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Old 03-25-2013, 09:44 AM   #1
 
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Unhappy Sulfates dry my hair out...but sulfate free creates buildup?

I used sulfate shampoos for the longest and they dried out my hair and made it frizzy. Now I use sulfate free shampoos like Healthy Sexy Hair/Curly Sexy Hair and I have been getting lots of buildup and my hair is weighed down. I realized the second and third ingredient are silicones which cause buildup. So it's like there's no winning...what should I use?

I do want to use shampoo btw. I know some people use the no shampoo method but I couldn't imagine doing that. My hair gets very dark and gross looking after I haven't washed in 2 days. I couldn't imagine never using shampoo.
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Try the Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus Curling Shampoo. It cleanses very well and it's cone free. If you're going to be sulfate free, most of us have to give up cones and some like me five up heavy oils as well.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:46 AM   #3
 
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You need to look for a shampoo that is both sulfate and silicone free as well as a conditioner and styler (if you use them) that are silicone free.

It will take a lot of label reading and probably trial and error to find ones that work so you don't get build up.

I personally love the Shea Moisture Coconut and Hibiscus Curl Shampoo but I only use it weekly. I mainly use the Suave Naturals Rosemary and Mint clarifying Conditioner and have yet to see build up.

We are experiencing our "second winter" in SEVA right now so I'm in fluff mode but have been able to keep it manageable fluff so it's not too bad.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:52 PM   #4
 
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PearlRose - I just noticed we are almost hair twins (except for curl pattern). I am a medium-fine texture, normal porosity and normal elasticity.

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Old 03-25-2013, 08:47 PM   #5
 
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I wash my hair every day with either Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus, or Moisture Retention, and my hair is not suffering at all from daily washing or buildup. I have other issues with my hair but not these. Cones are gone; I added some about a month ago and they frizzed my hair so it was back to no cones. Sulfates: OK for an occasional clarifying wash, IMHO. Not on a regular basis.
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:15 PM   #6
 
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I second the SheaMosture shampoos. I love them KC Come Clean. Its sulfate free and organic. When I need a deeper cleanse I use aluminum free baking soda. Ever since I switched to Low-Poo and co-washing I have noticed a difference in my hair and skin :-) I know some use sulfate shampoos only to wash out a hot oil treatment.

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Old 03-25-2013, 11:48 PM   #7
 
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i use everyday shea shampoo. its huge from whole foods. But it has no sulfate in it. I think coco ben? but either way it doesnt frizz up my hair and its very gental. no build up at all for me.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:09 AM   #8
 
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I have seen t hat shampoo and wondered about it..thinking about that next "fix"....
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:23 AM   #9
 
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You could go "modified CG" and do a low-poo every few days to get rid of those silicones, if you want.

I admit, my favorite winter styler has silicones in it, so I wash every 3 days with a low-sulfate poo mixed 50/50 with EVOO. My hair isn't dried out or frizzy.

You gotta do what works for you and your curls!!
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:00 PM   #10
 
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I used sulfate shampoos for the longest and they dried out my hair and made it frizzy. Now I use sulfate free shampoos like Healthy Sexy Hair/Curly Sexy Hair and I have been getting lots of buildup and my hair is weighed down. I realized the second and third ingredient are silicones which cause buildup. So it's like there's no winning...what should I use?

I do want to use shampoo btw. I know some people use the no shampoo method but I couldn't imagine doing that. My hair gets very dark and gross looking after I haven't washed in 2 days. I couldn't imagine never using shampoo.
I've started using Curl Care by Dr. Miracle Rehydrating Shampoo. It's sulfate free and seems to be working pretty well so far. My only thing against it is the smell, like Robitussin and a hint of mint, but luckily the smell doesn't linger on the hair. I think I got it for about nine bucks and it came with a free conditioner sample. (The condish didn't include ingredients on the back so I didn't use it, but it left my backpack stemming nice when I found out it had burst all over it! Lol)
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Old 10-26-2013, 03:19 PM   #11
 
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I have just recently started doing a rotation cleansing regimen with my hair. I cannot say for sure it will work yet or that the products I use are best...but because my non-porous hair is so so vulnerable to build up I came up with this idea and so far so good because my hair is starting to feel oily again which I really love whereas it seemed it was starting to reject everything.

So basically...first off...I do not use conditioner. Conditioner gives me build up instantly and is very very drying when left on my hair. Instead, I use oil only but my preference goes to mineral oil. On Ktani Hair Sense Blog she discusses how mineral oil is very very easy to remove (as opposed to petroleum), that even cocamidopropyl betaine can remove it. She does not say that part exactlt but she does say co-washing can remove it, and several sites including Naturally Curly confirm that cocamidopropyl betaine removes MO. Not only that Ktani states that it seals in 99% moisture where other oils and silicones are 30 and less. She states it is the best detangler.

Ok so obviously a cleansing conditioner has other ingredients thar build up. So this is why let us say if I wash my hair three times a week...the first time I wash with a diluted sulfate free shampoo, next time cleansing cream...next diluted poo...then once or twice a month...a harsh poo with no moisturizing add ins and no other fillers...just strict business. In that case even a small amount directly applied to hair to avoid build up.

So these are the cleansers I am working with:

Jason Fragrance Free
Curls Cleansing Cream
Giovanni 50:50
Neutrogena Anti-Residue

For my daughter...I use argan oil instead of mineral oil. It also has a fairly low iodine value which means it is not difficult to remove. Instead of cleansing cream (she has oily hair) I just dilute Burt's Bees sulfate free baby poo and only oil her curly ends. No reapplication for either of us until next wash.

Once every two weeks I would dilute the neutrogena and use on her hair because build up for her causes greasy hair and scalp issues. For me I get less volume and split ends.

This is my theory. Email me charlotte.quevedo@gmail.com and I can keep you updated with how it works.


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I used sulfate shampoos for the longest and they dried out my hair and made it frizzy. Now I use sulfate free shampoos like Healthy Sexy Hair/Curly Sexy Hair and I have been getting lots of buildup and my hair is weighed down. I realized the second and third ingredient are silicones which cause buildup. So it's like there's no winning...what should I use?

I do want to use shampoo btw. I know some people use the no shampoo method but I couldn't imagine doing that. My hair gets very dark and gross looking after I haven't washed in 2 days. I couldn't imagine never using shampoo.
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:13 AM   #12
 
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Coconut and Hibiscus Curl & Shine Shampoo. I use it and it's great - sulfate free, paraben free, silicone free (and free from lots of other stuff too lol). Plus it's not tested on animals, which is nice.

The ingredients are natural and it smells DIVINE. My hair always feels super soft and silky after using that shampoo, plus it feels CLEAN. I don't get any build-up or anything like that, but it also doesn't strip my hair

Like you, I'm not keen on the idea of co-washing. I like having a shampoo and the Curl & Shine one is amaze
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Old 10-28-2013, 03:18 PM   #13
 
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If your goimg to continue to use silicones, I believe the kinky curly come clean has coco.b which can remove cones. But Shea Moisture shampoo will not, unfortunately

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