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Old 02-17-2013, 08:18 PM   #1
 
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Default Can I use dimethicone if I clarify weekly?

I tried a conditioner today that I really liked, but it has dimethicone. I know cones are supposed to be bad but as far as I know I have not had issues with it in the past. I'm starting to think all these expensive, sulfate free, organic, silicone free, etc. products I've tried have been for naught because my hair is always healthy regardless. Anyway, just to be safe... If I clarify and DT once a week with AG Renew clarifying shampoo (which has sulfate I believe) and AG Conditioner Deep, would it be ok to continue using the conditioner that has dimethicone (I also shampoo daily when I condition but with sulfate free shampoo)? As far as my hair goes, it's very healthy. I only blow dry it and it hasn't been dyed or bleached. It also has low porosity and most things just sit on it and don't get absorbed into it. I hope this helps. Thanks
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You can use whatever you like; avoiding cones is a choice it is not mandatory. I say if you like it and your hair seems to like it go for it. All the rules and regulations are meant to be used as guidelines but feel free to tweak them to your hair's needs. Everyone's hair is different, and while avoiding cones may be for some it isn't always for. everyone.
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You can use whatever you like; avoiding cones is a choice it is not mandatory. I say if you like it and your hair seems to like it go for it. All the rules and regulations are meant to be used as guidelines but feel free to tweak them to your hair's needs. Everyone's hair is different, and while avoiding cones may be for some it isn't always for. everyone.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:42 PM   #4
 
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I am getting much better results with silicone products. I am considering them to be steroids for wavy hair!
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:31 PM   #5
 
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Of course you can. So long as you're shampooing regularly with sulfates or even gentler surfactants really you can remove silicones. You don't have to outright use a clarifying shampoo either. (Jas knows more about this than I do. There was a thread about this. Also I think the olefin sulfoconate in the Organix shampoos removes heavy duty sulfates too, fyi.) I say play it by ear. If shampooing once a week dries your hair out then switch to a gentler shampoo that also happens to contain a surfactant that removes silicones. Also see how long you can stretch out shampoos without buildup.
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Of course you can. So long as you're shampooing regularly with sulfates or even gentler surfactants really you can remove silicones. You don't have to outright use a clarifying shampoo either. (Jas knows more about this than I do. There was a thread about this. Also I think the olefin sulfoconate in the Organix shampoos removes heavy duty sulfates too, fyi.) I say play it by ear. If shampooing once a week dries your hair out then switch to a gentler shampoo that also happens to contain a surfactant that removes silicones. Also see how long you can stretch out shampoos without buildup.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:52 AM   #7
 
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Yup! Coco betaine will take out cones. You don't need sulfates. And you can most likely just poo with it once a week and be ok.

You will have to watch for build-up, tho.

I was trying a-cone for a bit, but it didnt work out well for me. I may try again in higher dews, however. (I am also considering dimethicone just to see if it was specifically the a-cone that was the problem, or if it was just if it would be the same with any cone.)

Some people have no problem with cones, some have nothing but problems. Myrna had some good luck with her curls and dimethicone, but found she was getting a lot of frizz. Others say that frizz was helped by cone use. :/ I think it depends on the individual. (I have a theory that porosity may play a part, too, and have noticed coarse haired curlies seem to have more luck with cones)

So yes, you are likely fine as long as you are pooing it out at least once a week!
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Jas, which is the cocobetaine poo you use? Is it Johnson's H2T? I've only clarified once but my hair was rather stripped afterwards. (I blame myself for not taking the time to prepoo though.)

I agree about porosity playing a role. I'm highly porous and my hair is much less frizzy without cones. Go figure.
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Dusa - I use Organix Shea for my coco bet. poo. I have also used Renpure Organics Keratin, too, but like the Organix better.

The J&J has sulfates like 4th or 5th on the list, and very few ingredients. I mix EVOO or Burt's bees baby oil with it and use it for clarifying.

If you find any coco bet poo too stripping, I'd suggest mixing a little oil with it, or condition first, then poo, then condition again.

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Like everyone said you use what works. I think we've been brainwashed into thinking someone else knows what's best for our hair, when we are experts on our own hair. If MO, cones, sulfates- WHATEVER works for you, USE it!! And don't stop unless it doesn't anymore.


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Like everyone said you use what works. I think we've been brainwashed into thinking someone else knows what's best for our hair, when we are experts on our own hair. If MO, cones, sulfates- WHATEVER works for you, USE it!! And don't stop unless it doesn't anymore.


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