How to Get More Clumping?

For a week I was able to have thick clumps that turned into beautiful curls and now I can't figure out what I did. What do you guys do to get more clumping?

Right now, I just use Deva OneC, Angell and then some spray. I have ordered Jessicurl CCSS and RR, but it hasn't arrived yet.

Help!
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
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Many curlies get better clumping from cream stylers and thick gels, thinner clumps from mousses and thin gels. Protein-heavy stylers also tend toward thin clumps. There are exceptions, of course. Plopping and/or scrunching can help clumping. Some people (I am one) get thicker clumps by combing in the styling products and then scrunching the curl back in.

As to why you are getting thinner clumps while using the same products as before, I don't know! I usually blame the weather or the need for a trim.
Thank you for your reply. It could be the weather since it has been raining here for the past few days. I doubt I need a trim since I just got my "deva cut" less than two weeks ago!

Hopefully the Jessicurl products will work for me and will help with more clumping!
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
Just technique will help a lot. No raking, scrunching products in and scrunching water out. Peach products help clumping for some of us we've noticed. Recoil helps as does curl cremes.

I have to put my products in really wet hair or I get stringier curls although my natural pattern will by the end of the day form big clumps again
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Just technique will help a lot. No raking, scrunching products in and scrunching water out. Peach products help clumping for some of us we've noticed. Recoil helps as does curl cremes.

I have to put my products in really wet hair or I get stringier curls although my natural pattern will by the end of the day form big clumps again
Originally Posted by medusahair
Medusa - I remember reading that you just smooth your products over the bottom and then the canopy of your hair, no raking. Did I make that up? And you still get everything covered if you do that?

CurlyQ - If you check out the various threads on L'Oreal Out of Bed in the product reviews section, there are also several of us who are getting good clumping with that product. Plus, it's a cheap drug store hair goodie.
embracing my inner curl since late Nov 2006
2b/3a (I think?)
color-treated red/brown, medium-textured hair
PJ, currently using Suave citrus smoothie, B2B pom cond, GF C&S leave-in, AG re:coil, LOOB, HE SMU, Jessicurl HCC, CC, AIS
You're right smoothing then scrunching is my norm. Lately for volume I've been raking but if I want good clumps no raking at all.
I use more product if I smooth and scrunch but if your hair is pretty wet the water helps distribute it. I smooth over my canopy and underneath and then scrunch and scrunch until I can feel my hair clump up. I always get bigger clumps that way. Less volume though so it's a trade off.
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
sorry to hijack but..

If you smooth the products in, how do you make sure cover all of your hair?
In DESPERATE need of a haircut.
Ok, so I've finally discovered technique that works for me. First, No raking, this guarantees stringy curls. I section, smooth, and scrunch. Just that simple. I section from ear to ear, then another section from temple to temple then everything else. I smooth each section separately with product. Then after that, I scrunch like normal, then with MF towel. voila! All this gives me good coverage, nice clumping, bouncy curls.

I've been having good hair days with this technniqe and Garnier S&S or C&S leave-in, Loreal Out of Bed, Garnier Soft Curl Cream, ORS Lock and Twist Gel. (not all at once)
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This is going to be a really stupid question, but hey, I need help. LOL... How can you not rake at all?

Here's my routine, I wet my hair. If I'm doing a co-wash then I do that and then add OneC and gently finger comb all my hair. I HAVE TO do this or I will end up with dreadlocks in a matter of days. Is that considered raking? I NEVER use a comb, fingers only.

After that, I add more One C by smoothing on bottom and canopy and finger comb through hair while soaking wet and then I add Angell. I scrunch out extra water and product and then dry via scrunching with tee-shirt.

Any suggestions on what I could be doing wrong?
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
YOu get the no raking down eventually. It's easiest if you grab sections like a ponytail and run your hand over it with the product smoothed on your hand and then move on to the next section.
The water in your hair will help distribute it. After I've smoothed and scrunched I do sometimes look and see if the top of my hair looks nice and clumpy and if it doesn't I smooth some gel from root up. By then my hair is sticking up off my head just on top so that makes this easy. Generally though I don't need this. The scrunching I do really well and it does distribute the product. I can feel my hair clump up and I can feel it coated with the product. Once I feel that I can stop scrunching.

All that being said there are some products that help clumping too, that Kiss my face upper management gel give me personally some real nice clumping. Peach conditioners, ones that actually have peach in it not just peach smell, do a good job of clumping. Aloe is my in leave in and that for me is curl enhacing and helps the clumping.

Now if my hair has been shampooed and no oils are left that will cause no clumping action or very little if I'm not careful. Generally I use conditioner to cleans my hair or no poo but now and then I use poo of a sulfate or non sulfate to clarify and that will cause my hair to not clump till the ends.

Most of this is trial and error. If you look at some fotki albums and find someone with similar hair to you and see how they do their routine it will give you a place to start experimenting
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
I have been looking for someone with my curl pattern, but haven't found anyone yet.

I will try the no raking thing and see if that helps!

Thanks!
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
CurlyQ - Not a stupid question at all! I've been struggling with the 'how' of no raking myself. I'm so used to raking my fingers through (at a minimum) to distribute product . . . I tried no raking today with mixed results.

I'll need to try applying products to sections of my hair instead of trying to tackle it all at once.
embracing my inner curl since late Nov 2006
2b/3a (I think?)
color-treated red/brown, medium-textured hair
PJ, currently using Suave citrus smoothie, B2B pom cond, GF C&S leave-in, AG re:coil, LOOB, HE SMU, Jessicurl HCC, CC, AIS
I have had my best hair day yet this morning, I CO washed with Suave Tropical Coconut, put a little of the same as a leave in on slightly soaking wet hair, scrunched in some (alot actually I have lotsa hair) of the Loreal Out of Bed Weightless Texturizer, scrunched in a bit of GF Sleek and Shine for extra canopy hold, plopped for about 30 min, then lightly shook out (still no touching). I rearranged abit of my crown for height, then let air dry the rest of the way. I usually check after about 30 min, if there are any frizzies I spray a little Awe Insp. Then NO MORE TOUCHING until after it dries.
I cannot say enough about the Loreal OOB. It is really great stuff. Best clumping-non crunchy-shine prod I have ever used...pre and post CG.
For $5 I think it is worth a try. If it doesn't work you can always trade it to a friend. It is actually marketed towards people with short, cropped hairstyles.
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YOu get the no raking down eventually. It's easiest if you grab sections like a ponytail and run your hand over it with the product smoothed on your hand and then move on to the next section.
The water in your hair will help distribute it. After I've smoothed and scrunched I do sometimes look and see if the top of my hair looks nice and clumpy and if it doesn't I smooth some gel from root up. By then my hair is sticking up off my head just on top so that makes this easy. Generally though I don't need this. The scrunching I do really well and it does distribute the product. I can feel my hair clump up and I can feel it coated with the product. Once I feel that I can stop scrunching.
Originally Posted by medusahair
I'm going to try that myself on my next wash...too much frizz and stringy curls this winter. That may be a good way to avoid all of that.
3a/3b thick coarse WL dark brown hair. CG/Mod CG since: 5/4/05. Current products: Right now my hair is in such a tizzy over this winter weather we are hving that nothing really seems to be working. I need a haircut.
I think I am going to test out the no raking tomorrow. Maybe if I just rake through every 2 days that will help with clumping. Also, going to look for a conditioner with some peach.

I've read the other thread about the L'Oreal Out of Bed, but it seems like it has a lot of stuff in it that would be hard to get off. Is that true?
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No, Out Of Bed should be okay for you.
SuzenG,

Thanks! I'm off to Walgreen's right now to get some of the coveted L'Oreal Out of Bed!
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
My best clumps....

After washing out condish, clip up wet hair.
Out of shower, apply leave in upsidedown, comb through.
Apply creme upsidedown and comb through.
Scrunch upsidedown.
Plop with mf turban for 30mins
Take off upsidedown, rake, scrunch, flip.
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How do you get the knots out if you don't comb or rake? I have very thick 3c hair, and it takes me a good couple of minutes of combing to get knots out before applying product. My hair also has been very frizzy and stringy lately.
Well, this morning I tried the no raking thing halfway. I did my co-wash with VO5 Ripened Raspberries and that is when I did my raking. I rinsed completely and then followed with my condish and did not rake or comb through. Lighlty rinsed that and then I smoothed OneC into sections and followed with Angell with a drop of honey.

So far, so good. My hair is not dry yet, but the top already looks less frizzy, although I still don't really have any clumping. I tried to get some LOOB yesterday, but the Walgreen's I went to today was fresh out, so hopefully the next one I go to today will have some.

I think I'm going to continue with the no raking after I do my first rinse. There is no way I can completely not rake because my hair just gets too tangled, but probably limiting my raking is helpful.
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.

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