Homemade FSG pros. . . a little help?

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im really new to this fsg thing, i might try and go buy some seeds sometime but i need to clear some things up. right, so how long should you boil for, for the best results if you dont want too thick, or too thin? how many seeds do you put in and how much water? can you re use the seeds more than once, if so how many times? lastly, if you dont put oil in your fsg, how long will it last? please answer, thanks
Originally Posted by justdoingme
I follow the recipe in the first post in this thread: No-fail flax seed gel - I finally did it...TWICE!

On my stove, I only boil the seeds for 2.5 minutes and it comes out perfect. If I boil for any longer, it won't go through my strainer at all. I think my stove might be really, really hot though. The trick for me is to stop boiling once it starts to look like the consistency of egg whites. It hardens a little after it cools down.

I reused the seeds last week. I boiled 1/4 cup of seeds once, extracted the gel, and then put the seeds and another cup of water back in the same pot and did it again to make a double batch. I ended up with more than enough for one week of use. If you want to reuse the seeds on a different day, you have to freeze them to keep them from turning.

I don't put any preservatives in my gel. I about a week's worth at once and store it in the fridge. I only take it out to put it in my hair in the morning.

You can experiment to see whether you like it thick or thin. I think it is a matter of preference.
2b/c, high density
fine, medium porosity, normal elasticity
loves protein, hates polyquats
still searching for HGs
Ok guys... what type of strainer do you use for FSG? Can anyone recommend a certain brand/model? I think mine has very small holes in it and it is just being a pain in the behind. Since my stove is so hot and I can only boil my seeds for about 2.5 minutes, there is this incredibly narrow window of time for me to remove the gel from the heat and strain it before it's too thick and I have to do it all over again. (which is what happened last night )
2b/c, high density
fine, medium porosity, normal elasticity
loves protein, hates polyquats
still searching for HGs
I use a screen strainer.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
The last time (last week) I made FSG, I used a new technique I read about somewhere on this site and it came out so good! Not thin, but thick. When finished, it made about 1-1.5 c of gel.

Here is what I did:

  • Placed 1/4 c of flaxseeds in a knee-high panty hose and knotted the top closed.
  • Placed it in a pot containing 2 c of water.
  • Bring it to a boil and then turn it down to lo-medium and let it simmer for 10-11 minutes.
  • I would occasionally (using tongs) flip the hose around in the pan and squish it up against the side of the pan.
  • The cool thing about this method is that you can get it thicker than if you needed to strain the seeds afterwards. The water does boil down by about 1/2.
  • While the gel is still hot, I whisk in my essential oils, epsom salt, and my slurry of arrowroot (thickener- I put about 2 tsp to 1 tbsp of arrowroot with about two tbsp water and mixed until dissolved), and preservative.
  • The gel turns whitish and cloudy right after the arrowroot is added, but continue to stir over low heat (not letting it boil again) and let the arrowroot cook a bit. The gel will slowly turn clear again.
JulesOnline

3A/B? A corkicelli mix of ringlets, spirals, helixes & s-shaped curls
Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


Summer: pink; Winter: Blue; Year Round: green
Lo-Poo:Giovanni SAS sulfate free poo, L'Oreal Evercream CC
Co-wash: TNRV, VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TNNM
RO/LI:
YTC, Nexxus Hydra-light w/ CNPF GVPCB, Biolage CB, TNNM, Giovanni SAS
Styler: KCCC FSG, BRHG, LALSG



Hi ladies, I just made my first batch tonight and have yet to try it out. The first time I did it, it wouldn't strain. So then I tried again and it seems too runny. I later saw this post on Pinterest that had several tips & recipes for FSG. One of the recipes is a no stir method in which you put the seeds in nylon and let them steep in the water. It looks like doing it this way you can let it cook longer and get thicker. Has anyone tried this? Does the thickness or the FSG make a big difference?
Pinterest post: Benefits Of Flaxseed Gel For Holding Curls, Waves & Kinks - HairBoutique.com Blog
I have done this method with success.
JulesOnline

3A/B? A corkicelli mix of ringlets, spirals, helixes & s-shaped curls
Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


Summer: pink; Winter: Blue; Year Round: green
Lo-Poo:Giovanni SAS sulfate free poo, L'Oreal Evercream CC
Co-wash: TNRV, VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TNNM
RO/LI:
YTC, Nexxus Hydra-light w/ CNPF GVPCB, Biolage CB, TNNM, Giovanni SAS
Styler: KCCC FSG, BRHG, LALSG



Hi ladies, I just made my first batch tonight and have yet to try it out. The first time I did it, it wouldn't strain. So then I tried again and it seems too runny. I later saw this post on Pinterest that had several tips & recipes for FSG. One of the recipes is a no stir method in which you put the seeds in nylon and let them steep in the water. It looks like doing it this way you can let it cook longer and get thicker. Has anyone tried this? Does the thickness or the FSG make a big difference?
Pinterest post: Benefits Of Flaxseed Gel For Holding Curls, Waves & Kinks - HairBoutique.com Blog
Originally Posted by stefflg79
In fact, if you read my post right above yours I describe that method!
JulesOnline

3A/B? A corkicelli mix of ringlets, spirals, helixes & s-shaped curls
Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


Summer: pink; Winter: Blue; Year Round: green
Lo-Poo:Giovanni SAS sulfate free poo, L'Oreal Evercream CC
Co-wash: TNRV, VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TNNM
RO/LI:
YTC, Nexxus Hydra-light w/ CNPF GVPCB, Biolage CB, TNNM, Giovanni SAS
Styler: KCCC FSG, BRHG, LALSG



If only there was a fool-proof "put this in the bottle an your FSG will be shelf ready" solution - FSG would be my HG.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Hi ladies, I just made my first batch tonight and have yet to try it out. The first time I did it, it wouldn't strain. So then I tried again and it seems too runny. I later saw this post on Pinterest that had several tips & recipes for FSG. One of the recipes is a no stir method in which you put the seeds in nylon and let them steep in the water. It looks like doing it this way you can let it cook longer and get thicker. Has anyone tried this? Does the thickness or the FSG make a big difference?
Pinterest post: Benefits Of Flaxseed Gel For Holding Curls, Waves & Kinks - HairBoutique.com Blog
Originally Posted by stefflg79
Do you use "nylon" stockings or buy nylon bags some place. If you buy something to put the seeds in, where do you get it? I googled "nylon bag" and purses came up. TIA
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I think she said she used a nylon stocking (knee high), but what about THIS? It's extra large (4") for big batches.

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Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
I think she said she used a nylon stocking (knee high), but what about THIS? It's extra large (4") for big batches.

Amazon.com: NEW, Extra-Large Jumbo-Size, Twist-Lock Spice Ball Tea Infuser Herb Infuser, Stainless Steel, Extra Large Size (4" x 4"): Home & Kitchen
Originally Posted by chloe92us

I actually tried one of those but the seeds just got all clumped inside. For some reason it did not work out for me so well.
JulesOnline

3A/B? A corkicelli mix of ringlets, spirals, helixes & s-shaped curls
Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


Summer: pink; Winter: Blue; Year Round: green
Lo-Poo:Giovanni SAS sulfate free poo, L'Oreal Evercream CC
Co-wash: TNRV, VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TNNM
RO/LI:
YTC, Nexxus Hydra-light w/ CNPF GVPCB, Biolage CB, TNNM, Giovanni SAS
Styler: KCCC FSG, BRHG, LALSG



Hi ladies, I just made my first batch tonight and have yet to try it out. The first time I did it, it wouldn't strain. So then I tried again and it seems too runny. I later saw this post on Pinterest that had several tips & recipes for FSG. One of the recipes is a no stir method in which you put the seeds in nylon and let them steep in the water. It looks like doing it this way you can let it cook longer and get thicker. Has anyone tried this? Does the thickness or the FSG make a big difference?
Pinterest post: Benefits Of Flaxseed Gel For Holding Curls, Waves & Kinks - HairBoutique.com Blog
Originally Posted by stefflg79
Do you use "nylon" stockings or buy nylon bags some place. If you buy something to put the seeds in, where do you get it? I googled "nylon bag" and purses came up. TIA
Originally Posted by kathymack

I used plus size nylon knee-highs
JulesOnline

3A/B? A corkicelli mix of ringlets, spirals, helixes & s-shaped curls
Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


Summer: pink; Winter: Blue; Year Round: green
Lo-Poo:Giovanni SAS sulfate free poo, L'Oreal Evercream CC
Co-wash: TNRV, VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TNNM
RO/LI:
YTC, Nexxus Hydra-light w/ CNPF GVPCB, Biolage CB, TNNM, Giovanni SAS
Styler: KCCC FSG, BRHG, LALSG



I think she said she used a nylon stocking (knee high), but what about THIS? It's extra large (4") for big batches.

Amazon.com: NEW, Extra-Large Jumbo-Size, Twist-Lock Spice Ball Tea Infuser Herb Infuser, Stainless Steel, Extra Large Size (4" x 4"): Home & Kitchen
Originally Posted by chloe92us

I actually tried one of those but the seeds just got all clumped inside. For some reason it did not work out for me so well.
Originally Posted by Julesonline
I used something similar--it didn't work for me, either. I'll have to see if I have some "regular" nylon knee highs. I got rid of all that stuff when I retired YEARS ago!
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
Good to know the ball strainers don't work, I would have ordered one!
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
I feel a bit silly now but I've read the entire thread and I'm still wondering... What does FSG exactly do for your hair in terms of hold, moisture, enhancing, clumping, defining?
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

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Update: I got some flaxseeds!
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Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
I feel a bit silly now but I've read the entire thread and I'm still wondering... What does FSG exactly do for your hair in terms of hold, moisture, enhancing, clumping, defining?
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
FSG and okra gel act the same way- I have more experience with okra gel. What I can say, is it DOES IT ALL!!!!!!!
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2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
Which type of flaxseed do you use and which one works best, the golden flaxseeds or dark flaxseeds?
3a (protein sensitive)
Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity



Cleansers: Mop-C Hydrating Shampoo, JCGLS
Conditioners: CJCR, CK Renew
Leave-in: CJCR, CK Satin Roots
Stylers: HEBE, UFDCM
Deep Conditioner: CJCR
Standby items:GVP K-Pak
I'm going to make my first FSG batch tomorrow (or today, if I'm too impatient) and I have a few questions.

- I don't have tongs lying around now. It's Whitsun today and tomorrow so I can't get them at the moment. Are there any tips as to what I could use instead?
- I didn't get any oils yet, because I figured trying plain FSG first to see what happens and what my hair needs would make sense. Do you agree or should I get some oils etc first?
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
I don't use tongs, but you will need a very fine mesh strainer. Or were you going to use panty hose?
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip

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