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Old 01-16-2013, 09:20 PM   #1
 
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Hi everyone! I recently got my hair analysis and found out I have coarse hair so I did some light googling on coarse hair types and I found this:

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It says that coarse hair is predominant amongst African Americans and I'm wondering if that's true because I believe I read on this site and maybe in the Curly Girl Handbook that African Americans have super fine hair for the most part. I also remember braiding my friend's fractal curls once and stretching out the strand and oh man was it thin. Especially compared to mine. Again this is an out of the blue question but it's out of curiosity. If it turns out that it is true that most African Americans have coarse hair then maybe I should be looking at the black haircare sites for some guidance and product recommendations even though my curls are a looser pattern.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:46 AM   #2
 
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My favorite line is "stay away from chemical treatments as much as possible unless you have naturally curly hair."
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My favorite line is "stay away from chemical treatments as much as possible unless you have naturally curly hair."
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:19 AM   #4
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dusalocks -- the problem with google is that ANYONE can post ANYTHING, so be careful of the sites you got this info from. sounds like the same misinformation most of us got from stylists back in the day. i was always told yrs ago that my hair is coarse; turns out according to my analysis and my current stylist and a curly stylist friend, it's medium, not coarse.

i'm not saying your hair isn't coarse, it can be and if the hair analysis came back with that, then it is most likely right and works with what you saw in comparison to other's hair. i'm saying i'd stick with what you've learned here and the curly girl book. so, you should look to other coarse textured curlies to get ideas for products. your porosity is also important, but texture is the most important when it comes to selecting products.
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adThomas, I'll admit I didn't catch that line. I was more focused on the haircare aspects than the styling ones. Yeesh. That is funny.

rbb, Yes I know. I should be careful with other sites. It's probably best to hang around here which is why I asked. I was just wondering because my As I Am Coconut Co-wash which my hair really likes (although my scalp doesn't, but that's another story) seems to be very popular amongst the 3Cs-4Cs. I'm a 3A but I frigging love that stuff. I'm only planning on trying out something else because of my scalp issues. But I guess you never know. Your hair, for instance, looks a lot like mine since we have similar curl patterns. But then you're medium texture, not coarse. So maybe I'm not so coarse but coarse to medium. . .? I don't know about you but my hair seems to be much coarser around the top of my head or the crown area. Underneath it is smoother.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:11 PM   #6
 
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Coarse hair is not racially bound. Anyone can have coarse, medium of fine hair.

Stick to NC.com, the curlies on here are very knowledgeable.
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I have fine hair and my hair freakin loves As I Am too! FYI, I get lots of great ideas (both product and technique) from all types of curlies!
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Are you talking about the strand size or the feel of the hair? A lot of misinformed people will call kinky or any hair that isn't straight, coarse. They're referring to the look of the hair. My hair is very soft but medium-coarse and acts like coarse hair. On NC, coarse refers to the size of the strand. My strands look like sewing thread.
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rbb, Yes I know. I should be careful with other sites. It's probably best to hang around here which is why I asked. I was just wondering because my As I Am Coconut Co-wash which my hair really likes (although my scalp doesn't, but that's another story) seems to be very popular amongst the 3Cs-4Cs. I'm a 3A but I frigging love that stuff. I'm only planning on trying out something else because of my scalp issues. But I guess you never know. Your hair, for instance, looks a lot like mine since we have similar curl patterns. But then you're medium texture, not coarse. So maybe I'm not so coarse but coarse to medium. . .? I don't know about you but my hair seems to be much coarser around the top of my head or the crown area. Underneath it is smoother.
hair can be difficult!! you plug in texture, porosity, curl pattern, and still the results for what it likes varies greatly. and, we do have a mix of texture and curl patterns on our heads. i think the back bottom of my hair is thicker than the other strands on my head, but???? also, while my hair is 3a, and medium, and normal porosity, on the curl junkie website selection guide for her products, my hair loves the recommendations for zigzag, tightly coiled hair. go figure! thankfully, marsha was able, of course, to zoom right into that as soon as she saw my hair. i think the gray/white loses moisture more quickly, so that is what makes it like the other products. who knows, but it works. then there is dew point, inside and outside, water conditions......
i say use your hair properties as guidelines to find what it likes, but if it likes something that technically shouldn't work, just go for it and be happy your hair is happy!
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coilynapp: Yes, I know, I promise. I wasn't trying to suggest types of hair are racially bound, but I was interested to learn that many well I won't say African Americans again because that confines it to those in the states but that many people of African descent in general have fine to medium hair and many people of Asian descent have coarse hair. So then when I read this article saying the opposite I got all scooby doo faced.

Nvbrcurls: Thank you. That is very reassuring to hear!

multicultcurly: You know you're right I definitely think that's what I think it was. They were calling the hair "coarse" merely because it was kinky. I was referring to the size of the strand and the feel of it. A lot of my strands on top are very thick, darker in pigmentation and drier with a bit more density or weight to them if that makes any sense. Thicker than sewing thread that is for sure. But I can reach inside my hair and pluck out plenty of hairs that are thinner. Definitely not thin because I don't think a hair on my head could be classified as fine. But in terms of porosity these hairs are very smooth. So if I have two textures in my hair I'm a little unsure how to treat it overall other than be careful with the protein overall and maybe use extra emollients on the surface.

rbb: Hair is a strange beast. I'm still not sure if mine is protein sensitive at all or just glycerin sensitive thanks to my living in a semi-arid climate. I guess I will just have to experiment. Fortunately I can always sell or regift products that don't work for me. I have three conditioners lined up to try out right now since I finally used up last one. Let's see which one works best. I think the most important product for me since my curls are loose and I want to keep them intact is stylers and man is it difficult to hunt down protein and glycerin free gels. But I've already found one that works for me very well even though I cannot achieve 3B with it unlike with my glycerin/protein heavy gels. But yes, I should just be happy with what I have and not sweat it.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:48 AM   #11
 
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In cosmetology school, they used to teach that Asian hair is "coarse and glassy", "unlike other hair". Not sure they still teach that, but gotta take some of these memes w/a grain of salt

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In cosmetology school, they used to teach that Asian hair is "coarse and glassy", "unlike other hair". Not sure they still teach that, but gotta take some of these memes w/a grain of salt

Amen to that!
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