Looking for any Hello Hydration users??

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  • 1 Post By Marci

I have been CG almost a year, and about a week ago I started using this conditioner with a 'cone. I am quite happy with the results, but wanted to hear from any other curlies who use this product. How are you using it, and what was your experience with buildup, moisture, and the like. I was reading a recent thread by Myrna on the 'cone controversy and I am starting to believe that the "evils" of 'cones are worth it if I can have a less complicated curly routine. I was so tired of washing, plopping, clipping, drying, scrunching and worrying every single day. Yes, I had good results. Even great results. But it was a time consuming process to take on every morning. My one 'cone product gives me several days of great hair, and more flexibility. And it is ridiculously cheap. What do you guys think????
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I have been CG almost a year, and about a week ago I started using this conditioner with a 'cone. I am quite happy with the results, but wanted to hear from any other curlies who use this product. How are you using it, and what was your experience with buildup, moisture, and the like. I was reading a recent thread by Myrna on the 'cone controversy and I am starting to believe that the "evils" of 'cones are worth it if I can have a less complicated curly routine. I was so tired of washing, plopping, clipping, drying, scrunching and worrying every single day. Yes, I had good results. Even great results. But it was a time consuming process to take on every morning. My one 'cone product gives me several days of great hair, and more flexibility. And it is ridiculously cheap. What do you guys think????
Originally Posted by Marci
When I was using this, it was great. Not a lot of buildup too fast, moisture was awesome. Only reason I stopped using it is because I wanted to stop shampooing.
I bought one huge bottle of this months ago because I saw a lot of good reviews on it. I liked the smell and I don't have any issues with cones causing build up in my hair so this conditioner didn't either. I didn't find that it was that great for detangling either, I had to use tons of conditioner.
I just don't understand why they call it hello hydration because it didn't leave my hair any more moisturized after using it so after the bottle was done I didn't repurchase.
I love HEHH, i use it as my daily leave in and do not have a lot of quick build up. I always repurchase it:-). My cone free alternative is Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture Conditioner.
I just used my first cone in about 2 years this week, myself! So far decent results, but I'm going to keep experimenting.

I went with a-cone, too. It is chemically made up so it will only leave 1 layer of itself, and it targets damaged areas. So a-cone itself won't cause any build-up. (It still must be removed with a surficant, of course, but most low-poos should do fine.)

I can definitely tell it's in there, tho.

I have thought about trying HH, so I'll be following this thread, for sure!

My concern is will moisture be able to get into my hair shaft ok with this cone?

Of course if I poo it off, moisturize and then apply it like a LI (as you did), there shouldn't be a problem, right? Sort of using the cone as an added sealer? Or is rinsing it out better? Idk! Lol!!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
When I was using this, it was great. Not a lot of buildup too fast, moisture was awesome. Only reason I stopped using it is because I wanted to stop shampooing.
Originally Posted by Meera
How is no shampoo going for you Meera? I did that for the first few months but I couldn't make it. I alternate co-wash with low 'poo with an occasional clarifying wash if I want to straighten. Compared to when you used Hello Hydration, is your hair healthier now?


I didn't find that it was that great for detangling either, I had to use tons of conditioner.
I just don't understand why they call it hello hydration because it didn't leave my hair any more moisturized after using it
Originally Posted by Ericachristina
I find that it doesn't help me detangle either. I tried it once as a rinse out and that wasn't fun. I lost some big chunks of hair
I'm using Yes to Carrots and SM smoothie as rinse outs right now and the smoothie is amazing for detangling, at least for me.

I love HEHH, i use it as my daily leave in and do not have a lot of quick build up. I always repurchase it:-). My cone free alternative is Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture Conditioner.
Originally Posted by Always@night
Yes!! This is exactly how I have been using it, as a leave-in under my gel and I scrunch in a pea every day til whenever I decide to wash again. Do you find that you need to shampoo at all? How quickly does it cause build up? I have been using it a little over a week now, I use a small amount, and all my other products are 'cone free.

I just used my first cone in about 2 years this week, myself! So far decent results, but I'm going to keep experimenting.

I went with a-cone, too. It is chemically made up so it will only leave 1 layer of itself, and it targets damaged areas. So a-cone itself won't cause any build-up. (It still must be removed with a surficant, of course, but most low-poos should do fine.)

I can definitely tell it's in there, tho.

I have thought about trying HH, so I'll be following this thread, for sure!

My concern is will moisture be able to get into my hair shaft ok with this cone?

Of course if I poo it off, moisturize and then apply it like a LI (as you did), there shouldn't be a problem, right? Sort of using the cone as an added sealer? Or is rinsing it out better? Idk! Lol!!
Originally Posted by Jas76
Jas, it is quite interesting that so many of us have started exploring 'cones again! I think the one in HH is bis-aminopropyl dimethicone, but that is what my specific bottle says. Online, the ingredients are all over the place. It is supposed to not build up, and to be attracted to the more damaged areas similar to amodimethicone.

I am also wondering about removing it, because I believe that the low 'poo I have (SM Moisture Retention) may not be able to get it out. I have been thinking of it as a sealer, just like you said. Removing 'cone, then moisturizing, then reapplying 'cone to seal in the moisture made sense to me
I am just not sure that I am removing it. Or that I need to remove it.

So far, my results have been amazing. My hair looks defined even without the 'cone but I get to wet my hair less often when I use it because the results last longer. This makes it worth it to me, even at the risk of a little dryness. Plus, it is SO cheap. I use all drugstore products and this was been one of the cheapest ones that actually worked for me.

Hopefully more users will chime in
I posted a link that explains that low poos like SM (I use that!) should actually remove cones.

I think I posted it in this thread??

Anyhow, I just started back down this coney road, so time will tell for me, I guess!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I shampoo once a month but that is by choice, I wouldn't say I need to but I do in case I use a lot of gel. I would also say I get light buildup in about a month, then again I am heavy handed when it comes to product application although I will say when I use Tresemme I shampooed once every 2 months.
Why does the cone give several days of hair (between washing)? Is it better hold or better at retaining moisture?

I don't see much of a difference using cones or not so I am curious as to the specific benefits other curliest see?
High Density, High Porosity, Medium Texture, 3B with some kink

DT: SS DDMT - HG
Lo-Poo: No Preference
Co-wash: CJ Smoothing Conditioner
RO: CJ Strengthening Conditioner - HG
LI: CK Satin Roots
Styler: CK Coil Jam
Other Likes: Castor Oil; CK Twist Whip, MD CSC
Dislikes: Wheat Protein; Aloe LIs or Stylers

I posted a link that explains that low poos like SM (I use that!) should actually remove cones.

I think I posted it in this thread??

Anyhow, I just started back down this coney road, so time will tell for me, I guess!
Originally Posted by Jas76
I think it may have been Myrna's thread, but I recall reading the list as well. I am fairly certain that SM 'poo won't get the HH 'cone out, but I have a 'poo with cocaminopropyl betaine that should do the trick if and only if I feel that it's building up. I'm going to give it a month or so before I decide to keep using 'cones. Like you said, time will tell!

I shampoo once a month but that is by choice, I wouldn't say I need to but I do in case I use a lot of gel. I would also say I get light buildup in about a month, then again I am heavy handed when it comes to product application although I will say when I use Tresemme I shampooed once every 2 months.
Originally Posted by Always@night
I am heavy handed with my gel too, gobs and gobs of it. Can't. Live. Without. Gel. I have stacks of bottles stashed under my bathroom sink. A hurricane could hit, but my hair will be alright lol. I'll probably start to clarify now that I'm using a 'cone. But I get soo lazy do do the PT and DT afterwards

Why does the cone give several days of hair (between washing)? Is it better hold or better at retaining moisture?

I don't see much of a difference using cones or not so I am curious as to the specific benefits other curliest see?
Originally Posted by tricello
Tricello, i am not sure exactly what the 'cone is doing. I think it is acting as a sealant like Jas suggested. I don't get better hold, I need serious gel for hold but somehow the HH keeps my clumps from breaking apart. I can handle the curls, sleep on them, go out in the wind, go dancing and work out and they hold up perfectly. Probably because its coating my hair to keep humidity out. Or, it is coating my hair to keep moisture in. I use very little, about a quarter size amount on almost waist length hair.
But whatever it is, I am ecstatic
When I was using this, it was great. Not a lot of buildup too fast, moisture was awesome. Only reason I stopped using it is because I wanted to stop shampooing.
Originally Posted by Meera
How is no shampoo going for you Meera? I did that for the first few months but I couldn't make it. I alternate co-wash with low 'poo with an occasional clarifying wash if I want to straighten. Compared to when you used Hello Hydration, is your hair healthier now?
Originally Posted by Marci
Its going pretty good actually. I do think I'm going to have to do some clarifying, but with a sulfate free shampoo. Maybe Shea Moistures (BOGO half off at target right now btw.) My hair is actually a lot better, can hold more moisture for longer, and I can moisturize my hair as much as I need to without having to wash it. I like it a lot better, but I wont say it was only because of the cones, mostly the sulfates. If I could effectively wash out cones without a harsh cleanser, I probably would have continued to use it. How is your hair holding up? Maybe Ill do what you mentioned about the low poo, what do you use?

Last edited by Meera; 01-29-2013 at 01:37 PM.
Its going pretty good actually. I do think I'm going to have to do some clarifying, but with a sulfate free shampoo. Maybe Shea Moistures (BOGO half off at target right now btw.) My hair is actually a lot better, can hold more moisture for longer, and I can moisturize my hair as much as I need to without having to wash it. I like it a lot better, but I wont say it was only because of the cones, mostly the sulfates. If I could effectively wash out cones without a harsh cleanser, I probably would have continued to use it. How is your hair holding up? Maybe Ill do what you mentioned about the low poo, what do you use?
Originally Posted by Meera
I use the SM 'poo, too bad my Target doesn't carry it. I am so cheap, it is the most expensive product I have lol. BOGO would be off the chain. I think it's mild enough to be a low 'poo but I am not sure. I also think the sulfates were the culprit with my hair. I do use PEG modified 'cones, which are supposed to be water soluble. Perhaps those would agree with your routine? I also use L'oreal EverSleek Cleansing conditioner as a low 'poo. That stuff smells so yummy, and feels "cleaner" than straight co-washing everyday. IDK, but that never worked for me. No matter how much I scrubbed, gunky scalp the next day. But SM and the EverSleek are super gentle and now I alternate between those two and co-washing with YTC. I am much happier with my scalp using these, my hair looks pretty much the same either way. 100x better than when I used sulfates thou. How long have you been shampoo free?
Its going pretty good actually. I do think I'm going to have to do some clarifying, but with a sulfate free shampoo. Maybe Shea Moistures (BOGO half off at target right now btw.) My hair is actually a lot better, can hold more moisture for longer, and I can moisturize my hair as much as I need to without having to wash it. I like it a lot better, but I wont say it was only because of the cones, mostly the sulfates. If I could effectively wash out cones without a harsh cleanser, I probably would have continued to use it. How is your hair holding up? Maybe Ill do what you mentioned about the low poo, what do you use?
Originally Posted by Meera
I use the SM 'poo, too bad my Target doesn't carry it. I am so cheap, it is the most expensive product I have lol. BOGO would be off the chain. I think it's mild enough to be a low 'poo but I am not sure. I also think the sulfates were the culprit with my hair. I do use PEG modified 'cones, which are supposed to be water soluble. Perhaps those would agree with your routine? I also use L'oreal EverSleek Cleansing conditioner as a low 'poo. That stuff smells so yummy, and feels "cleaner" than straight co-washing everyday. IDK, but that never worked for me. No matter how much I scrubbed, gunky scalp the next day. But SM and the EverSleek are super gentle and now I alternate between those two and co-washing with YTC. I am much happier with my scalp using these, my hair looks pretty much the same either way. 100x better than when I used sulfates thou. How long have you been shampoo free?
Originally Posted by Marci
Honestly, only been shampoo free for about a month. I know the sulfates are the problem with my hair. I've tried this before but had not found a conditioner that had enough slip and moisture to detangle my hair. (I use GVP Conditioning balm now) & omg I'm extra cheap too! Shea moisture is the most expensive I will go when it comes to products. I'm thinking about trying out as I am coconut cowash for my scalp before I pick up the shea moisture.
Meera,
I had good luck with the Coconut Suave, but hated the Lilac Lavender whatever the heck. The purple looking one. Everlasting sunshine was actually my very first cowash, but I actually used quite a bit of it on my dogs lol. I did like the Burt's Bees very Volumizing condish, but never tried the As I am line. I wouldn't say my hair is tangly thou, hopefully some of the other users will chime in with product recs.
Meera, I'm a fellow cheap curly! I have the same rule as you - SM is as expensive as I'll go! Lol!

I LOVE GVPCB! But I also use Tres. Nats, which has decent slip for a cheap-o. I also like Vo5 Shea Cashmere. Suave coconut has been good to me, as a co-wash or LI.

SM has not given me good slip. In fact I use their condish as a LI - LOVE it for that! They just came out with a detangler, but it's only at a few Target stores as of now, I think.

I hear great things about yes to carrots, but have never tried it.

If you want a poo that is very gentle, I love SM's moisture retention poo! It feels like a cleansing condish to me, almost.

HTH!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Meera,
I had good luck with the Coconut Suave, but hated the Lilac Lavender whatever the heck. The purple looking one. Everlasting sunshine was actually my very first cowash, but I actually used quite a bit of it on my dogs lol. I did like the Burt's Bees very Volumizing condish, but never tried the As I am line. I wouldn't say my hair is tangly thou, hopefully some of the other users will chime in with product recs.
Originally Posted by Marci
Thanks for the good wishes. lol no plans on trying the suave yet. The As I am coconut cowash is $8 for 16 oz. at sallys, I really want to try it because my friend said it realy cleaned her scalp. Also, Shea moisture purification mask worked to clean my hair, but not scalp. If the As I Am doesnt work, I will probably pick up shea moisture shampoo from target & use it every 2 weeks or so. (or however often my scalp tells me to lol)

Meera, I'm a fellow cheap curly! I have the same rule as you - SM is as expensive as I'll go! Lol!

I LOVE GVPCB! But I also use Tres. Nats, which has decent slip for a cheap-o. I also like Vo5 Shea Cashmere. Suave coconut has been good to me, as a co-wash or LI.

SM has not given me good slip. In fact I use their condish as a LI - LOVE it for that! They just came out with a detangler, but it's only at a few Target stores as of now, I think.

I hear great things about yes to carrots, but have never tried it.

If you want a poo that is very gentle, I love SM's moisture retention poo! It feels like a cleansing condish to me, almost.

HTH!
Originally Posted by Jas76
lol its awesome that I'm not the only cheap curly. I've never tried the suave, yes to carrots, that specific vo5, or the shea moisture conditioner. I heard the one with the black label is really good though, better than the others. I also love the conditioning balm, its awesome. Tresseme naturals didnt really get through my thick dense hair :/ I had to use a ton to get it to work. As "ve said, I'm going to pick up the coconut cowash and see how that does for my scalp. If that doesnt work for me, I'll definitely be picking up the SM shampoo(:

Last edited by Meera; 01-31-2013 at 07:18 PM.

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