How to determine hair width?

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  • 2 Post By RizosMio

I'm a bit confused. I was pretty confident that my hair is coarse because you can clearly see each individual hair. My hairdresser thinks my hair is coarse as well, but she has not taken a really close look at it and she is not necessarily specialised in the CG method (as it is everything but well-known in the Netherlands, but each time I see her I try to convert her :-P)

However, it seems that most curlies have thin hair width. How have you determined that? I know it makes a huge difference when it comes to choosing products. Does anyone have any tips as to how I can determine my hair width more accurately?
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Hair texture was around a long time before the CG method, so I'd think your hairdresser could determine that. Can't imagine that, "she has not taken a really close look at it," if she cuts and performs other services on it.

Here's a link from Marsha's Curl Junkie blog, she gives a pictorial example of hair texture: Curl Junkie - Natural Hair Care for all types of Curly Hair!: My 2 cents on Protein/Texture/Porosity/Moisture Balance! :-)
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4)Hair Texture - Fine through normal through Coarse (For the sake of this article, on a 1-10 scale, I'll say that the very finest of hair is a 1 and the coarsest of hair is a 10). I find that most people who think they have really coarse hair don't. This is mainly due to frame of reference. You'd need to feel truly coarse hair (which is typically given as Asian/Native American, although I have felt variations there as well and have seen the coarsest hair in my life on a Caucasian head...2 actually...and they were both red-heads...humm...). This isn't to say that you aren't right, but it is likely that your hair is in the 6-9 range. Just as with fine hair, you'll be in the 2-4 range. It turns out, when I compare my hair strands with other folks hair, that I fall in the normal to fine range (about a 4)...that was a surprise to me!

That was helpful. Thanks.

I think most things with hair are relative (even porosity). We can only tell we are A because someone else is B. And if the OP is in the Netherlands, her stylist may be determining that her hair is course only by the other heads she has seen (which may be a limited demographic). Most, if not all, of my hair is thinner than a sewing thread but I still consider myself course because I am starting with baby fine hair as the comparison.
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You might also be able to tell by the way your hair behaves, especially regarding protein. But I wasn't good at this. I thought my hair was medium and it turned out to be coarse. Mostly because its attributes seemed to line up with medium. Now though I've realized all the little ways my hair winds up in the coarse category. . .
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I determined my hair width by holding one strand between my fingers... hold it still and if you don't really feel it it's fine.

I also thought I was coarse because I can easily see my individual strands... and my hair color is so light! But it's just that my eyesight is amazing, hehehehe.

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I have extremely thick hair. It's low porosity but the strand test doesn't work on me because as the hair is so coarse, I can feel it's every bend and curl, it's not a smooth ride up at all.

I can tell it's coarse because it's always visible, I can spot my hair anywhere...on the floor from a distance. It's about the same thickness as a thread halved in two. The roots (the white bulb) are also huge...my hair is thick everywhere too, not just my head. People always ask me what mascara I'm using (none), sometimes I bleed for a nano-second after plucking my eyebrows...look for these signs. Also, it's a bit TMI but well.... another way to see is by comparing the hair on your head to the hair down under. The hair there will usually be way thicker, but seeing how the two compare will give you an idea of how thin or how thick the hair on your head is.
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I have extremely thick hair. It's low porosity but the strand test doesn't work on me because as the hair is so coarse, I can feel it's every bend and curl, it's not a smooth ride up at all.

I can tell it's coarse because it's always visible, I can spot my hair anywhere...on the floor from a distance. It's about the same thickness as a thread halved in two. The roots (the white bulb) are also huge...my hair is thick everywhere too, not just my head. People always ask me what mascara I'm using (none), sometimes I bleed for a nano-second after plucking my eyebrows...look for these signs. Also, it's a bit TMI but well.... another way to see is by comparing the hair on your head to the hair down under. The hair there will usually be way thicker, but seeing how the two compare will give you an idea of how thin or how thick the hair on your head is.
Originally Posted by RizosMio
I agree with you.
In addition my dermatologist once told me if your eyebrows and lashes are sparse you have low density or vise versa thick lashes high density.
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This is a very informative thread. Nikitatev, what you wrote makes sense. My lashes/brows are fairly full compared to my friend who has thin hair. Also Rizosmio, I can always spot my hair from across the room. (At least when I'm wearing my glasses.)
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Thanks for all the information! I had seen the comparisons on the Curl Junkie blog, but that made me doubt my own observations even more. Maybe I should try and see if I can scale it on her 1-10 scale :-)

I will also observe closely how my hair reacts to protein. Curl Queen is full of protein and I will order a no-protein styler next time (my conditioner has no protein).
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Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new low poo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
Very informative thread! I'm still convinced I have medium hair.
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