Is it just me?

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(Disclaimer: I'm not trying to single anyone out, offend anyone, etc. just ranting a tiny bit and expressing personal opinion. Read at your own risk!)

...or do the same questions come onto this forum all the time? I'm not trying to be rude or a downer or anything but are people really taking the time to search through the forum for answers to the questions they have? I don't have a lot of posts but I've been lurking for 2 years or so. And the whole time I usually didn't have to ask questions because I could just A) Google it or B) search the NC forums..

2nd gripe: Seriously, just because someone's hair looks like yours DOES NOT mean their products will work for you. Similar looking hair can have very different properties. Go check your hair texture, porosity, and elasticity. I know we can all get caught up the in curl typing system (totally bogus IMO), but certain products work for certain kinds of hair (texture wise). The best thing when asking a question about product recommendations is to ask something like "I have medium texture, low-normal porosity hair, does anyone know good products for this?" or "I have fine, high porosity hair should I use a DT or a PT?"

I can use lots of products that are recommended towards 2A, 2B curls or even products for 4A, 4B. I'm positive lots of people have experienced this and frankly I find the curl typing system a sort of gimmick that encourages people to be product junkies instead of getting them to a solution for their hair woes.

What are other peoples thoughts on this?
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1) Yes it happens, but that's what keeps the boards going. It would be pretty boring if no one posted and then I doubt there would be as many users.

2) that's why people list properties in their signatures.


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2a/b
medium/thick
high porosity (from coloring)

Shampoo: Mop Top Gentle Shampoo
Co-wash: Chistophe Robin Lemon Cleansing Cream
RO: CJ strengthening, Kenra moisturizing
LI: Jessicurl Aloeba
DT: CJ rehab, Christophe Robin Prickly Pear Mask
PT: SS protein treatment, Ouidad 12 minute
Stylers: Jessicurl RR, SS Firm Hold Gel
Oils: caudalie, sweet almond
Totally agree with you. It's why we've lost a lot of the veteran posters. In the past, when there have been a lot of similar threads at the same time, we've pointed that out. Another thing that sometimes happens is that you don't answer, you give the links to similar threads.
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Part of the community aspect is yhe conversation. Asking questions and getting answers. And although a topic in the past may cover your question, a new poster may have a new idea or a new product that a question may prompt them to talk about.

Plus, people want to interact and be involved, not just read old threads.

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I notice that even as a newbie to the boards, but I will also say that the search function sucks, frankly. It's nearly impossible to find what you're looking for using it. With all of the terms and acronyms that people use here, it's hard to even know what to search FOR. Also, I think a lot of newbies start with their hair type (2a, 4c, whatever) because it's the easiest to figure out. It's information overload for a lot of us! And most people have never heard of porosity or protein loving hair, let alone do we know if our hair likes it or not!
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2C with some 3A if all the stars align
Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
No sulfates since 2009
CG since 2013

In my stash:
Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
The search function does not work for me, and I frankly don't have the time to read through dozens of threads to find an answer. When the search function bring up 4,5,6 year old threads in the first 5 pages I will not read them. Ingredients in products change all the time same with new ways to battle frizz, volume etc.
I do think the curl typing is important. We have three different types of curlies in the house and the same product gives different results to different curl types even if the properties are the same.
I take the sm curly souffle for an example, in my hair it gives me volume hold and shine no crunch and not curl enhancing at all, my daughter 3b / coarse it is incredible curl enhancing, no clumping , no shine but leaves a crunch that is hard to get out, my son is a 4c and it does nothing for his hair, no curl no clump no shine no crunch just blah. My friend has the same curl type as me with different properties and the souffle works the same for her.
Right now curl type and dew point is more important for me then properties.
I think if the curl typing will be removed it will be a lot harder to find products and ways that work for your hair
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2c/3a cg 01/10/13

Hair Properties: low( first 4 inches) / high porosity, medium density, fine/medium texture Climate : hot humid summer, coastal GA

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut / Everlasting Sunshine, V05
Rinse out :Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, VO5 ocean refresh
LI: SMCHM ,SMCS, JCRR,
Gel: La Looks sport, Volumax mega gel,Biosilk Rock Hard gel my HG

Love ACV , pedaheh's gelatin treatment
My hair hates everything Deva curl and Curl Keeper,
I notice that even as a newbie to the boards, but I will also say that the search function sucks, frankly. It's nearly impossible to find what you're looking for using it. With all of the terms and acronyms that people use here, it's hard to even know what to search FOR. Also, I think a lot of newbies start with their hair type (2a, 4c, whatever) because it's the easiest to figure out. It's information overload for a lot of us! And most people have never heard of porosity or protein loving hair, let alone do we know if our hair likes it or not!
Originally Posted by Luuuuucy
Thank you! Yes I care for and about my hair but I don't have time to learn hundreds of acronyms! Often a product search will not be successful unless you use the acronym, while the "sticky" is helpful its not complete and hard to find "your " product.
And while it is sometimes helpful when an "oldie" post a link for a thread from way back when, I have recently come across one where ingredients of the product changed and the old review was useless.
2c/3a cg 01/10/13

Hair Properties: low( first 4 inches) / high porosity, medium density, fine/medium texture Climate : hot humid summer, coastal GA

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut / Everlasting Sunshine, V05
Rinse out :Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, VO5 ocean refresh
LI: SMCHM ,SMCS, JCRR,
Gel: La Looks sport, Volumax mega gel,Biosilk Rock Hard gel my HG

Love ACV , pedaheh's gelatin treatment
My hair hates everything Deva curl and Curl Keeper,
I agree, searching through old threads is not as easy as it sounds like it would be. Not only do you have to find the old thread, but then read through 30 comments sometimes until you find a reply that contains what you're looking for.

Just to clear things up, I HAVE done this in the past and I still find information this way, but sometimes it's better to just ask a question yourself and, fun to participate in the social portion of the site. Plus, the answers you get will sometimes be different than those from a previous post because they come from different users and are more specific to you.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's really a terribly bothersome issue. Even links to old threads help as answers.
2C/B; Low porosity; Fine; Med. density

Low-Poo: L'Oreal Evercurl
CO: V05 Kiwi Lime
RO: SN Coconut; CJ Smoothing Lotion
LI: Ouidad Curl Quencher
Style: CJ CCCCL; CiaB; FSG!
PT: Gelatin
Modified CG since 2/13
I understand asking questions now that were otherwise discussed more than two years ago. But as a suggestion, I don’t think you (the general you) need to start a whole new thread every time you have a slightly new question or idea. Just keep going on the same thread. “Thread Drift” is perfectly acceptable, and having 1 thread with 25 posts is easier to follow IMO than 4 threads with 3 posts each on essentially the same topic.

And I'm pretty sure that is proper message board etiquette for any subject.
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High Density, High Porosity, Medium Texture, 3B with some kink

DT: SS DDMT - HG
Lo-Poo: No Preference
Co-wash: CJ Smoothing Conditioner
RO: CJ Strengthening Conditioner - HG
LI: CK Satin Roots
Styler: CK Coil Jam
Other Likes: Castor Oil; CK Twist Whip, MD CSC
Dislikes: Wheat Protein; Aloe LIs or Stylers


Last edited by tricello; 03-13-2013 at 08:00 AM.
I'm gonna have to agree with both sides on this one. I lurked for two months before I joined and started posting, and I read through tons of posts in that time. I definitely am annoyed when the same questions are asked a day or two apart because its not that hard or time consuming to read back a few months for info. I also don't understand why newbies don't get that properties matter more than type, that was one of the first things I figured out, though I don't remember how.
That said, the search feature is annoying, it won't accept two letter words (most acronyms) and searching for something like 'fine hair' yields hundreds of posts with either word, not the phrase. Not sure how any of this can be fixed. Although putting this post in a sticky might help. Speaking of that, there are also too many stickies with too much non-info in them, I think if the main points were consolidated and the superfluous stuff were removed newbies would have an easier time finding info.
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2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
glycerin, honey, oils & butters Protein!
I understand asking questions now that were otherwise discussed more than two years ago. But as a suggestion, I don’t think you (the general you) need to start a whole new thread every time you have a slightly new question or idea. Just keep going on the same thread. “Thread Drift” is perfectly acceptable, and having 1 thread with 25 posts is easier to follow IMO than 4 threads with 3 posts each on essentially the same topic.

And I'm pretty sure that is proper message board etiquette for any subject.
Originally Posted by tricello
Agreed, so long as I can find the thread :-)
2c/3a cg 01/10/13

Hair Properties: low( first 4 inches) / high porosity, medium density, fine/medium texture Climate : hot humid summer, coastal GA

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut / Everlasting Sunshine, V05
Rinse out :Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, VO5 ocean refresh
LI: SMCHM ,SMCS, JCRR,
Gel: La Looks sport, Volumax mega gel,Biosilk Rock Hard gel my HG

Love ACV , pedaheh's gelatin treatment
My hair hates everything Deva curl and Curl Keeper,
I like that this board is active. I am part of another board that insists on searching before ever posting - they don't tolerate much. I get it as it is mainly an information board and that is fine, it certainly is not a community atmosphere but it is really loaded and compact with info. I love the enthusiasm here and the community atmosphere - I like seeing a new person embrace and love their "new" curls. I like seeing the transitions and I like how more experienced curlies share even after years of hanging around here. But everyone seems to have useful and thoughtful things to say. If I see a thread that does not interest me I simply don't read it. (Those are mostly about certain brands and products that aren't available to me.)



Enjoy! Carry on!
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Well said, Zigazaga!

IMO, the constant question of, "What's my curl type?" can be a little annoying but doesn't this site make you figure that out when you first sign up for an account? I think it's great that the more experienced help others realize that finding out their texture, porosity level, elasticity, density and sensitivities are more important so we can point them in the right direction. I love what Kathymack does, she give them a link to Live Curly Live Free to guide them.

I agree that sometimes people should use google (when I think its obvious) before posting. If I come across something that annoys me I just don't read it.

The search engine is terrible. I have been using google to search for answers but when I just can't find what I'm looking for, then it's time to post it a question. I love reading but I rarely post because it takes me so long to get the wording right
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3a ~ Fine ~ High Porosity ~ Normal Density

NoPoo: JC Cleansing Cream
Rinse Outs: SS:PRT, CJ Repair Me, CJ Argan
Detangler: KCKT
Leave-in: CJ Repair me
Stylers: UFDCM, BRHG
Refreshers: Batiste (dry shampoo) on the roots & UFDCM everywhere else

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Yes, to both. On the first, tho, it doesn't bother me. I agree with everyone here: the search function is awful, at least on the app, which is what I use 99% of the time. Newbies don't always realize their question may have been asked before, or what the proper search terms are to find it, etc. the question coming up again means new people can contribute new info.

And again, it just doesn't bother me. Maybe bc i'm a teacher and accustomed to repeating myself and having to share the same info with a new group of people. If it bothers someone else, I'd suggest just skipping over it!

I try to pop in even if I've answered it before, if I feel I have info that might be helpful to that person. Yes, I do often link to other threads, or at least inform the person of another thread that is related.

When someone is new here, I might explain about the stickies as the newbie area, etc, but I do not want them to be afraid to ask questions for fear they may have already been asked. This forum is to help each other, not to form a text book of info that people look through. It of course does that, as well, but I think the whole point is asking questions.

And at a certain point... Your questions stop or at least become minimal. Then you are more answering than asking. I think that is more why veteran posters leave. You start to really notice the repetition because you aren't asking much and are mainly answering. Lucky for you in that case, bc if you are in a position to help more than need help, likely you have reached a fairly consistent routine and a good understanding of your own hair.


Totally agree on the properties vs curl type issue! I always try to inform people of that whenever it appears they may not be aware. I know I wasn't when I first came here!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I understand asking questions now that were otherwise discussed more than two years ago. But as a suggestion, I don’t think you (the general you) need to start a whole new thread every time you have a slightly new question or idea. Just keep going on the same thread. “Thread Drift” is perfectly acceptable, and having 1 thread with 25 posts is easier to follow IMO than 4 threads with 3 posts each on essentially the same topic.

And I'm pretty sure that is proper message board etiquette for any subject.
Originally Posted by tricello
Totally agree with you. This is a topic that comes up every so often. And while developing a routine may be a reason to stop coming on nc.com, there were too many veteran posters who were hard core pj's who don't come on anymore--and this was the reason they gave.

This won't be popular, but one of the things that really gets to me is that people think their time is too valuable to have to look for an answer. Not sure why their time would be considered more valuable then my time. If you notice, I have a lot of posts--and I don't respond to curl type questions, the repetitive/redundant posts (especially if I know there's a recent thread on the subject), etc. If I did, I can only imagine the number!

Information you get on the internet (and nc.com especially) is only as good as the knowledge base of the person who is posting it. If people show that they are not invested in doing any work to learn, the people who could really help them usually won't.

While the search function on nc.com isn't the best, there are better ways to use it. You can use the google search function or the advanced search function on nc.com and limit the search factors (titles, hair forums, etc.) That gives you better information.

This is an issue that will never be resolved. People can choose to do what they want to do. You can answer questions, or not. Everyone has control over what they do here--that's what it's all about.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I think acceptance is such a huge part of trying something new. One of the best things about this forum is that people are supportive and helpful. I'm always very nervous to post something, especially when creating a new topic. And if I'd get a few replies that are all "sigh... this has been asked a million times, newbie..." I'd be very discouraged. The main goal is to get people to accept their hair and treat it well.

As a newbie I do know how overwhelming this info can be. I spent a good 2 days straight (a weekend) searching this forum from top to bottom. And I signed up after I had everything (or mostly everything) figured out. Nevertheless, I completely see where people just get confused and helpless and just post a question that has been asked a million times.
I think acceptance is such a huge part of trying something new. One of the best things about this forum is that people are supportive and helpful. I'm always very nervous to post something, especially when creating a new topic. And if I'd get a few replies that are all "sigh... this has been asked a million times, newbie..." I'd be very discouraged. The main goal is to get people to accept their hair and treat it well.

As a newbie I do know how overwhelming this info can be. I spent a good 2 days straight (a weekend) searching this forum from top to bottom. And I signed up after I had everything (or mostly everything) figured out. Nevertheless, I completely see where people just get confused and helpless and just post a question that has been asked a million times.
Originally Posted by Monkey_
This!

I think we all need to remember what it was like when we first came here, and remember what it is like when you go through a frustrating hair phase. Lol!

I don't disagree that some people are just not going to search bc they don't want to bother. But plenty of people don't know to, or what to search for, or have trouble with it, etc.

I get some questions are a little annoying and/or repetitive. So just ignore them and move on!

We need more compassion and tolerance in the world, people! Lol!

And frankly, it's a hair board - it's just not that big of a deal! Lol!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I agree with jas. also, try to remember that this forum thing is weird to someone who is not used to forums. When I joined NC.com about 5 months ago, I could not figure this whole site out. Posting threads and responses were like brain numbing to me. I'm a pretty tech savvy person not usually turned off but difficult layouts but this was hard! I did post the famous, "Help me! What kind of hair do I have?" And got one or two responses. I read more and more and learned more, thanks to Kathymacks response to my stupid thread. Even tho she's probably got the link bookmarked (cuz she's posted it a bunch since I've been here, even!) it still is helpful.

Maybe it is redundant, maybe it's annoying, but if it hurts your feelings so bad, skip it.
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CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
Sorry for such a late reply! Been incredibly busy lately and have had no time to check the forums as usual. I will agree that the search function on NC is really terrible (hence why I just use google or another search engine to get results).

I guess I just worry that companies are kind of taking advantage of people when they talk about "curl type" and pretty much ignore the things that make or break a product in a person's hair. I can easily say i've spent hundreds (maybe a thousand...) on products alone that i've had to either give away or try to find a different use for.

I totally love the interactive discussion on these forums. There are a lot of people that have interesting, oddball, or great opinions that I enjoy reading. But I have to admit I hate seeing every 3-5 forum topics being "what's my curl type (pics included!!!!!11!)"... it occasionally frustrates me and I honestly find that there are quite a number of people that won't even bother doing research to find out information but instantly ask in a new thread when they could have looked at a blog (like CurlyNikki) and found their answer. I really don't want to sound like a crabby person because l really enjoy the forums. Just wish that some people would put in more effort and I really wish NC would spruce up the search functions.

On a total side note, i'd love to see a thread on where you can get certain products in a brick and mortar store rather than online. Sometimes I hate always having to order everything online and i'd like to just be able to go to the store to pick it up . I love curlmart but the shipping is kinda pricey to me.

**spiral solutions PREASE come to a store near meeeee**
Honestly, I've been lurking here since high school (I'm a junior in college now), and the repetitiveness doesn't bug me much. I kind of like answering the basic questions for people; it makes me feel smart. XD Also, product changes can be hard, especially for people going no-poo. Like, I use to recommend GFTN to everyone, then they reformulated to include a cone. And sometimes people now will mention that they use certain HE gels or GFTN, and they don't understand why their hair is so weighed down. And I think they might be trusting old threads or advice. Product reformulations can make old info useless.

I think a lot of people come over from the naturally curly site, and don't really understand too much about texture and such. Usually they get it linked to them in their thread, and the newbie section has a thread about it all. That can be really overwhelming though, and I managed to navigate my way to a hair routine through trial and error without knowing my real hair properties. There are things that different curl types have to deal with. Like, wavies battle flattop.

I don't find the search feature that bad most of the time. I usually only use it for product names, ingredient names, or looking for old threads though. I've never tried it on the phone app, but I can imagine it's pretty annoying.

I think that because we get new people all the time, it's just that they aren't caught up and don't know how to navigate to the right information. Also, I wouldn't want this place to be unwelcoming or overwhelming for a new person.
Fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity. Dyed to brown a few months ago.
Lowpoo:
Trader Joe's TTT Shampoo
Rinse Out:
Yes to Carrots, AOHR, Aubrey Organics Rosemary Peppermint
LI: Yes to Carrots
Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, LA Looks Sports, Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Whipped Mousse

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