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Old 01-23-2013, 12:00 AM   #21
 
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Oh and thank you skorpio for starting the thread. Like someone else said, this was the answer to a question I didn't know I needed to ask.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:05 PM   #22
 
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For those that apply product after scrunching/plopping/drying how do you get clumping?

My curl was great, but not as clumpy as I prefer it.
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Oh and thank you skorpio for starting the thread. Like someone else said, this was the answer to a question I didn't know I needed to ask.

You're welcome :-) I'm glad I could help!
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:27 AM   #24
 
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For those that apply product after scrunching/plopping/drying how do you get clumping?

My curl was great, but not as clumpy as I prefer it.
I have to get clump action before scrunching/plopping/drying, and I imagine that's how most do it. It's really difficult to make your hair clump nicely after it's already mostly dry.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:38 AM   #25
 
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I have to get clump action before scrunching/plopping/drying, and I imagine that's how most do it. It's really difficult to make your hair clump nicely after it's already mostly dry.

Can you explain how how you do that? My hair has always naturally clumped provided I apply product to it when very wet. Almost too clumpy actually.

I'm thinking to experiment with a leave in, then plop, then add gel?
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:08 AM   #26
 
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I have to apply some product when very wet, then scrunch with a MF towel, then apply a little more over that before plopping.

Out of the plop I sometimes spritz with a spray gel if needed.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:29 AM   #27
 
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Yes, I do!

I do LI, seal, then some gel on very wet hair. Then scrunch it with a MF towel. Then I reapply some gel focussing mainly on the ends.

After plopping, I sometimes will use a spray gel and gently scrunch with the towel a couple times.

I have to start with very wet hair to establish some clumping and keep frizz and springiness at bay. But I have to then scrunch water and weight out of those clumps to keep the curls from stretching. (And have to add a little gel back in to my then damp hair before plopping.)

So I guess I sort of do BOTH things.
As I was reading these posts I was thinking hmm maybe I should stop at the first dollop of LOOB and do the rest when it's less wet. Now you've clinched it! I'll try this tonight/tomorrow! I've searched high & low on these boards for things that cause shrinkage but the threads are usually wanting less shrinkage. (I may have even started a thread asking but I'm not sure)
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For super bouncy curls I scrunch product in when my hair is fairly wet, but not completely soaking. I've really been liking AG recoil mixed with curl keeper (literally mixed, not layered). You can adjust the amount of recoil based on how much hold/enhancement you want.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:38 AM   #29
 
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Missbanjo - hope it works for you! I've found to maintain any shrinkage I need that hold! And with how watered the product gets, and the fact that I scrunch a lot out, I need to put some back! Lol!

Product-wise, shrinkage comes from protein, a small amount of mag sulfate, and SM's curling soufflé has worked wonders! FSG works, too.

But I need hold! Protein, moisture, and hold! Lol!
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:44 AM   #30
 
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I ordered recoil and curl keeper this morning, we'll see how well the work with shrinkage on my weirdo hair. If I don't touch my hair much I get loose coils on bottom (right side more than left for some reason) and more of a wavy canopy. If I use a lot of movement drying and diffusing, I get that "beachy wave" look that people seem to like but all I see is "awwww my curls are gone!"
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I know anything with protein makes my curls tighter and shrink more while moisture based products relax and stretch my curls.
Thnks. I tried the protein and I think it helped. I tried Joico Intense Hydrator and it made my hair super soft
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