably better off freezing it. At the aforementioned website they recommend only refrigerating it briefly (up to 24 hr.s). I think the fridge speeds up henna's demise relative to freezing. The fridge storage thing might merit further research though, just in case the ppl at hennaforhair are wrong.

One thing to consider too (in case you don't know): a lot of people report that henna mixtures that have been frozen produce a stronger (deeper red) dye. I assume this applies to henna mixtures that oxidized long enough for dye release. ... Just something to consider in case you want to keep your current shade of red w/out it darkening.

Oops. I meant to type freeze. It's sitting in my freezer right now. All this henna stuff is very word of mouth on the internet, but every generally seems to be right. It would be nice if there seems to be more research.

So far my new henna color (done with henna that was frozen for 2 months) seems very similar to the old one. I did want a richer, darker color though. It's very hard for me to tell, but it seems similar to me. :) After this I am planning on just doing root touch ups, so hopefully my head will stay at this darkness of red.

Korkscrew 01-12-2013 05:56 AM

Interesting that your months old frozen henna seems to give you the same color ... that's good to know :)

Yeah I agree about the need for more reliable info on henna. As far as darkening your color, my understanding is you can achieve that one of two ways (according to hennaforhair.com):

1. Doing multiple henna treatments over the same hair. Drawback: possible curl loosening or loss of curl. I suppose that's why you only want to do your roots at this point?

2. Using a henna with a high percentage of lawsone. The higher the lawsone content, the deeper the red, and the less orange/brassy the outcome.

If, for example, you wish to color your roots something in the neighborhood of a rich auburn/burgundy (for medium to dark brown roots), you could use henna w/a lawsone content of about 2.6 or higher and get that richer, darker color from just one application. Red Raj, for example (via Henna Sooq) has 3.2 and Raj Twilight has 2.6 (from mehandi.com / Hennaforhair). I actually am aiming for a lighter color on my roots so I can choose something like Jamila henna or Punjabi (lawsone lower than 2.0) for the future, though gray coverage might be iffy. For now, I'm just diluting my Twilight Raj w/conditioner instead, which will save me money and work effectively (as reflected in strand test outcome). ... Each time I do my roots, I'm adding 25% amla to my mixture to help maintain the tightness of my curls. Amla may be worth trying if you don't want your curls loosened.


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