my curls have changed (w before/after pics)

I've been thinking for a while that my hair looks kind of flat in back. Then I came across some photos I had posted here over a year ago. At that time, I had decided to change hairdressers because my layers were pretty much gone. Now, looking at the old pics, my hair was much fuller.
Now in the new pics, it looks almost like it's got a ton of gel in it (kind of the wet look from years ago).
I'm going for a cut with a new stylist this week. Hopefully she can make it look better. I like the length but I'm willing to lose some of it.
Opinions? Doesn't my current hair look (1st pic) almost kinky compared to the soft curls in the old pic?
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I think your hair in the first picture looks a bit more defined the curls look tighter whereas in the second picture they look less defined and a tad frizzy. Maybe you should try out some new styling products to help keep some curl definition and help with frizz. It doesn't look any less full to me though.


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I think your hair in the first picture looks a bit more defined the curls look tighter whereas in the second picture they look less defined and a tad frizzy. Maybe you should try out some new styling products to help keep some curl definition and help with frizz. It doesn't look any less full to me though.
Originally Posted by Ericachristina
Yes, the more recent pic has more definition but I think it looks kind of flat. Will see what my new (Deva trained) stylist can do.
thanks for your input Ericachristina
I think your hair in the first picture looks a bit more defined the curls look tighter whereas in the second picture they look less defined and a tad frizzy. Maybe you should try out some new styling products to help keep some curl definition and help with frizz. It doesn't look any less full to me though.
Originally Posted by Ericachristina
Yes, the more recent pic has more definition but I think it looks kind of flat. Will see what my new (Deva trained) stylist can do.
thanks for your input Ericachristina
Originally Posted by sdkitty

Seems like what happens to me. When the curls clump together more I lose volume. When they are separated they are "fluffier" but also frizzy. Your damned if u do, damned if u dont -__- mine are clumped today too. Personally I don't like it. I rather have them bigger even if it means some more frizz lol. I think it's cuz I used two products after I showered, which believe it or not two is heavy for me. I have fine hair with what seems like NO porosity
I think your hair in the first picture looks a bit more defined the curls look tighter whereas in the second picture they look less defined and a tad frizzy. Maybe you should try out some new styling products to help keep some curl definition and help with frizz. It doesn't look any less full to me though.
Originally Posted by Ericachristina
Yes, the more recent pic has more definition but I think it looks kind of flat. Will see what my new (Deva trained) stylist can do.
thanks for your input Ericachristina
Originally Posted by sdkitty

Seems like what happens to me. When the curls clump together more I lose volume. When they are separated they are "fluffier" but also frizzy. Your damned if u do, damned if u dont -__- mine are clumped today too. Personally I don't like it. I rather have them bigger even if it means some more frizz lol. I think it's cuz I used two products after I showered, which believe it or not two is heavy for me. I have fine hair with what seems like NO porosity
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
I know what you mean. Yesterday when I washed my hair, I decided to skip the leave-in conditioner in case it was weighing my hair down. But it didn't make much difference. So I think in my case it's the length matbe weighing it down. I'm so used to big hair so like you, I think I prefer more fluffy to more definition.
Wow! What progress! Its beautiful! Sadly, my hair always resembles your hair in the 2nd pic. :/ Can't do anything right.
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Yes, the more recent pic has more definition but I think it looks kind of flat. Will see what my new (Deva trained) stylist can do.
thanks for your input Ericachristina
Originally Posted by sdkitty

Seems like what happens to me. When the curls clump together more I lose volume. When they are separated they are "fluffier" but also frizzy. Your damned if u do, damned if u dont -__- mine are clumped today too. Personally I don't like it. I rather have them bigger even if it means some more frizz lol. I think it's cuz I used two products after I showered, which believe it or not two is heavy for me. I have fine hair with what seems like NO porosity
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
I know what you mean. Yesterday when I washed my hair, I decided to skip the leave-in conditioner in case it was weighing my hair down. But it didn't make much difference. So I think in my case it's the length matbe weighing it down. I'm so used to big hair so like you, I think I prefer more fluffy to more definition.
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Yea i love long hair but it too weighs down my hair. I just got it cut to below my shoulders so I'm hoping to get more volume now. I'm always afraid to use more than 1 product. If I don't I get frizz city, if I do I get flat city lol I can't win!
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Yes, the more recent pic has more definition but I think it looks kind of flat. Will see what my new (Deva trained) stylist can do.
thanks for your input Ericachristina
Originally Posted by sdkitty

Seems like what happens to me. When the curls clump together more I lose volume. When they are separated they are "fluffier" but also frizzy. Your damned if u do, damned if u dont -__- mine are clumped today too. Personally I don't like it. I rather have them bigger even if it means some more frizz lol. I think it's cuz I used two products after I showered, which believe it or not two is heavy for me. I have fine hair with what seems like NO porosity
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
I know what you mean. Yesterday when I washed my hair, I decided to skip the leave-in conditioner in case it was weighing my hair down. But it didn't make much difference. So I think in my case it's the length matbe weighing it down. I'm so used to big hair so like you, I think I prefer more fluffy to more definition.
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Let me know if the stylist helps please!
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I love the length, definition and shine in the first picture! I completely understand what you're saying though. I've been contemplating getting layers because I'm having the same 'flat' issue. My hair is super fine, almost down the tailbone when wet but I love the clumpy look so any volume is pretty much impossible right now. I use a deva diffuser (not their super expensive blow dryer, just the attachment) to dry around my scalp and give my roots some lift but by the end of the day...back to looking flat.

I just have to make the effort to find a stylist who knows how to cut curly hair. Also, I'm afraid of the amount it's going to cost compared to the $15 "straight hair" trims I'm used to getting. I guess you get what you pay for.
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Wow! What progress! Its beautiful! Sadly, my hair always resembles your hair in the 2nd pic. :/ Can't do anything right.
Originally Posted by TartNTangy
Wow! You've made amazing progress, your current hair looks fantastic <3
Originally Posted by Aqua_Lily
I love the length, definition and shine in the first picture! I completely understand what you're saying though. I've been contemplating getting layers because I'm having the same 'flat' issue. My hair is super fine, almost down the tailbone when wet but I love the clumpy look so any volume is pretty much impossible right now. I use a deva diffuser (not their super expensive blow dryer, just the attachment) to dry around my scalp and give my roots some lift but by the end of the day...back to looking flat.

I just have to make the effort to find a stylist who knows how to cut curly hair. Also, I'm afraid of the amount it's going to cost compared to the $15 "straight hair" trims I'm used to getting. I guess you get what you pay for.
Originally Posted by sheilacurl
Interesting - I'm not satisfied with my current hair and you all think it's much improved. I think part of my problem is I was criticizing another curly haired woman who has very long hair (like waist length). I thought it looked very flat and gelled (kind of wet look). Then I looked at my own and saw a resemblence.
Also - maybe I have too much time on my hands to obsess about my hair

Will see what the new stylist says. One good thing about her - she had several positive feedbacks on this website and the only ones who complained were two who wanted more hair cut off. So she won't cut off more than I want.

Thanks for all your comments.
I love the length, definition and shine in the first picture! I completely understand what you're saying though. I've been contemplating getting layers because I'm having the same 'flat' issue. My hair is super fine, almost down the tailbone when wet but I love the clumpy look so any volume is pretty much impossible right now. I use a deva diffuser (not their super expensive blow dryer, just the attachment) to dry around my scalp and give my roots some lift but by the end of the day...back to looking flat.

I just have to make the effort to find a stylist who knows how to cut curly hair. Also, I'm afraid of the amount it's going to cost compared to the $15 "straight hair" trims I'm used to getting. I guess you get what you pay for.
Originally Posted by sheilacurl
Wow, your hair is very long. And if it's fine, I would think it would have to be pretty flat. As far as getting what you pay for, I'm not sure about that. I'd be afraid to go to a Supercuts or someplace like that but I worked with a woman who had hair very much like mine and that's what she did. Her hair always looked beautiful.
I think there are many stylists out there who take advantage of the curly haired community's obession with our hair and charge more than they're worth. I do think you might benefit from some long layers. You could look on this website for hairstylists in your city and go for a consult or two.
It is layers that will give you volume. Your hair will look fuller once you get the layers cut in. Hair all one length is going to look flat.

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It is layers that will give you volume. Your hair will look fuller once you get the layers cut in. Hair all one length is going to look flat.
Originally Posted by Shadiyah
I do have layers but maybe she can do a bit more layering....thanks Shadiyah
I went for my haircut today and I'm very pleased. She cut a couple of inches off and did the Deva styling. It looks very thick and healthy now - not flat at all. I think I've found a very good stylist. I'll be more sure about the degree of improvement after I've washed and styled it myself but preliminary I'm very happy.



Seems like what happens to me. When the curls clump together more I lose volume. When they are separated they are "fluffier" but also frizzy. Your damned if u do, damned if u dont -__- mine are clumped today too. Personally I don't like it. I rather have them bigger even if it means some more frizz lol. I think it's cuz I used two products after I showered, which believe it or not two is heavy for me. I have fine hair with what seems like NO porosity
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
I know what you mean. Yesterday when I washed my hair, I decided to skip the leave-in conditioner in case it was weighing my hair down. But it didn't make much difference. So I think in my case it's the length matbe weighing it down. I'm so used to big hair so like you, I think I prefer more fluffy to more definition.
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Let me know if the stylist helps please!
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
I went for my haircut today and I'm very pleased. She cut a couple of inches off and did the Deva styling. It looks very thick and healthy now - not flat at all. I think I've found a very good stylist. I'll be more sure about the degree of improvement after I've washed and styled it myself but preliminary I'm very happy.


I know what you mean. Yesterday when I washed my hair, I decided to skip the leave-in conditioner in case it was weighing my hair down. But it didn't make much difference. So I think in my case it's the length matbe weighing it down. I'm so used to big hair so like you, I think I prefer more fluffy to more definition.
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Let me know if the stylist helps please!
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Pic? And I'm thinking about having a friend cut layers in mine too
Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
I went for my haircut today and I'm very pleased. She cut a couple of inches off and did the Deva styling. It looks very thick and healthy now - not flat at all. I think I've found a very good stylist. I'll be more sure about the degree of improvement after I've washed and styled it myself but preliminary I'm very happy.


Let me know if the stylist helps please!
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Pic? And I'm thinking about having a friend cut layers in mine too
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190


I'll try to get some pics soon but maybe better to wait until I style it myself. It looks good the way she did it and I think it will look good after I wash but that would be a more fair comparison.
I went for my haircut today and I'm very pleased. She cut a couple of inches off and did the Deva styling. It looks very thick and healthy now - not flat at all. I think I've found a very good stylist. I'll be more sure about the degree of improvement after I've washed and styled it myself but preliminary I'm very happy.
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Pic? And I'm thinking about having a friend cut layers in mine too
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190


I'll try to get some pics soon but maybe better to wait until I style it myself. It looks good the way she did it and I think it will look good after I wash but that would be a more fair comparison.
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Ok
Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity

Pic? And I'm thinking about having a friend cut layers in mine too
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190


I'll try to get some pics soon but maybe better to wait until I style it myself. It looks good the way she did it and I think it will look good after I wash but that would be a more fair comparison.
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Ok
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Your hair reminds me of mine in your pic but you say yours is fine and mine is more coarse. I do think you'd benefit from layers but make sure if you have some layers cut that they are long layers.


Seems like what happens to me. When the curls clump together more I lose volume. When they are separated they are "fluffier" but also frizzy. Your damned if u do, damned if u dont -__- mine are clumped today too. Personally I don't like it. I rather have them bigger even if it means some more frizz lol. I think it's cuz I used two products after I showered, which believe it or not two is heavy for me. I have fine hair with what seems like NO porosity
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
I know what you mean. Yesterday when I washed my hair, I decided to skip the leave-in conditioner in case it was weighing my hair down. But it didn't make much difference. So I think in my case it's the length matbe weighing it down. I'm so used to big hair so like you, I think I prefer more fluffy to more definition.
Originally Posted by sdkitty
Let me know if the stylist helps please!
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Here's a photo of my hair after styling it myself using the technique my stylist taught me. Don't know if it's obvious from the photo, but I got better curl formation and less frizz.
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