Tightly Curly Method vs CG Method

mycurlytresses · 03-11-2013, 06:54 AM

Has anyone tried both of these? Your experience? Your preference?

I have done the CG Method since my big chop last July. However I am curious to try something new hence The Tightly Curly Method by Teri LaFlesh (http://www.tightlycurlymethod.com). I have been doing CG so I am scared of cones to a point. But I have seen beautiful curls on here from people that use cones. The CONFUSION.

I love Teri's hair..don't want mine that long...but hers is beautiful.

Any help would be so appreciated.

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nanachan · 03-11-2013, 08:31 AM

I use a combination of her method and the CG method. I don't always shampoo, but I cant give it up. I love shampoo. I use the Shea Moister Yucca (and something else) for fine and brittle hair, or the pink coconut one. They're AMAZING and clean but hydrate my hair (and don't actually have soap or sulfates)

and then i use the Trader Joes spa conditioner (blue and white one) and let me tell you, SO MUCH SLIP. it makes combing out my hair sooooooooo easy. When I used that, I don't need a comb, i can just finger de-tangle.
I like CG, but sometimes, its a TON of work, and at the end of the day, taking my time once a week to shampoo, is like a treat for myself

mycurlytresses · 03-11-2013, 08:41 AM

I started this weekend and was going cone free but wondering if results would be better with her recommended products that have cones since that has been her routine. Goodness, boredom will get you in trouble. My hair is short so wash and go has been what I have done every day for the last seven months. Getting bored. I like that the conditioner dries way faster but I also like that the gel defines better. Used Hello Hydration to cowash this morning. It has cones so I am feeling guilty like I am on a diet and been caught bingeing.

Used Tresseme Naturals Jojoba and Coconut as leave in. I can't find Trader Joe or Giovanni locally and if they have aloe I wouldn't be able to use them (allergic to aloe).

I guess I can stick with this at least a week so I can see what my hair actually will tolerate. Trial and error.

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nanachan · 03-11-2013, 09:03 AM

I'm not sure if TJ has aloe, but I would also look into the Herbal Essence chamomile and rose bottles. these are their 90's conditioner, and they smell like my childhood. really amazing consistency and smell really nice (i don't like super sweet or fruity) and i always put it in the shower rinse just a bit, and then leave a good amount it. I get great definition. LOVE it.

tricello · 03-11-2013, 09:06 AM

This is the first time I have seen this. It seems IMO that with Tightly Curly, it isthe technique that is most important – not the products. I think carefully smoothing the product like howshe does - curl by curl - is the key addition or change from the standard CurlyGirl technique. For those of us with kinkin our hair, I think it helps with setting an actual style versus the scrunchand go method. At least with me, a typical scrunch and plopsession can result in messy looking hair.

Marci · 03-11-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mycurlytresses

Used Hello Hydration to cowash this morning. It has cones so I am feeling guilty like I am on a diet and been caught bingeing.

Please don't feel this way. I was strict CG for almost a year and started using Hello Hydration about a month ago. My hair is fine and I love this cheap, effective conditioner. Use whatever works on your hair, no guilty feelings needed

RizosMio · 03-11-2013, 09:42 AM

There is absolutely nothing wrong with silicones. They need to be washed out regularly but that's it, they aren't damaging at all. I've never read the CG book because it appears to be very heavily opinionated and not factual. Science doesn't agree with silicones being harmful to the hair.

A good reference: Does Silicone Suffocate Hair

mycurlytresses · 03-11-2013, 10:23 AM

I will check it out. I do have to watch the smell...noticed the smell does linger and if too strong I won't be able to sleep at night because I will feel like I am smothering because smells intensify on me body when I am sleeping (wake up smelling like I drenched myself in the fragrance).

Thanks nanachan.

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mycurlytresses · 03-11-2013, 10:26 AM

That is the hard part...as far a patience. Smoothing and separating each curl. Tried the doodles but that takes longer so I will stick with smoothing and separating.

Thank you tricello.

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mycurlytresses · 03-11-2013, 10:28 AM

Thank you, thank you, thank you Marci!

I was really berating myself.

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Julesonline · 03-11-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RizosMio

There is absolutely nothing wrong with silicones. They need to be washed out regularly but that's it, they aren't damaging at all. I've never read the CG book because it appears to be very heavily opinionated and not factual. Science doesn't agree with silicones being harmful to the hair.

A good reference: Does Silicone Suffocate Hair

Hi,

The CG method says to avoid silicones because of the sulfates needed to remove them. I am a scientific person by nature and it is my experience that for every study that supports one position there is one that supports the other. I think as with most products, an individual's response to an ingredient can vary. While some have no issues with silicones, others do. I for one have used them in the past and my hair did not like them at all.

I also do not think they've been out long enough to truly know the long term safety of them. The testing required and formulations for Heath and beauty products are not regulated by the FDA so, IMO, there are a lot of ingredients on the market that have after the fact been shown to have negative consequences to us.

mycurlytresses · 03-11-2013, 10:33 AM

Oh thank you so much RizosMio!

You all are wonderful on this site!

I just went natural last year for the first time at age 40 (41 now). It's been an interesting journey.

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mycurlytresses · 03-11-2013, 10:38 AM

Thank you Julesonline. If my hair starts to resemble straw I will return to no cones.

I just don't want to live in fear of an ingredient.

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Julesonline · 03-11-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mycurlytresses

Thank you Julesonline. If my hair starts to resemble straw I will return to no cones.

I just don't want to live in fear of an ingredient.

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And you shouldn't live in fear of an ingredient. Just do what's best for your hair being educated about what you are using

mycurlytresses · 03-11-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Julesonline

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Originally Posted by mycurlytresses

Thank you Julesonline. If my hair starts to resemble straw I will return to no cones.

I just don't want to live in fear of an ingredient.

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And you shouldn't live in fear of an ingredient. Just do what's best for your hair being educated about what you are using

Thank you.

Why can't there be one miracle product that works on everyone?

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RizosMio · 03-11-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Julesonline

Hi,

The CG method says to avoid silicones because of the sulfates needed to remove them. I am a scientific person by nature and it is my experience that for every study that supports one position there is one that supports the other. I think as with most products, an individual's response to an ingredient can vary. While some have no issues with silicones, others do. I for one have used them in the past and my hair did not like them at all

Sulfates do what they're formulated to do though, they cleanse the scalp of everything. If this is what one needs, then it's a great ingredient for it. Conditioners deposit on hair what the sulfates removed. I understand what the creator of the CG method was trying to say, but I wish she didn't paint sulfates/silicones as bad in the process. They are not bad, they have their purpose. I personally dislike using oils and protein, it doesn't make them bad and it doesn't garner a book claiming they're useless. That's my issue with the book, basically.

Technically I myself follow the CG method since I don't shampoo (I don't cowash though) and my products don't contain silicones. I think a much more well-rounded book is the Science of Black Hair. It tells you the purpose of silicones, the purpose of sulfates, mineral oil, petrolatum...it lets the reader see that while there might be better options for X,Y,Z, these aren't damaging and it depends on what you need/are looking for.