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curlymetalgirl 02-27-2013 12:26 PM

Please help..best leave ins for baby fine 3b/3c combo hair
 
Hi ladies! If anyone can help, I know it's you all. I'm brand new to the Curly-Girl method and i'm currently trying to find a routine that works for me. I think i've found my shampoo and rinse out conditioner but I'm completely stumped as to a good, inexpensive leave in conditioner and styler.

My hair is combo 3c/3b. It's mostly loose 3c curls on top, and the bottom and middle are 3b curls. I have normal porosity (i think, as my hair took to chemical treatments very well) and is a fine texture. My hair is baby-fine and very, very soft. It tends to frizz quite easily. I live in Southern California and right now the main problem I'm having to deal with is the dryness and the wind, both of which seem to get worse in winter.

I know that a good leave in conditioner is one of the basic steps to having healthy hair, but i'm having such an incredibly hard time finding one that's inexpensive and good for my hair type. I don't work right now, so anything above $15 is pushing it :sad3:. I'll also post my routine and products so you all can get an idea of what I use.

Also, how in the world do you keep your hair from poofing out at the sides when you sleep? I tried the pineapple and my hair went into the dreaded 'triangle-head' shape. What's worse is that it stayed like that almost ALL DAY. Even a simple braid makes my hair poof out on both sides and it is NOT attractive. I probably need a good curly cut to fix this issue, but then again, I don't know.

Shampoo: Nature's Gate Herbal Daily Cleansing Shampoo (Sulfate and Paraben Free) I've been using this since I had dreadlocks and I really love it.

Conditioner: Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Conditioner(love this stuff)

Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie: I've only used this a few times but i'm starting to think that it's too heavy and rich for my fine hair. I don't particularly like how it tends to weigh down my curls, and it doesn't define them AT ALL. Any ideas for a better styler?

Eco-Styler Moroccan Argan Oil Gel: It's my cousins (who has thicker hair than I do) and I used it on top of the Shea Moisture. I wasn't too pleased with the result of this stuff either. I had massive frizz when I was done with this routine.

Underneath everything, before I apply any product and while my hair is still soaking wet, I apply Moroccan Argan Oil. No complaints there.

So, any ideas for a better leave in and a possible styler? I'm going to try the Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Gel and see if that works. My hair is also to my shoulders when it's curly, and to my breasts when straight. I rarely straighten though.

Thanks ladies!

SpiralSpunk 02-27-2013 01:50 PM

Hi, I'm also from Southern California!

When the weather is dry you don't want to use products with humectants in them and Shea Moisture & Eco Styler both contain glycerin - a humectant. That could be why they're not working and causing frizz.

A glycerin-free leave-in that's pretty popular is Kinky-Curky Knot Today. It's around $12 at Target and I personally really like it.

The Garnier Pure Clean gel also contains glycerin so maybe hold off on that until its not so dry out.

Aussie Instant Freeze is a humectant free gel.

You can also check weather related product recommendations under the grey "care" tab uptop and then "frizz forecast".

I have to ask, how often are you shampooing? Since you're not using anything that should build-up I wonder if you even need a shampoo. Sometimes hair gets unruly because it's dry, even sulfate free shampoo does that to my hair.

As far as when you take your pineapple down - hmm well my hair stands up when I take it down. Probably because it's fine and not weighty enough to just fall back down on its own. I pull it into a low ponytail while I shower and get dressed so it comes back down lol.

curlymetalgirl 02-28-2013 10:08 AM

Hello :)
Thank you so much for replying, and for the suggestions. I don't shampoo my hair often at all, maybe once a week at the most. Instead I switched over to cowashing with my Tresemme Naturals.
That info about humectants is interesting-I didn't know glycerin caused frizz in dry climates. It's been so windy and disgustingly dry where I live lately so that could very well be the issue.

NvmbrCurlss 02-28-2013 04:50 PM

^^^ Second on the KCKT! Love this stuff and my hair does not fair well with humectants either:(

curlymetalgirl 03-01-2013 11:21 AM

@ NvmbrCurls I have seen SO MANY people raving about Kinky Curly Knot Today and I really want to try it one day. This is going to sound so lame but I always hesitated because right now I just can't afford to pay the $13 price. So instead I decided to try the Say Yes To Carrots Leave In Conditioner-lo and behold my hair loved it. I really like that it has a smooth, creamy consistency and is Curly Girl approved (don't quote me on that one though)

SpiralSpunk-the rec that you made suggesting eliminating glycerin as the main humectant in my product was dead on, and I thank you for that suggestion. I did an experiment the other day to test your theory. I used SMSM and had frizz like you wouldn't believe, even with the SYTC underneath it. My hair also got weighed down quickly and had absolutely no definition. Then I used a cream that had no glycerin on the list at all and I had a gorgeous, frizz free hair day. Due to the disgusting dry Santa-Ana's blowing away right now and my baby-fine curls, I think this is my best option. You rock for telling me this! :notworthy:

Now i'm on the hunt for the perfect curl cream...without glycerin, parabens, sulfates or cones. This will be interesting.

Sally's is going to be seeing me much more often these days....

NvmbrCurlss 03-01-2013 09:15 PM

^^^ No lame feelings here...if it's too steep, it's too steep. No worries, u could always try...then use it ONLY for special occasions if u like:) I frequently put the KCKT aside on "no fuss single-braid-to -the-back days" to save it for days when I wear my hair out; my curls enjoy the break from styling and my pockets thank me for alternating with cheaper options...

SpiralSpunk 03-01-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by curlymetalgirl (Post 2128904)
@ NvmbrCurls I have seen SO MANY people raving about Kinky Curly Knot Today and I really want to try it one day. This is going to sound so lame but I always hesitated because right now I just can't afford to pay the $13 price. So instead I decided to try the Say Yes To Carrots Leave In Conditioner-lo and behold my hair loved it. I really like that it has a smooth, creamy consistency and is Curly Girl approved (don't quote me on that one though)

SpiralSpunk-the rec that you made suggesting eliminating glycerin as the main humectant in my product was dead on, and I thank you for that suggestion. I did an experiment the other day to test your theory. I used SMSM and had frizz like you wouldn't believe, even with the SYTC underneath it. My hair also got weighed down quickly and had absolutely no definition. Then I used a cream that had no glycerin on the list at all and I had a gorgeous, frizz free hair day. Due to the disgusting dry Santa-Ana's blowing away right now and my baby-fine curls, I think this is my best option. You rock for telling me this! :notworthy:

Now i'm on the hunt for the perfect curl cream...without glycerin, parabens, sulfates or cones. This will be interesting.

Sally's is going to be seeing me much more often these days....

Well I'm glad cutting out the glycerin worked! These Santa Ana winds need to go! My sinuses are soo dried out blehh.

Don't feel lame, Kinky-Curly is on the more expensive side for hair products, especially when you can find something cheaper that works for you. I didn't know Yes To Carrots had a leave-in I might have to try that.

Also If you click the products tab you can do a product search by ingredients.

Good luck :)

kurlygurly 03-02-2013 01:18 AM

I wonder if Alaffia, Daily Hydrating Conditioner, Coconut & Shea would work. It was tool lite for my hair but was still moisturizing.

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