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thisiscrazin 01-14-2013 09:42 PM

I'm a bit intimidated by CG
 
I really want to go CG, and have actually been gearing up to go completely product free (including shampoo, conditioner, and styling products), but I'm not sure my hair type will agree with that method. My hair is basically 2C/3A, low porosity, high density, and medium/fine width; and I recently cut it all off. My hair is cut in an A-line cut, but is very short; the longest layer hits the end of my ear lobe basically. I usually straighten my hair, but it always looks so fuzzy when I straighten it (it's nice and silky when it's longer, but tends to fuzz up a lot when it's shorter). The more I touch my curls the more they tend to frizz and humidity makes my entire head look fuzzy.

The cut I was given looks great when my hair is straight, but I feel like a clown when I let it go curly. I tend to pull it 1/2 up because I have no idea what to do with my bangs. With straight hair I usually part on the side and sweep my bangs behind my ear, but when my hair is curly my bangs are crazy and I have no idea what to do with them. My hair grows forward in the front so I never have the nice lay with my bangs that people with back growing hair do. Does that make any sense at all? I will post a pic of my crazy curls tomorrow so you have an idea of what I'm talking about. Basically what I'm looking for is advice on styling super short curly hair. And is it too crazy to go completely product free? If I do end up using a mousse will it wash out of my hair without the use of shampoo or conditioner?

Thanks in advance!

Aqua_Lily 01-14-2013 10:02 PM

Yes, don't worry, if your mousse is CG friendly it will wash out without any problem.

If the humidity in your area is high you might want to avoid glycerin, pathenol, sorbitol and honey especially in your leave in / styling products. Really reduced my frizz.

Just go for it! ;) Your hair won't fall off your head or anything, in fact a normal shampoo method is FAR more damaging than CG. Just give it a try, see if it works out for you for a couple of weeks (it most likely will, it does for most people. Oh and remember for the first 2 to 6 weeks your hair might look bad and feel greasy (right now your hair is used to the fact that it constantly gets stripped dry by shampoo), but after that your hair will be totally beautiful :D). If you're still not entirely convinced after 6 weeks, adjust your routine a bit, expiriment :)

Good luck!!! :)

Morgan_Adcock 01-15-2013 02:56 PM

Actually, going completely product free isn't CG. You can water wash, conditioner wash, or low-poo; but you should apply a silicone free conditioner, and (also silicone free) styling product.

I can't recommend the book Curly Girl: The Handbook too highly. It's got all the information, pix, and videos of how to do it, and lots of styling ideas.

thisiscrazin 01-16-2013 08:55 AM

I haven't read the book yet, and plan on doing that after I move, but what is the point of the conditioner? From all of the research I've done I know that all my hair needs is the natural oils from my scalp, extra conditioner would only add more moisture than I need and/or upset the natural oil production.

NvmbrCurlss 01-16-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by thisiscrazin (Post 2102726)
I haven't read the book yet, and plan on doing that after I move, but what is the point of the conditioner? From all of the research I've done I know that all my hair needs is the natural oils from my scalp, extra conditioner would only add more moisture than I need and/or upset the natural oil production.

Until those oils move down the curly (a.k.a bent) shaft of ur hair, ur gonna need conditioner to seal in that moisture! :) take into consideration, natural oils can build up as well...requiring an actual cleanser to remove (ie baking soda, castor oil, glucosides, coco betaine...) Hope this helps!

thisiscrazin 01-16-2013 04:50 PM

I was told that after the oils stop over-producing they won't build up as long as you give yourself a scalp massage every day. The source came from someone that has been going all natural (no products at all) for over 8 years, however she has stick straight hair so I wasn't sure if it was the same for someone with curly. I plan on using a conditioner once ever 10-14 days either way, but I didn't want to upset the natural production of oil.

NvmbrCurlss 01-16-2013 09:18 PM

^^^All you can do is give it a shot:) u may also wanna check out several threads on "water washing" in the All Natural Haircare Forum on this site...

thisiscrazin 01-16-2013 11:46 PM

Sounds good, I'll keep checking the forums :)

creativelicense 01-17-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thisiscrazin (Post 2103028)
I was told that after the oils stop over-producing they won't build up as long as you give yourself a scalp massage every day. The source came from someone that has been going all natural (no products at all) for over 8 years, however she has stick straight hair so I wasn't sure if it was the same for someone with curly. I plan on using a conditioner once ever 10-14 days either way, but I didn't want to upset the natural production of oil.

It's not the same for curly hair. On straight hair, naturally produced oil from the scalp can more easily travel down the hair shaft, which helps hair retain moisture and protect it from drying out.

Since curlies don't brush their hair (at least while the hair is dry) and our hair shafts are bent, like NvmbrCurlss said, the oil can't travel down as easily.

THAT is why people with curly hair use conditioner, because it gives the hair moisture that we can't easily get otherwise. That's not to say that you can't wait for your natural oils on your scalp to return to a normal state after years of shampooing and wait for them to travel down your hair shaft, but you might suffer from dry, possibly brittle, hair in the meantime.

As others have said, the Curly Girl method is not a product-free method. CG instructs us to use a co-washing conditioner without silicones and/or a heavier leave-in/rinse out conditioner, which isn't completely washed out. Then, you style your hair with a silicone free gel.

Morgan_Adcock 01-17-2013 02:18 PM

Natural oils don't distribute down the shaft of curly hair anywhere near as well as they do on straight hair. Also, once you stop overwashing your hair, your scalp oil production will go way down.

The point is that while going without conditioner or styling product(s), in addition to eliminating sulfate shampoo, may be more healthy for your hair than what you are or have been doing, it isn't the Curly Girl method. Reading the book will help you understand what the method is, what the components are, and how they fit and work together.

NvmbrCurlss 01-22-2013 12:42 PM

Creativelicense, it looks like we have similair hair properties and my hair hates aloe vera too! ( also glycerin, polyquats, nut oils...but that's another story). TWIN???


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