CurlTalk

CurlTalk (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/)
-   General Discussion about Curly Hair (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/)
-   -   Hair is always dry (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/153650-hair-always-dry.html)

lovely0706 01-07-2013 01:35 PM

Hair is always dry
 
I have been natural for over 5 years and I have asked this question in other places with little help.
My hair is always dry no matter what do and at this point I have no idea what to do. You name it I have tried it as far as products go and I have tried every natural hair technique out there. I do hot oil treatment and deep condition and neither does anything,My hair is just naturally dry and nothing works at all. It is so bad I am getting to the point where I think there maybe some kind of under lying medical issue. I know about porosity, protein moisture balance, water based moisturizers than sealing, baggying, cream moisturizers, Sulfates, cones, alcohols, everything and nothing works. :angry1:
It got so bad I had to cut all my hair of again because even though I would deep condition weekly, detangle in sections only when conditioner was in my hair, moisturize and seal in the morning and at night, and never used heat my hair was upper damaged for the dryness.

Ericachristina 01-07-2013 04:01 PM

If you have tried everything and absolutely nothing is working then maybe it is an underlying medical issue, maybe you could have a talk with your doctor and she may refer you to someone else.
Certain medical conditions such as malnutrition, hypothyroidism, Menkes syndrome, and some illnesses that affect your hormone levels or unbalanced hormone levels on their own can cause very dry brittle hair. If it is a becoming a big problem and you have to keep cutting your hair I would get checked out.

Corrina777 01-07-2013 04:27 PM

Do you k ow your hair properties (texture, porosity, etc)? Have you tried protein? If your hair is damaged or naturally higher in porosity you might get better results by adding some protein. The protein will fill in some of the porous gaps and can help the moisture take better.

adthomas 01-07-2013 04:47 PM

I think sometimes it is the difficult task of finding what works for your hair. There are many conditioners and moisturizers that do nothing for my hair. In fact I have never found a commercial dc my hair likes.

tycho19 01-07-2013 04:55 PM

Have you considered water quality? I have hard water and it is really drying on hair and skin. I've been using elucence moisture acidifying shampoo which happens to work really well in hard water. I follow with a good conditioner.

lovely0706 01-07-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrina777 (Post 2097737)
Do you k ow your hair properties (texture, porosity, etc)? Have you tried protein? If your hair is damaged or naturally higher in porosity you might get better results by adding some protein. The protein will fill in some of the porous gaps and can help the moisture take better.

I have tried protein and its really doesn't do anything. My hair is different textures on different parts of my head. And idk anymore about it's porosity because it is always so dry and gets damaged from the dryness.

lovely0706 01-07-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycho19 (Post 2097749)
Have you considered water quality? I have hard water and it is really drying on hair and skin. I've been using elucence moisture acidifying shampoo which happens to work really well in hard water. I follow with a good conditioner.

I thought that it was that maybe but I used bottled water for a while and my hair was still dry

adthomas 01-07-2013 07:57 PM

How does your hair repond to water? Does it soak it up or does it take awhile to become wet? I'm lp so I have to take steps to get my hair to absorb moisture or products will just sit on my hair. Also i'm very prone to buildup and my hair won't absorb when there's buildup.

Can you describe what your hair feels like? That will usually tell you if you have too much or too little protein.

lovely0706 01-08-2013 12:18 PM

The edges behind my ears is really coarse, the hair below my crown is really smooth, and the rest is average it is just all really dry all the time. My hair does not take a long time to get wet it takes about maybe 10-15 seconds if I am in the shower. My hair feels soft when water is in it BUT no matter how I seal or moisturize if water alone hits my hair at all my hair just feels dry water of any kind I have also tried bottled water. I have tried protein treatments most do nothing at all for my hair I might as well have not put anything in my hair. Most light protein conditioners make my hair hard though

Sandi 01-08-2013 09:15 PM

You say you know your hair properties. Can you list them for us so we can better understand your problem? I'm guessing that you have high porosity, based on the chronic dryness when your hair is out of water, but I could be wrong.

If it is high porosity, you'll need to find a better sealant and possibly moisturizer. What have you been using? A lot of high-po's use both leave-in and an additional sealing layer (often oil) to keep in the moisture.

In addition, please do tell us your product routine....

lovely0706 01-09-2013 12:27 AM

I have used and tried way to many products to name them all lol
I use castor oil and olive oil for sealing and right now I use Shea moisture as a moisturizer. I though I was high porosity for a while but my hair seem to not like protein light protein makes my hair dry and hard protein does nothing at all.

My hair seems to be low porosity but IDK anymore it acts so funny all the time
It is coarser behind my ears and smoother on the rest
its 4A
My scalp gets really dry but It is not flaky
It seems to like and dislike water

I usually wash with black soap
condition with ABHR( it works for me BUT it never stays soft the only conditioner I can say ever made any kid of positive difference at all)
then I use Shea moisture leave in and seal
That is what I do now but at this point it is just to get by nothing really makes a difference though

But the reason I am at the end of my rope is because I have tried everything and done everything I am suppose to do and people know it agree I should go see a doctor because I take such good care of my hair there is no reason for it to act the way it does for 5 + years.I even go to professional stylist and they are shocked by how dry my hair is even after deep conditioning and hot oil treatments. You name it I have tried it. I really wanna keep trying though and if it is not better within a year I am going to the doctor

Korkscrew 01-09-2013 01:36 AM

I wouldn't wait a year before getting a medical check up. I'd go right away so you can rule in or rule out a serious medical issue, or possibly just a medical issue that has a reasonably easy solution that can help your overall health (not just your hair health).

A few other thoughts in the meantime: noticed you didn't mention using a sulfate shampoo. What you describe sounds like it could easily be months of product build up that can only be remedied with the use of a good old fashioned sulfate shampoo (a clarifier). And since your hair still absorbs water easily, another possibility is hygral fatigue (too much moisture), in which case you might try wetting your hair much less frequently (including less frequent shampoo). Also, take inventory of any thermal or chemical treatments you've used on your hair. Cut those things out, or if you blow dry, do it w/a diffuser on the "warm" setting only.

Another thing is to assess how much fluid you are consuming daily. If needed, drink more water. Hydration of hair (and other appendages of the skin) happens from the inside out, not just from conditioning treatments. Also, if you live in a dry climate, try avoiding hair products w/humectants (like things w/glycerin or honey).

tycho19 01-09-2013 05:20 AM

I'm not sure what black soap is, but I think clarifying would help. Bred ken hair cleansing cream will remove product and mineral buildup. It also is low ph which will help the cuticle lie flat. Let the shampoo sit for five min before rinsing. Then apply a deep treatment.

tycho19 01-09-2013 05:20 AM

That should say Redken hair cleansing cream. Damn spell check

ChellzCurlz 01-09-2013 09:26 AM

I might have something that helps because I have extremely dry hair too. I drink plenty of water and I eat really healthy food and I couldn't figure out why my hair was sooo dry.

I accidentally stumbled upon my technique trying to DT my dry hair and realized once or twice a week wasn't cutting it. I was bagging my hair for hours and it would still be dry and of course after taking hours to completely dry my hair (LP) it felt like I over did the protein. I found two conditioners that seemed to help for a while but I had to constantly rotate them due to my hairs pickiness.

But what really helped and how I found this technique was because I was in a hurry and couldn't DT but my hair was so dry I had too. So I decided to do a "quick" DT in the shower, I co washed with tresseme naturals then I loaded my hair with GVPCB and put a ziplock bag over my hair and turn the shower up so it steams. I proceed with the rest of my shower. I also let the water hit the bag so the heat can open the hairs cuticles. When I was done I removed the bag and rinsed with cold water added a little bit of leave in and then sealed with oil on my ends. OMG did my hair completely feel and look so different after that I actually do this every time I shower now.

I did the leave in and oil before I tried a "quick" DT in the shower, it helped but not like this. HTH

kathymack 01-09-2013 12:15 PM

I use natural soap regularly to cleanse hair and scalp. I got a sample of black soap and found it VERY drying. So, that could be part of the issue.

Castor oil and olive oil are both "heavy" oils. If your hair is low porosity, it just may not be able to absorb these heavier oils. My hair doesn't care for straight oil/butter, but likes them in a well formulated product. My hair HATES castor oil, it makes it dry and greasy at the same time. It takes me a few shampoos with a strong surfactant to remove it. You may need to clarify and start with a clean slate.

BlackAngelPlayah 01-09-2013 12:28 PM

All these are great answers. I gave a hard look at that black soap. Lots of people say it dries their hair out. Maybe try something else.

I gave up on creamy moisturizers. They "work" a little, but leave my hair white, moist for a bit, then greasy and dry. I switched to- well I've always used it- curl activator for moisture. I just put it in after my wash, then add my styler on top. The activator keeps my ultra dry hair ultra moist for days. Between applications, I spritz with water and seal with vegetable oil.

Now, as my hair has gotten longer its not as easy as it use to be, but it's not so bad. I've been skimping on my conditioning due to laziness and I see a big difference. My hair is getting dryer. I NORMALLY condition over night and it makes a huge difference in my moisture level. But lately I've been just cowashing and out the door. SMH.

ANYWAY, I hope you can find something that works. Don't give up. Just keep trying. Curly hair is tricky, but worth the effort. :)

💮

lalapixie 01-09-2013 01:04 PM

Black soap seems way too harsh to wash with. Maybe try conditioner washing. Also, does your leave-in have humectants in it? Maybe try a regular humectant conditioner as a leave-in.

deena.bailar 01-09-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovely0706 (Post 2098568)
I usually wash with black soap
condition with ABHR( it works for me BUT it never stays soft the only conditioner I can say ever made any kid of positive difference at all)
then I use Shea moisture leave in and seal
That is what I do now but at this point it is just to get by nothing really makes a difference though

I would try co-washing. I haven't used black soap, but that could be a big contributor right there. Have you ever laid off the black soap for a couple of weeks to see what would happen? Also, sorry I don't know all the ingredients here, but I know that I have extreme dryness when I use products with silicones. My hair hates them. It will be soft and silky while wet and then SUPER dry once it dries. I would keep applying more and more conditioners (not realizing that the silicones in the conditioners were doing more harm than good) and the problem would just get worse.

Sorry if this is all stuff you've tried already...good luck!

lovely0706 01-09-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Korkscrew (Post 2098575)
I wouldn't wait a year before getting a medical check up. I'd go right away so you can rule in or rule out a serious medical issue, or possibly just a medical issue that has a reasonably easy solution that can help your overall health (not just your hair health).

A few other thoughts in the meantime: noticed you didn't mention using a sulfate shampoo. What you describe sounds like it could easily be months of product build up that can only be remedied with the use of a good old fashioned sulfate shampoo (a clarifier). And since your hair still absorbs water easily, another possibility is hygral fatigue (too much moisture), in which case you might try wetting your hair much less frequently (including less frequent shampoo). Also, take inventory of any thermal or chemical treatments you've used on your hair. Cut those things out, or if you blow dry, do it w/a diffuser on the "warm" setting only.

Another thing is to assess how much fluid you are consuming daily. If needed, drink more water. Hydration of hair (and other appendages of the skin) happens from the inside out, not just from conditioning treatments. Also, if you live in a dry climate, try avoiding hair products w/humectants (like things w/glycerin or honey).

I actually don't drink anything BUT water lol
and I use a salfate shampoo every once and a while when I need to but they just make my hair worse I really never put any heat in my hair and never use any chemicals at all


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:57 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2011 NaturallyCurly.com