Rope curls?

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I get these, only on the left side under layer. I only get them some days, and I can't exactly pinpoint what causes them some days and not others. I always thought I was the only one!

2c/3a, fine, low porosity.

Poo: Garnier Fructis Pure Clean (yes, it has A Sulfate!!, but I have Teflon hair)
Co-wash (when I feel so inclined, which isn't often!): VO5 Kiwi Lime Clarifying Conditioner
Conditioner/LI:
same for both -- whatever I have in the shower at the time (I experiment a lot)
Style: EcoStyler Olive Oil <3
Dry: Diffuse or air dry, or both...depends on my mood

I have them too. When I started to be NC I got two of them, each behind an ear. Now I get them almost allover, but concentrated round my ears and the underlayers. It seems like my hair spirals and end up in a bouncy curl and the shorter hairs curl around the longer hairs and make these "tubes".

I seem to get them more after using FSG or humectants.
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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
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Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
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Last edited by rapunzel4ever; 04-02-2013 at 01:46 AM.
WOW! I didn't think I'd get any replies, and here so many of you get these!!

Are you all in the 2c/3a/3b range??

All fine haired??

What about porosity??
Originally Posted by Jas76
2c/3a/3b range- yep

fine haired - uh huh

porosity - high porosity- if I don't have enough protein, I won't really get them much- hair is looser and frizzier but when well PT; and let my hair air dry, I get these all over my head except for a few loose strands in my canopy(which I hate!!!!). I'd like to know how to incorporate those loose strands into the ropey curls.
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I get these two. I'm a combo 2c/3a, fine hair, normal porosity. I always just assumed that this was a 2c trait - the curls form nicely, but just don't get as much shrinkage or spring as true 3a curls. Mine also seem to be tighter at the roots and looser at the ends. Maybe its a common trait to those of us who straddle the wavy/curly fence.
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2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate

My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

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I get them too (mine of course look like much thiner ropes than yours) and mine turn up all over my head in different spots. I have different properties than you as far as porosity (my hair is low to normal porosity).

I don't mind mine on first day hair but I am less of a fan of them on the second day because they usually continue to look defined and perfect while the rest of my curls become more expanded which makes them stand out more. I usually break them up on day two.

I always thought it had to do with the shape of my curls because I tend to get them in the areas where I have more spirally rather than flat S shaped curls (I have a mix of small spirals and Ss all over my head). I always thought it was the result of the spiral curls just sort of spiraling around each other. But now that I am thinking about it, maybe it is also related to density (the denser your curls the more likely you are to have these turn up).
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Type: 3c/b; Density: M; Texture: M-C; Porosity: L-N

Products
Cleanser: SM Raw Shea Moisture Retention Shampoo
Conditioner: SM Raw Shea Restorative Conditioner
DC: SM JBCO Mask
Leave-In: SM JBCO Leave-in
Styler: CRN Curl Maker
SOTC: MO
Refresher: Oyin Juices and Berries

Regimen (CG since 3/31/12 )
Condition twice a week; Cleanse once a week; DC as needed; Henna as needed (Hennahead since 7/2/13).

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I get these two. I'm a combo 2c/3a, fine hair, normal porosity. I always just assumed that this was a 2c trait - the curls form nicely, but just don't get as much shrinkage or spring as true 3a curls. Mine also seem to be tighter at the roots and looser at the ends. Maybe its a common trait to those of us who straddle the wavy/curly fence.
Originally Posted by jsuzkelley

OMG, I literally just asked about this on the 2 forum... I'm not the only one with "reverse" curl definition!
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Hair: curlybob, fine, dense, low-po, big waves/ringlets (2C/3A)
Co-Wash: Nature's Gate Herbal Conditioner
RO: YTC Carrot, Aubrey Organics GPB
LI: BS Shea Soft Styling Cream (HG)
Styling: KCCC, Garnier P&C Gel
1xWeek: low-poo, gelatin PT or Joico K-Pak
Hair Likes: aloe, coconut oil, humidity, protein, long walks on the beach
I get these two. I'm a combo 2c/3a, fine hair, normal porosity. I always just assumed that this was a 2c trait - the curls form nicely, but just don't get as much shrinkage or spring as true 3a curls. Mine also seem to be tighter at the roots and looser at the ends. Maybe its a common trait to those of us who straddle the wavy/curly fence.
Originally Posted by jsuzkelley

OMG, I literally just asked about this on the 2 forum... I'm not the only one with "reverse" curl definition!
Originally Posted by bosanbo
I only get this "reverse" curl thing on these rope curls. Otherwise, my hair is normally less curly at the roots. I usually get these rope curls happening in the sections behind my ears - ironically, these are the sections I will absentmindedly twirl throughout the day - so, does my twirling cause the ropes, or does my hand naturally gravitate to the ropes for twirling? Lol! I love the crazy unpredictablility of my hair

I agree that density may play a factor - and these "ropes" seem to show up where my hair naturally clumps together better on its own (vs. my canopy, where the curls seem to naturally break apart more).
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2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate

My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

CG since 12/29/2011
Also in the 2C-3B range. I get them too usually 1 or 2 once in a while (maybe a biweekly appearance) and didn't know what was causing them. Could it be a need to clarify? I figured it was too much product weighing down a curl and my hair forming a snake. . . I usually fix them by breaking the clump rewetting and a quick scrunch.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

This happens to my hair quite a lot & doesn't seem to be buildup related.

I always figured it was a natural part of straddling the wavy/curly divide, independent of other hair properties. I am 2C/3A, mostly coarse & porous.

I hated them at first, since they looked like deflated ringlets, but I have come to accept rope curls as part of the wild mix that is my hair.


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2C/3A--med-coarse, slightly porous (highlighted), very dry & protein sensitive

No-Poo: Naturally Amari Berry No-Poo (w/o Aloe & Horsetail)

Condition: Suave Daily Clarifying & Sun-Ripened Strawberry

Stylers: 4Naturals Spring Back, L'oreal Everstyle Curl Defining Gel

Avoiding: sulfates, ‘cones, parabens, polyquats/cationics (except stearamidopropyl dimethylamine), most proteins/extracts.
I think (but not sure) I also have some of them...
I'm 2b-2c (getting more and more 2c but I'm still new to the whole curlything).
I'm not really sure I have them though... since the picture was a bit unclear for my bad eyesight. I do have something I could call ropes as well.

Can someone make other pictures of the "rope curls" so I can compare to mine?

I also have what I call "supercurls" which sometimes can be really really strange...
"Supercurls" = like 20 different curls that turn around each other if you now what I mean... that gives me like a HUUUUUGE curl composed of 20 or so different curls (imagine: my whole right side looks like one giant curl composed of 20 different curls..)
Anyone has these?
(and my left side and right side are still quite uneven... hope to solve that next)
Neleke, by third day hair I can get supercurls. Only on the right side though. They are monsters to pick apart.

I wanted to add I don't find the rope curls ugly at all. They're pretty. I only fix them to make the consistency/texture of my hair more even since they literally will hang down beneath my springier ringlets, as if my hair was sticking its lazy tongue out.
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3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

I get these underneath too, but it's tighter near my scalp and looser near my ends sometimes I break them up with my fingers, but usually I leave them.

I'm 3b/3c, high porosity.

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Originally Posted by LoveInBetween
THIS!! Yes, mine are tighter at the top and looser at the ends, too! I assume that's just a damage/older hair issue or something.
Originally Posted by Jas76
AGEED! Because I'm still growing of heat damage. The 8 inches of untouched virgin hair is a nice 3b/3c elongated spiral and the damaged part is 2c. I get these rope curls when I finger detangle before I low poo and not during my RO. Then I get these chunky elongated pieces underneath.

My daughter has these all over her head and she's 3c. I'll take a picture tonight.

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Co: As I am Coconut CoWash,VO5 Claifying Conditioner
DC: Macadamia Repair Masque
LI: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut
Style Creme: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie
Gel: KCCC, Eco Styler Argan Oil
Sealer: EVCO, EVOO


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I get them on the underlayer quite frequently. Occasionally I get them in random places on top on days that I just dry without any styler.
3B - Fine/Norm - Norm Elas/Por - Protein friendly?

For Me:
Weekly Low-Poo: SM Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Shine Shampoo
CoWash:
Rinse-Out: Suave Naturals Rosemary Mint
Leave-In: SM Coconut & Hibiscus Curl and Style Milk - Giovanni Light Leave In*
Style: Curls Goddess Curl Gel* SM Coconut & Hibiscus Souffle*

For my Curly Babies:
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The dews were finally up in a good range today so I tried out the curl keeper I bought a while ago. I had LOTS of rope curls, mostly underneath. It looked like a few more were trying to form in my canopy too. Has anyone else noticed this when they use curl keeper? I have a pretty strong S wave normally, but these long curls are a total surprise. Or could it be the higher dew point? I started CG this winter when ithe dew points were low. Hmmm, a mystery......
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Experimenting w CG since Oct 2012

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cowash= TN
AG Gel Mousse, LA Gel,
DT = Coconut oil (love)
was just searching to see if anyone else got these and low and behold, there are a bunch of you! I noticed them lately on the underside and back. I do think they look neat, but wasn't sure if it was just something I did or what. I have fine hair, I have figured it to be medium/low porosity, dense and lower elasticity. 2c/b pattern.
I have a theory about S curls - I think half the time they aren't really S's, but unspiraled spirals! That's what mine seem to be a lot, and I've heard several others have the same experience.

If I take each clump in the shower and twirl it around my finger (in the direction of the curl) and then scrunch, I have ringlets all over. Ringlets and ropes, I guess.

I don't do that very often - too time consuming! So then the results are hit or miss. :/
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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
i get these when my hair is side parted my hair gets a huge rope curl and i hate it cos my hair is so flat when i get them. I usually finger comb them out when my hair is dry for more volume
I have a theory about S curls - I think half the time they aren't really S's, but unspiraled spirals! That's what mine seem to be a lot, and I've heard several others have the same experience.

If I take each clump in the shower and twirl it around my finger (in the direction of the curl) and then scrunch, I have ringlets all over. Ringlets and ropes, I guess.

I don't do that very often - too time consuming! So then the results are hit or miss. :/
Originally Posted by Jas76
How do you decide which direction os the right direction? I wonder if doing this often would help to 'train' the hair to spiral better?

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Recovering from a year of keratin and bleach with CG

Routine

Low Poo, Condition, Leave in, Curl cream, Supersoak, Gel, Diffuse on high heat, with minimal lift to encourage waves and reduce frizz, Dry on cool with nozzle down to smooth hair and finish drying,Shine Serum

Weekly gelatin protien treatments.
I have a theory about S curls - I think half the time they aren't really S's, but unspiraled spirals! That's what mine seem to be a lot, and I've heard several others have the same experience.

If I take each clump in the shower and twirl it around my finger (in the direction of the curl) and then scrunch, I have ringlets all over. Ringlets and ropes, I guess.

I don't do that very often - too time consuming! So then the results are hit or miss. :/
Originally Posted by Jas76
How do you decide which direction os the right direction? I wonder if doing this often would help to 'train' the hair to spiral better?

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Originally Posted by Yoshimi
Well, mine have a downward diagonal, so I twirl towards that. Sometimes it's trial and error - if you go the wrong way it just hangs there long and fairly straight. Lol
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing

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