FYI: Sulfate/Silicone-"Free" HE Products

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I saw someone mention on here awhile ago that Herbal Essences was re-releasing their old scents and packaging sans silicone and sulfates, and I actually saw some of them at my Target. The conditioner had a special "0% sulfates" tag on it and the shampoo had a "0% silicone" tag. I found that odd, considering you wouldn't be worrying about a conditioner having sulfates, so I checked the ingredients and saw just from a quick glance the conditioner had a -xane toward the top and the shampoo had SLS. I didn't keep reading to see how many more were in there. Careful, curlies - these Herbal Essences reformulations aren't good for CGers.

So shady using the silicone/sulfate-free buzz words and selling sulfate shampoos with no silicone and silicone conditioners with no sulfates. SMH, Herbal Essences. SMH.
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Thanks for sharing. Lol, the shampoo sounds like a conditioner and the conditioner sounds like a shampoo!!

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Dang!!! I have always loves the old HE and was planning on trying it out!thanks for the info, I'll skip it now.
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Right there with you Houseofcurls! The old HE line smelled amazing, and I was looking forward to trying it. So disappointing to see the actual ingredients lists. Cyclopentasiloxane and Dimethicone in the conditioner? No thank you. And sulfates in the shampoo? Just no.
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Last edited by Geek_Chic; 02-18-2013 at 09:20 PM. Reason: spelling correction
A while ago i read that companies sometimes use SLS in conditioners as preservative (in fact if present, it is among the last positions of the INCI, so in small quantities).
Anyway i'd never buy such a condish

Often they put the 'No SLES' label on the shampoo bottles, but if you read the INCI name you can find another kind of sulfate (i.e. ammonium or coceth laureth sulfate).

Here in Italy it's difficult to find a 'No Sulfate' shampoo in the supermarkets, unless you check the newborn stuff shelf or the biological one
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I saw someone mention on here awhile ago that Herbal Essences was re-releasing their old scents and packaging sans silicone and sulfates, and I actually saw some of them at my Target. The conditioner had a special "0% sulfates" tag on it and the shampoo had a "0% silicone" tag. I found that odd, considering you wouldn't be worrying about a conditioner having sulfates, so I checked the ingredients and saw just from a quick glance the conditioner had a -xane toward the top and the shampoo had SLS. I didn't keep reading to see how many more were in there. Careful, curlies - these Herbal Essences reformulations aren't good for CGers.

So shady using the silicone/sulfate-free buzz words and selling sulfate shampoos with no silicone and silicone conditioners with no sulfates. SMH, Herbal Essences. SMH.
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
I know this thread is pretty old, but I just noticed this yesterday as I was browsing the hair-care aisle.

The shampoo says 0% Silicone-- but had sulfates, of course. (Which might be good if you needed a nice shampoo to strip out -cones from your hair, as silicone-free sulfate-laden shampoo does seem to be fairly difficult to find...) Then conditioner says 0% Sulfate, which is what caught my eye in the first place because who would expect there to be a conditioner with sulfate in it anyway? I dunno. It seemed like sneaky marketing to me. If someone was looking to detox from both of those, they might grab these up without looking too closely or really thinking about it. Very tricky stuff.

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