I am so confused about everything

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Ok, hi. I am really new to this site and also to CG and I thought I was getting the hang of caring for my hair and then I realized I actually am not.
I'm really confused about conditioning and sealing and styling
So, am I supposed to use one conditioner for co-washing, and then one for rinsing out and then one for leaving in??
How am I supposed to know which are better for which, just trial and error??
Can sealing products be bought in a store or are they homemade things?
Idk I'm just so overwhelmed with all of this lol
Really I just need someone to point me in the right direction of where to begin with CG. I clarified my hair today, and then I just left my conditioner in (I used it for co washing, RO and LI) but my hair got really dry and frizzy as the day went on. I did not apply gel because the one I have doesnt appear to be CG.
I'm not expecting dramatic results so soon, but I just want to make sure that what I'm doing is making a difference....
My hair properties are (I'm assessing to the best of my abilities)
Medium texture
High density
High porosity
High elasticity

Thanks!!
You probably know more than you think it's just this site is such a flood of information it's overwhelming.

If your scalp isn't sensitive or picky you can use the same conditioner for co-washing the scalp, rinsing out the hair AND as a leave in. I use a particular co-wash, Trader Joes Tea Tree Tingle for cleansing the scalp because my scalp is sensitive to preservatives. I use a more moisturizng rinseout (Tresemme Naturals Moisture and any of Shea Moisture's conditioners) because I live in Southern California and while the Tea Tree Tingle has fantastic slip, my hair is naturally dry and it's a super dry climate to boot. I use different products for leave ins because I like using a lighter conditioner as my leave in--mainly Kinky Curly Knot Today. Also while Shea Moisture's curl enhancing smoothie is a heavier product it is still a fantastic leave in because it promotes your curl pattern and adds extra hold. I use either interchangeably.

But basically, yeah, ya only need one conditioner. You will learn through trial and error, as I did, if separate products suit you better. Just experiment.

So long as you clarified and conditioned with silicone free products you're off to a good start. I clarified with a sulfate one, Suave Naturals shampoo, when I first started out though just to make sure I got the silicones out. But now I'm sulfate free.

Drugstore Gels that are CG: Biosilk rock hard gelee, Aussie Instant Freeze, La Looks Sports Gel, Biotera, etc.

Sealing is as simple as putting some oil through the body of your hair to lock moisture in. Lots of people, including myself, do this after applying leave in conditioner and before gel/finishing product but some do it after gel. I've heard it is best to use a non-penetrating, lighter oil for sealing. I use either jojoba or grapeseed oil. I take maybe five-seven drops of whichever I'm using, mix it with my leave in conditioner in my palm, then smooth the mixture over the body of my wet hair.

The best way to choose products is to learn more about your properties and ingredients it might like. The best place for that is this site:

Live Curly Live Free - Home

If you're unsure about your hair properties there's a hair analysis service. I did it and I'm glad I did. I thought I was medium texture and porosity and I turned out to be coarse and high porosity. Explained a lot.

Also youtube videos by this girl might be helpful. Check out the curly hair basics playlist:

waterlily716 - curly hair & beauty @:-) - YouTube

Also never hesitate to ask questions! This site is super helpful even though it can seem overwhelming at first.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

Thanks for the reply.
waterlily/sarah's videos are what brought me to this site in the first place.
I went out today and bought some stuff that I believe to be CG. The only thing I had trouble finding was a protein treatment. Are there in CG protein treatments that I can buy in a store or will I only get a CG one if I make it myself? I went to Sally's Beauty Supply today but I was really unsure of the treatments there so I decided not to buy one.

Last edited by marie.blue.7; 04-09-2013 at 03:48 PM.
I can relate to your frustration. I too co washed today and came out with TONS of frizz. My hair is horrible (worse than yesterday). Im brand new to CG and am wondering how long until I'm not embrassed to go out in public with my flat frizz head.

I've been watching waterlily's videos too, they're really helpful of course her hair is totally different than mine.

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2b newbie as of 4/8/13
Fine hair, normal porosity. Still experimenting to determine moisture and protein preferences.

So far.....
Occasional Wash: SM Shea Butter Curl & Shine
Co-wash:Suave Naturals Coconut, VO5 Kiwi Lime

Plopping and diffusing
Thanks for the reply.
waterlily/sarah's videos are what brought me to this site in the first place.
I went out today and bought some stuff that I believe to be CG. The only thing I had trouble finding was a protein treatment. Are there in CG protein treatments that I can buy in a store or will I only get a CG one if I make it myself? I went to Sally's Beauty Supply today but I was really unsure of the treatments there so I decided not to buy one.
Originally Posted by marie.blue.7
Aphogee 2 Step, Colorful Neutral Protein Filler, Ion Reconstructor, Joico K-pak are all CG friendly pt options you should be able to find at Sally's. If your hair really likes protein, some use the Ion Reconstructor as a rinse out, and CNPF is a liquid which can be added to any conditioner, gel, or dt for an additional boost of protein. If you're ok with making your own, I highly recommend IAGIrl's gelatin pt. Easy and cheap, and customizable too.
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CG since 11/2011
2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
I second the gelatin PT. You can also PT with a mixture of egg, mayonnaise and coconut oil.

Also, if you hair is very frizzy right now that might be because it is adjusting. Maybe once you took away the the chemicals, silicones, or whatever there was before making your hair lie flat it is now as if your hair is exposed to the elements and it is freaking out a little. I recommend deep treating and sealing for starters. Just make sure that hair of yours is getting enough moisture. (Protein too of course as a lack of protein if you're fine haired or extremely porous due to damage can cause frizz.) It might be your hair is just adapting to the CG method and you need to give it some time. Don't throw in the towel just yet.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

Thanks for the replies!!
I saw these treatments in the store but I was very unsure about them, so thank you for clarifying that they are CG.
I will have to try IAGirl's recipe because I have seen many people praise it. I'm just worried I will make it wrong lol.
Also, I am not close to throwing in the towel because despite being incredibly confused about what I'm doing right now, I can see a change in my hair's health and I know if I keep it up, it will get better.

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