Long plop

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So I know most people can't plop for long. That has never been much of an issue for me. I have had problems before, of course, but in general I have trouble with too SHORT of a plop!

Anyone else like this?

Today I unexpectedly had to plop for 3.5 hours (kid spiked a fever), and my hair did GREAT! I think it's removing the excess moisture while held in the plopped position? Removing excess moisture (and therefore weight!) seems to be key with my curls. They'll look totally weighed down if I don't.

I can even do overnight plops, though they don't go well 100% of the time, and I do have to spritz and gently re-towel-scrunch them in the morning.

Am I just a freak?? I seem to hear virtually everyone else say the opposite is true!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I used to plop a lot but then I got too impatient. Like you said, the longer the plop, I felt the better the curls. I always found plopping before bed brought better results since I wouldn't be thinking about it and it would be in my hair for about 6-8 hours. I also, during plopping, would take my blow-dryer and set it on low heat and move it around to sort of "heat my curls." I have low-porosity hair so that might have been why my curls loved it.

Now, I get so impatient and can only plop for a max of 20 minutes because I want results so fast and my hair takes FOREVER to dry!
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High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
I agree. my hair also seems to look better the longer I plop. I usually can’t make it past an hour, too impatient as well. But I must plop at least for 20 mins. I think my hair needs the water initially when I apply my stylers.. to help absorb the product and provide clumps. But the extra water seems to weigh my curls down. So the longer plop times… gives the hair time to absorb the product?. It that your theory as well?. I have not tried plopping over night, but may give this a try. When you do plop for longer times (3 hours to overnight), do you still need to diffuse in the after?.
2b/c CG since 8/12
I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

Hair loves moisture protein.
MUST Pixie diffuse.

My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats Or glycerin in high dews
I agree. my hair also seems to look better the longer I plop. I usually can’t make it past an hour, too impatient as well. But I must plop at least for 20 mins. I think my hair needs the water initially when I apply my stylers.. to help absorb the product and provide clumps. But the extra water seems to weigh my curls down. So the longer plop times… gives the hair time to absorb the product?. It that your theory as well?. I have not tried plopping over night, but may give this a try. When you do plop for longer times (3 hours to overnight), do you still need to diffuse in the after?.
Originally Posted by shellyRN07swavy
For myself, when I plop overnight, in the morning my hair can still be a little damp. Because of that I might diffuse for literally 5 minutes and usually it will be fine that way. I agree with you, my hair definitely needs the water for the products to absorb! You say that extra water weigh your curls down, have you considered, after all your products are in place, using a regular cotton shirt or anything to that effect and scrunch out the excess water/product? That might help with excess water. Hope this helps
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls

Today I unexpectedly had to plop for 3.5 hours (kid spiked a fever), and my hair did GREAT! I think it's removing the excess moisture while held in the plopped position? Removing excess moisture (and therefore weight!) seems to be key with my curls. They'll look totally weighed down if I don't.
Originally Posted by Jas76
Do you remove much moisture before plopping? Today I tried scrunching out a fair bit with a microfibre towel before plopping and I can't decide if it helped or not. Also I'm wondering if diffusing to 80% dry, then plopping rather than air drying some of the rest of the way would be helpful.

I am going to have to try doing this for longer - I made about 1 and a half hours tonight but then the whole thing started falling off, I found that time better than 10 mins though I think.
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UK based wavy

Mostly waves, but curls and straight bits too!
Fine to medium, high porosity, medium density, very low elasticity
Highlights damage (growing it out), seems to like protein and need lots of moisture.

Cleanse - CJDF, trying out low poos ; Co wash- Uk chemist brands, Urtekram Rose or Aloe, Hairveda Amala Cream Rinse; RO - varies, Tigi Moisture Maniac, Desert Essence Coconut ; Leave in - Keracare natural textures; Sealant - argan oil
Trying out new things, still looking.
I do longer plops. I gave up on overnight plops because I didn't like the unpredictability of how it would turn out, so now I just do 2ish hour plops. Then a quick couple minutes with the diffuser. But this has been working great.

I've done a shorter one when I didn't have much time, and my hair looked the same as it does when I don't plop. So kind of worthless. I'm kind of learning that I have to plop for at least an hour in order to feel like I see a result.
OMG. The app has been awful today!!

Ok. So yes, I do use a MF towel or cotton T to scrunch the excess moisture out before plopping. Then I plop plop for as long as I can/need to/have to bc of my kids/etc.

When I take it down even after a long plop, I still need to diffuse. After an overnight plop, I usually have to most with a little water, gently towel scrunch, then diffuse for a few minutes.

My hair is alway damp (actually still WET) after a plop. As porous as my hair is, you'd think it would dry faster than it does. Silly hair. I guess it's the density, length, and clumps that contribute to that.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Just to add, recently when I plop I notice curls that literally bend. Sometimes I feel that plopping will mess up my natural form of a curl.

I also agree that doing overnight plopping can be "risky." You don't really know how it will turn out. I've had overnight plops that were a disaster in the morning and I was on a tight schedule.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
Lately I've been doing the same routine and it has been working for me. Once I have added all my styling products I scrunch out most of the excess water with my hands. Then I scrunch some more with my MF towel before plopping. I usually plop for 30-40 mins I think. After I'm done plopping I diffuse for 15 mins or so. I usually just eyeball everything and never look at the time lol. Finally, I air dry my hair till its completely dry which takes hrs even after diffusing and SOTC when it's completely dry. So far I'm loving the results. I tried plopping before and it wasn't working for me no matter how long I had it for but now about 40 mins does the trick
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OMG. The app has been awful today!!

Ok. So yes, I do use a MF towel or cotton T to scrunch the excess moisture out before plopping. Then I plop plop for as long as I can/need to/have to bc of my kids/etc.

When I take it down even after a long plop, I still need to diffuse. After an overnight plop, I usually have to most with a little water, gently towel scrunch, then diffuse for a few minutes.

My hair is alway damp (actually still WET) after a plop. As porous as my hair is, you'd think it would dry faster than it does. Silly hair. I guess it's the density, length, and clumps that contribute to that.
Originally Posted by Jas76
Thanks Jas! Hope your little one is feeling better now.

Long live curls, that sounds like a good routine, I'm going to try diffusing after plopping.
UK based wavy

Mostly waves, but curls and straight bits too!
Fine to medium, high porosity, medium density, very low elasticity
Highlights damage (growing it out), seems to like protein and need lots of moisture.

Cleanse - CJDF, trying out low poos ; Co wash- Uk chemist brands, Urtekram Rose or Aloe, Hairveda Amala Cream Rinse; RO - varies, Tigi Moisture Maniac, Desert Essence Coconut ; Leave in - Keracare natural textures; Sealant - argan oil
Trying out new things, still looking.
I should add when I do an overnight plop, I often don't use as much product before the plop. Usually just LI, sealer, and a light application of gel. Towel scrunch, plop, go to bed.

Then like I said I mist, sometimes I'll then apply a little more gel (spray gel is helpful here), then gently towel scrunch and I can air dry or diffuse a little, depending on what is ahead of me that day.

Really, after ANY plop, I have to diffuse at least a little. At the very least my root area. I have to remove the excess weight and get the gel cast to set up a bit before I can say I'm done.
lucyprimrose likes this.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Just to add, recently when I plop I notice curls that literally bend. Sometimes I feel that plopping will mess up my natural form of a curl.
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
Also I'm wondering if diffusing to 80% dry, then plopping rather than air drying some of the rest of the way would be helpful.
Originally Posted by lucyprimrose
Okay, you ladies are making the lightbulb go off over my head! I've tried the long plop and gotten the weird bends that Samanthascurlz is talking about, so I gave up on that. But I've never thought to try lucyprimrose's idea of diffusing, THEN plopping to finish it off. That could, just maybe, eliminate two problems. The diffusing would get it mostly dry with the curls formed properly, no weird bends, then maybe the plopping would finish off the drying without my hair weighing itself down. I see more experimentation in my future this weekend!!
shellyRN07swavy likes this.
Sulfate/non-water-soluble silicone free since 8/16/10
Northern VA
Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
Dye-free since 11/2010

You know, I've thought about that a few times in the past but never tried it. Now I'm curious and may have to! Lol!

Though I might be more successful diffusing then plopping then maybe diffusing for a couple minutes again.
shellyRN07swavy likes this.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I do pretty much exactly what you described Jas - with the exception that I don't usually diffuse after I plop, although sometimes I do. I started scrunching with a microfiber towel before plopping a couple months ago, and that has really helped my results too. I used to think plopping too long didn't work, but that was way back when I wasn't leaving as much water in my hair. Now that I'm putting product on very wet hair, the longer plop is great. If a few ends are sticking out a little wonky, I just rewet those and scrunch - problem solved. I agree 100% that getting the extra moisture out while keeping the curls scrunched up helps with my curl retention, since my fine hair is easily weighed down. I haven't been as happy with the overnight plop, but that's mostly because I find it uncomfortable to sleep in. The results are decent, but not as good as when I wash in the morning.
2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate

My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

CG since 12/29/2011
Wow this thread I think might be better than the diffusing hair thread. I have only tired 2x to scrunch my hair with flour sack towel after all my product applied and then plop. But I noticed couple things from reading all your posts. I might not have left my hair plopped long enough after; last few times only did 20-30 mins long. I like the idea of diffusing then re-plopping til dry. I also read from someone on another thread.. that they start to diffuse their hair while their hair is plopped. This might be promising also.
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2b/c CG since 8/12
I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

Hair loves moisture protein.
MUST Pixie diffuse.

My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats Or glycerin in high dews
jas, thanks for this thread! i usually don't plop as when i do my hair frizzes later on. but, i only would plop for 10 minutes. i chalked it up to having short hair, that only long hair plops well. then when i read this thread i realized there are days when for whatever reason, come home from a haircut, home from a trip.... that i wash my hair in the evening. on those times i'll plop for a long time while i'm doing whatever, my hair always comes out great, never associated it with a long plop.
tomorrow morning i'll put this to the test. got my fingers crossed as it is a much easier way to dry hair.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
I agree. my hair also seems to look better the longer I plop. I usually can’t make it past an hour, too impatient as well. But I must plop at least for 20 mins. I think my hair needs the water initially when I apply my stylers.. to help absorb the product and provide clumps. But the extra water seems to weigh my curls down. So the longer plop times… gives the hair time to absorb the product?. It that your theory as well?. I have not tried plopping over night, but may give this a try. When you do plop for longer times (3 hours to overnight), do you still need to diffuse in the after?.
Originally Posted by shellyRN07swavy
For myself, when I plop overnight, in the morning my hair can still be a little damp. Because of that I might diffuse for literally 5 minutes and usually it will be fine that way. I agree with you, my hair definitely needs the water for the products to absorb! You say that extra water weigh your curls down, have you considered, after all your products are in place, using a regular cotton shirt or anything to that effect and scrunch out the excess water/product? That might help with excess water. Hope this helps
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz

I have tried scrunching out extra water before plopping. But I'm thinking that this might not work for me, b/c my hair wouldn't have any time to absorb the product I just used. It's like wasting product. But I wonder....if I apply my styler via SS and then plop with my hair soaking for an 1hour. Then scrunched with my flour sack and then diffused?? That this would allow my hair to absorb the product and get rid of the extra water after plopping.... hmm will try this next time.
2b/c CG since 8/12
I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

Hair loves moisture protein.
MUST Pixie diffuse.

My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats Or glycerin in high dews
Eeek my hair always looks best on day 1 but I don't have 2-3 hours to plop if I wash in the morning. It takes like 7 hours to dry my hair which means it looks bad (flat, frizzy) the entire time I'm at school and starts looking better by the time I come home. It also means I'm handling it too much while it's drying which causes frizz, right? Part of that is my fault... I love playing w/ my hair... the other part is necessary like making sure it's not trapped under my purse/backpack, getting it out of my face etc. I also like flipping the top part near my face, I find it gives me volume and helps to "teach" that part to stay away from my face. My hair falls forward. I could learn to do those clips but I can't show up w/ clips in my hair and leave them there for 7 hours while the princess that is my hair finally dries.

Then there's plopping in the evening but then I sleep on it and some of the curls uncurl and some of it gets wonky. I suppose I could try plopping overnight but I doubt it won't unfurl.

This has been a point of frustration. Does anyone else have these problems? I'm tempted to buy a diffuser, but heat has been used on my hair like 5 times in the last 2 years (all at salons) and if I start diffusing daily, won't I be regressing? Like what's the point of going CG then.
I have to diffuse, and I only use the warm and cool settings - never hot - and I go between high and low speed on the dryer, too.

You could maybe try an overnight plop on a Friday where Saturday morning it won't be a tragedy if it doesn't go well.

I do the "head scarf" wrap, where you make a triangle out of what you are plopping with, fold the point over the back of your head, and then tie the two ends around behind your head. I find that stays on a lot better, and does t cause my curls to "shift" as I wrap and tie the plop.

When you get up in the morning, take down the plop, and you may need to diffuse a little still - read back through this thread for more tips and ideas.

I do an overnight plop if I know I'll have to get up really early the next day.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Hmmm.. I'll try. And may have to buy a diffuser. ::grumbles::

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