Random straight hair

The underside of my hair is straight and has a mind of its own! I've figured out how to get defined curls, but the underside ends up ruining the whole look because it's straight and lifeless. It sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of my hair. Any ideas?
I'm bumping this because my mother has the same problem. (I think she's 2b/2c.) I styled her hair for her when we went to a family event just yesterday. I used a super hard hold gel and got it to look curly on top, wavy in the middle but then there was this straight underlayer. It didn't look bad but it just didn't match the other parts of her hair. Mousse doesn't seem to help with that underlayer either so I wonder what I'm doing wrong or how I can get that area to curl for her.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

DCwavylady do you have a picture? I'm going to try and get one from mom post "styled". I want to see if you two match so we can get two birds with one stone!
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

I have this problem too. It's usually okay as I almost always wear my hair to one side, but I feel like I have a curly mullet.


This picture is on one of my not so good hair days.

Sent from my SGH-T999
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2b-3a, 2b underlayer and straight roots.
low-med porosity, medium density, medium elasticity

CG since Nov '12. Making huge progress!

co wash: Suave Naturals Juicy Green Apple & Daily Clarifying Conditioners
RO: Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Conditioner
LI: GF PCC, water, EVOO & honey in spray bottle!
products i use: L.A. Looks Sport & Mega Mega Hold Gels

My hair hates curl creams and gets over conditioned easily.
It really doesnt look bad.
My best advice woul dbe to trim that bottom layer shorter because if it doesnt shrink up like eveyrthing else, your going to see those straight ends.
Rae ~ 2c/3a ~
Wife to a 3c Curly Guy
Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
I have this problem too. It's usually okay as I almost always wear my hair to one side, but I feel like I have a curly mullet.


This picture is on one of my not so good hair days.

Sent from my SGH-T999
Originally Posted by naaomiij
Huh. . . I don't even see the straight underlayer on yours, don't worry. At least not in that photograph. Wow I've got to get a picture of my mother to show you guys because it's really visible.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

The underside of my hair toward the back is straight most of the time too. Sometimes it'll do a little flip at the very bottom, but pretty much not even that. I think it helps that it's only in the back, because my hair usually ends up coming over my shoulder anyway. Also, I keep that section cut a bit shorter so it doesn't stick out under the rest of my hair. Whenever I've mentioned it to people, they usually say they hadn't noticed.
Fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity. Dyed to brown a few months ago.
Lowpoo:
Trader Joe's TTT Shampoo
Rinse Out:
Yes to Carrots, AOHR, Aubrey Organics Rosemary Peppermint
LI: Yes to Carrots
Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, LA Looks Sports, Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Whipped Mousse
Yup, I had my stylist cut the straight hair shorter so it doesn't stick out and she did a great job! It's just frustrating that it doesn't clump with the rest of my curls.
Maybe that's what it is, my mother's underlayer is very long compared to the ones on top. I actually think her stylist didn't do a good job of blending the last time she cut her hair. Either that or she didn't realize mom has multiple textures on her head.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

Yah, my top layer is 2c/3a, then the middle ish is 2c, then the bottom is 3a/b. so, when my hair is pinned half up, it looks like the bottom layer of my hair is about 4 inches shorter...beautiful curls, amazingly beautiful...but just weird. Lol!
Rae ~ 2c/3a ~
Wife to a 3c Curly Guy
Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
Same here! I have 2C wavier pieces on top (and in these dry spots at the corners), 3A mostly in the middle and ends, and 3B at the nape. I also like to wear my hair pinned half up if I'm going out because those curls underneath are just gorgeous. Too bad they shrink up and don't want to reveal themselves. Last time I got my hair to look more 3Bish than 3Aish was New Years. But I think it was the weather. Very misty.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

the back very end of my hair is straight too
Has anyone come up with a solution? I've been thinking about having it permed. The other night I used a tiny twist to tie up the straight hair underneath the rest of my hair and, although weird, it looked so much better! You could see the defined curls without the straight underside making it look bleh. I'm not sure I would do this outside of the house, but for a split second I wanted to just chop off that section of straight hair!
Random straight hair until it is dry ?
Mine is also much straighter. Part of the problem is genetics, part I believe is that the area is drying out faster than much of the rest of my head, also plopping on top of my head pulls it straight so I never do that. Roller jaw clamps help somewhat, both before and after diffusing to partially dry, also I cut an inch off my underlayer!
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Do the straight bits ever curl? Like, say, when it's really humid? Some people just have a really irregular curl pattern. I know I do. I just live with it -- I've gotten used to how my hair looks, and I don't expect symmetry. I have some much straighter pieces right on the sides, very visible. But it is more uniform when the humidity is high.

The only other thing I could think to try would be clipping the outer layers while drying, somehow, just in case their weight lying on top of the underlayers is making them straighter. But this might not be the issue.

Wurly and proud!
Modified CG since 2008.
Nope! Humidity doesn't get to it. It's stick straight! My latest solution is using a curling iron and a hard hold gel but the curls look weird bc my natural curls are not ringlets. Grrr!
I know there is a before and after
Somewhere on this site of the back hair with a longer straight layer underneath. They had that cut up shorter than the curl layer. I'll keep looking.
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A dry cut can make all the difference in the world. My understory is 3a, and my canopy is 3c. Because it's cut dry, with a light touch on the canopy, the canopy can blend in with the understory, and it just looks like it's all a mixture of tighter and looser curls.

I've also found that as my hair gets longer, the 3a areas are curling better, as 3a hair does when it gets enough length. (According to Jonathan Torch, it takes a minimum of three and a half revolutions for curl to be visually apparent.)
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008

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