Frustrated 3a/b curlyhead needs volume! :(

Hi everyone,
I have had enough with my hair and Im thinking about permanently going straight since I've been so frustrated with my hair....

Everyone tells me I have beautiful curls but I have complete COMPLETE flatness at the roots and top of my head that makes me look horrible.
I need advice for how to get some volume, I tried raking product at the roots- and my curls are stringy and my roots look disheveled....

Any of you that have hg routines... let me know or if any of these products are the problem...

I usually use
Elucence poo
Suave Coconut Conditioner
Pink Boots
Aura Gel

If anyone has TECHNIQUES for how to keep curls clumpy meanwhile adding volume to the roots that allow for defined curls, please let me know, I dont diffuse, plop or whatever I'd imagine it'd destroy the curl formation
Please save this curly from her last resort of permanently straigtening her hair...
3b/a
elucence poo/condt, curls asian hair tea ecstasy,curl junkie banana and hibiscus dt, regis olive oil mask, jessicurl too shea,curl keeper, aura gel, pink boots, curl junkie banana and hibiscus leave in-fine
I have realized that using a bowl/finger diffuser on the roots only is really helpful. Also I have just started plopping with a (i know this sounds crazy) piece of really sheer fabric. After t-shirt plop on soaking hair. I have a few faves. I have used tulle(ballerina skirt mesh), cotton gauze, cheese cloth and in a pinch a mesh laundry bag. Anything that allows air flow through to my hair. I put my all the prods that I usually use on then put the sheer fabric on and it keeps the hair closer to my scalp in its curl form and still allows air flow either from a diffuser or natural air drying. Then I scrunch out sny remaining crunchies.
Cincinnati Ohio>>>Coarse protein sensitive 3a, Jessicurl WDT as a leave in, Biotera gel, White Boots, PW= coffeecurls

"Man tries to exaggerate what nature has given him," Charles Darwin (1809-1882).

"Nothing makes a woman more beautiful than the belief that she is beautiful." -Sophia Loren
I have realized that using a bowl/finger diffuser on the roots only is really helpful. Also I have just started plopping with a (i know this sounds crazy) piece of really sheer fabric. After t-shirt plop on soaking hair. I have a few faves. I have used tulle(ballerina skirt mesh), cotton gauze, cheese cloth and in a pinch a mesh laundry bag. Anything that allows air flow through to my hair. I put my all the prods that I usually use on then put the sheer fabric on and it keeps the hair closer to my scalp in its curl form and still allows air flow either from a diffuser or natural air drying. Then I scrunch out sny remaining crunchies.
Originally Posted by echokitten
That sounds like a great idea! Do you do anything special to get the sheer/mesh fabric to stay on your head? Do you ever sleep that way?

Curiosity killed the cat, but I think I'll live.
OMG, LOOK!!

...It's a siggie.
I find diffusing upside down, or with my hair piled ontop of my head helps me with volume.
~Tina
P/w: curls
Wild sass...I never sleep like that, but I have tried. I hate to sleep with anything other than a ponytail ontop of my head.
I actually plop a little differently than shown on this site. I put the fabric on the tiolet seat and pile my hair down just like you would normally but then I gather all of the fabric (make sure not to catch any hair) in front and twist then bend back. Exactly like you would if your hair were in the twist like we did before we learned how to plop... know what I mean? I just could NOT get the side twists to ever stay so I did it that way instead. Then I flip up the back into a cuff and tuck in the end of the twist. Stays there until I take it down. It is a little more difficult to get the tulle to stay, but the cotton gauze and the cheese cloth stays just fine. If you want to diffuse with it on you have to clip the twist to the side, but if you plop with side twists the crown is more open.
You can actually get away with using a regular hairdryer with this method if you have to. I mean since all your hair is pressed to your head there is no worry about blowing your hair all over the place. I would recommend though that you finish with a calming spray just in case...maybe awe inspiralling or light gel.
Cincinnati Ohio>>>Coarse protein sensitive 3a, Jessicurl WDT as a leave in, Biotera gel, White Boots, PW= coffeecurls

"Man tries to exaggerate what nature has given him," Charles Darwin (1809-1882).

"Nothing makes a woman more beautiful than the belief that she is beautiful." -Sophia Loren
Wild sass...I never sleep like that, but I have tried. I hate to sleep with anything other than a ponytail ontop of my head.
I actually plop a little differently than shown on this site. I put the fabric on the tiolet seat and pile my hair down just like you would normally but then I gather all of the fabric (make sure not to catch any hair) in front and twist then bend back. Exactly like you would if your hair were in the twist like we did before we learned how to plop... know what I mean? I just could NOT get the side twists to ever stay so I did it that way instead. Then I flip up the back into a cuff and tuck in the end of the twist. Stays there until I take it down. It is a little more difficult to get the tulle to stay, but the cotton gauze and the cheese cloth stays just fine. If you want to diffuse with it on you have to clip the twist to the side, but if you plop with side twists the crown is more open.
You can actually get away with using a regular hairdryer with this method if you have to. I mean since all your hair is pressed to your head there is no worry about blowing your hair all over the place. I would recommend though that you finish with a calming spray just in case...maybe awe inspiralling or light gel.
Originally Posted by echokitten
Where is that bowing emoticon? This is great stuff!

I can totally picture that front-twist - just like how I made my turbans pre-NC, but without hair in the twist. The diffusing idea also sounds really nice...all hail echokitten's great ideas!


*fighting ballerina for her tutu*
OMG, LOOK!!

...It's a siggie.
I believe I would throw down with a ballerina. I mean if it meant either her skirt or a towel...lol.
Oh and for the record...you can get any of the fabrics at JoAnne's or Hancock's etc. You can look in the remnants tables for pieces...you dont even need a whole yard. Cheese cloth is in the grocery store or you can get it online CHEAP. I try to only use one layer at a time, but since it is narrow it takes some practice. That's why gauze is better. It comes in 45" wide at the least in fabric stores.
These are the best for hot oil treatments cause you can get dryer heat easier thru it.
OH! I forgot to mention...mesh produce bags (potato, orange etc) work really good too without soaking up the oils in the DT. I actually use these with one of those small self heating packs, like the kind for your hands and boots. I put a thin tee or whatever between to protect my hair and then wrap the whole shebang up and clean or whatever for an hour, No cords or expensive bonnets. I get the packs at Walgreens.
Cincinnati Ohio>>>Coarse protein sensitive 3a, Jessicurl WDT as a leave in, Biotera gel, White Boots, PW= coffeecurls

"Man tries to exaggerate what nature has given him," Charles Darwin (1809-1882).

"Nothing makes a woman more beautiful than the belief that she is beautiful." -Sophia Loren
If anyone has TECHNIQUES for how to keep curls clumpy meanwhile adding volume to the roots that allow for defined curls, please let me know, I dont diffuse, plop or whatever I'd imagine it'd destroy the curl formation
Please save this curly from her last resort of permanently straigtening her hair... [/quote]

Plopping actually really helped my hair. It helped hold the curl formation still while my hair dried. Also have you tried pin curling the crown of your head while drying? Longer hair usually pulls itself out and needs a little extra help. I sometimes spray gel on the roots at the crown and use clips to coil clumps and hold them there. I am talking about the straight flat hairdresser clips to hold the curls in place. I really do recommend upside down diffusing with a max hold gel and a bowl diffuser. This works really well for my 3b spirals, and I have coarse heavy hair too.
Cincinnati Ohio>>>Coarse protein sensitive 3a, Jessicurl WDT as a leave in, Biotera gel, White Boots, PW= coffeecurls

"Man tries to exaggerate what nature has given him," Charles Darwin (1809-1882).

"Nothing makes a woman more beautiful than the belief that she is beautiful." -Sophia Loren

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