Advice on overcoming dryness.

Sorry that this is the same post in the low-po section, but no one has replied so I figured I would post here too.

I am trying to understand having low porosity hair. I have been trying to really focus on my properties. I only wash my hair 2x a week. One of those 2 days I low-poo (in my signature). I am curious; however, after about 2-3 days, my hair becomes extremely dry and the crown frizz becomes out of control. Even if my hair gets out of control before my wash days, I just stick it out, because I don't want to condition too much.

My question is, what techniques do low-po curlies use in order to sustain the utter dryness? Basically, this is like a 'second-day' hair question, but more specific to low-po curlies.


Thank you for any advice in advance!
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
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My theory is because it takes so long for our hair to dry, your hair might not being very well moisturized on day one, but it's not really showing that until day 2.

If you have low porosity hair and you're having issues with dryness you really need to careful about conditioners...especially heavy conditioners and I know that seems counter intuitive.

Low porosity hair has a tight cuticle, which means it's great at keeping in moisture, but it's also fantastic at keeping it out. You want to make sure you aren't sealing your hair on top of that. For me I had to cut out silicones, waxes, butters, and many oils, especially castor, argan, and mineral oil. You want to be cautious about excessive protein use and even ACV rinses (I just made my hair look like the first day after a clarifying wash ).

It's pretty useless trying to refresh/moisturize low porosity hair once it's dry. I would really work on just upping the condition of your hair overall.
I don't think this is a "problem". I'm low porosity and three days is my max without drenching my hair because it gets dry. Not everyone has hair that can be happy with a once a week washing. Actually in the summer I tend to cowash more than that. Everyone has their own normal.
I don't think this is a "problem". I'm low porosity and three days is my max without drenching my hair because it gets dry. Not everyone has hair that can be happy with a once a week washing. Actually in the summer I tend to cowash more than that. Everyone has their own normal.
Originally Posted by adthomas
I wouldn't call it a problem either. I just wanted to figure out maybe another way to keep my hair from looking so horribly dry by the 3rd day. I don't mind washing 2x a week. I mind that by the third day the frizz is extremely bad and no products help decrease the frizz. All the products simply coat it. Thanks for your input
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
I don't think this is a "problem". I'm low porosity and three days is my max without drenching my hair because it gets dry. Not everyone has hair that can be happy with a once a week washing. Actually in the summer I tend to cowash more than that. Everyone has their own normal.
Originally Posted by adthomas
I wouldn't call it a problem either. I just wanted to figure out maybe another way to keep my hair from looking so horribly dry by the 3rd day. I don't mind washing 2x a week. I mind that by the third day the frizz is extremely bad and no products help decrease the frizz. All the products simply coat it. Thanks for your input
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
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My theory is because it takes so long for our hair to dry, your hair might not being very well moisturized on day one, but it's not really showing that until day 2.

If you have low porosity hair and you're having issues with dryness you really need to careful about conditioners...especially heavy conditioners and I know that seems counter intuitive.

Low porosity hair has a tight cuticle, which means it's great at keeping in moisture, but it's also fantastic at keeping it out. You want to make sure you aren't sealing your hair on top of that. For me I had to cut out silicones, waxes, butters, and many oils, especially castor, argan, and mineral oil. You want to be cautious about excessive protein use and even ACV rinses (I just made my hair look like the first day after a clarifying wash ).

It's pretty useless trying to refresh/moisturize low porosity hair once it's dry. I would really work on just upping the condition of your hair overall.
Originally Posted by Jessiebanana
I definitely have to agree with your last statement. It is useless trying to put products in after it's dry. That is why it's troublesome bc by the 3rd day I can't even wear my hair down and no products work. I do use SM smoothie which is very thick and only works when my hair is wet. I agree that I will simply start focusing on when I am conditioning my hair since my hair is more willing to take in product when wet. Thanks a lot!
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
I'm high porous, but I have this issue. I used to feel dry by the end of the day, even! Then I got it to where it felt dry on day 2. Now I am at the point where it gets feeling dry by the end of day 2. I'll take that, with my highly porous hair! Lol!

But what made the difference for me was DT's, GVPCB, using LI, and sealing. I HAVE to seal. (Specifically with mineral oil.)

I'm not sure if sealing would help you, however, but I've heard several Lo-po's that do!

I have also had a lot of luck in the winter with using a humidifier at night.

Does misting you hair work for you at all? That might be something to try to help keep the moisture in your hair.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I'm high porous, but I have this issue. I used to feel dry by the end of the day, even! Then I got it to where it felt dry on day 2. Now I am at the point where it gets feeling dry by the end of day 2. I'll take that, with my highly porous hair! Lol!

But what made the difference for me was DT's, GVPCB, using LI, and sealing. I HAVE to seal. (Specifically with mineral oil.)

I'm not sure if sealing would help you, however, but I've heard several Lo-po's that do!

I have also had a lot of luck in the winter with using a humidifier at night.

Does misting you hair work for you at all? That might be something to try to help keep the moisture in your hair.
Originally Posted by Jas76
Because of you I am going to try MO soon! Lol misting on second day hair is OK, but by the third it takes so much water to penetrate and then my hair gets frizzy. Thank you for your tips!
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
I'm glad Jas recommended misting. I'm pretty sure I'm low-po too. I have been using the Vanilla leave-in spray from SheScentIt. It's liquid so it works similar to water but since it has emollients, etc it also moisturizes. I can deffinitely tell a difference after i use it. There are other brands that have spray/liquid leave-in conditioners too. I've found that leaving something light on is more effective then loading up on rinse-outs. You might try stepping up your deep treatments too.
2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
glycerin, honey, oils & butters Protein!
Forgot to mention: I don't actually spray it in my hair. I spray several squirts on my palm and then work it through, that way all my hair gets some. This method works better for me with plain water too. Probably because my hair almost repels liquids once dry so actually smoothing it along the shafts helps it coat them???
2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
glycerin, honey, oils & butters Protein!
Forgot to mention: I don't actually spray it in my hair. I spray several squirts on my palm and then work it through, that way all my hair gets some. This method works better for me with plain water too. Probably because my hair almost repels liquids once dry so actually smoothing it along the shafts helps it coat them???
Originally Posted by Lynaea
That's a good idea to use your palm. I combined a small amount of SM smoothie and mixed it with water so it was a lot lighter. I am going to try spraying it on my palm and then distributing it like u suggested. Also, I don't do DT's so I am going to step up and try that! Thanks for all your help!
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
This is just a thought but your dryness could be a partially buildup problem. My hair is fine and 9 times out of 10 when it's not accepting moisture it's because it's too coated. I mean it doesn't matter what I put in it when I've got buildup it does nothing. That is why I had to give up silicones. Athough cone free, SMCES is way too heavy for my hair. Products with a lot of oils speed up my buildup so I tend to avoid using a lot of hair milks too. I do better with lots of creamy li, one oil and then "if" I use I use a styler then one that isn't very heavy and washes out clean. Actually, I've never met a pudding consistancy styler that didn't make my hair become dryer faster. Without that stuff I can get three full days usually. I have used the Deva low poo small sample a long time ago so I don't remember how well it worked at cleaning.But what I do know is I have the kind of hair that needs all product out once a week with a clean slate. I have to spritz my hair with a conditioner spray every day in between wasing using water on my hand the way the other poster does. Oh, and I never make my spritzes with oil because that too will speed up my buildup. Recently, I've been using some products that don't rinse out clean and coated my hair. I ended up having to shampoo twice in one week just to be able to go back after and moisturze my hair.

HTH
I don't know your climate but do you find humectants help? I find that glycerin often helps my hair become softer on day 2 and 3, I'm guessing because it draws moisture in over time. I live in a tropical climate though and I try to stay away from it because it also gives me frizz. I'm also high-po (I think) but maybe it would help you, depending on where you live. I know I've seen glycerin sprays around here, but the brand I saw is Australian (Renew) so you may have to look online for something similar.
This is just a thought but your dryness could be a partially buildup problem. My hair is fine and 9 times out of 10 when it's not accepting moisture it's because it's too coated. I mean it doesn't matter what I put in it when I've got buildup it does nothing. That is why I had to give up silicones. Athough cone free, SMCES is way too heavy for my hair. Products with a lot of oils speed up my buildup so I tend to avoid using a lot of hair milks too. I do better with lots of creamy li, one oil and then "if" I use I use a styler then one that isn't very heavy and washes out clean. Actually, I've never met a pudding consistancy styler that didn't make my hair become dryer faster. Without that stuff I can get three full days usually. I have used the Deva low poo small sample a long time ago so I don't remember how well it worked at cleaning.But what I do know is I have the kind of hair that needs all product out once a week with a clean slate. I have to spritz my hair with a conditioner spray every day in between wasing using water on my hand the way the other poster does. Oh, and I never make my spritzes with oil because that too will speed up my buildup. Recently, I've been using some products that don't rinse out clean and coated my hair. I ended up having to shampoo twice in one week just to be able to go back after and moisturze my hair.

HTH
Originally Posted by adthomas
Well I don't use silicones so do you think I should wash my hair with a clarifying shampoo? I don't use oils either unless its an ingredient in a product. I have considered it though so I probably won't bother either.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
I don't know your climate but do you find humectants help? I find that glycerin often helps my hair become softer on day 2 and 3, I'm guessing because it draws moisture in over time. I live in a tropical climate though and I try to stay away from it because it also gives me frizz. I'm also high-po (I think) but maybe it would help you, depending on where you live. I know I've seen glycerin sprays around here, but the brand I saw is Australian (Renew) so you may have to look online for something similar.
Originally Posted by PomegranateCurl
I live in New England: CT. So spring weather hasn't really come yet, it's still somewhat cold. I am still learning how to understand dews and the connection with low po hair. & some of the deva products I use have glycerin- especially the ultra defining gel. And my hair always looks great after using it so I don't think my hair minds glycerin- I think it likes it. It seems that a spritzer spray is what is predominately the issue. So I think I am going to find one or maybe see how to make my own. Thanks a lot!
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
To everyone, I attached a photo of what my hair looks like: 2nd and 3rd day. I have great volume but a lot of frizz which I know is give or take since usually you must sacrifice one for the other. I just need to know how to maybe calm it down. If I can't, it's fine. I also wanted to provide a visual for everyone!
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High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
Just because you don't use silicones doesn't necessarily mean the hair never needs clarifying. Conditioners, gels, oils, stylers ect can also build up. And like I said I'm not familiar with how well Deva Low Poo cleans. Do you DC? I find my dc's do better after I clarify because the moisture has nothing to get in its way as it penetrates my strands.. I don't recall if you said you wet your hair in between washes. This is an absolute must for me. My experience is I have to spritz every day that I don't wash which is one of the million reason I don't straigthen my hair. Very few of the products I use have glycerin but I do add it to my spritzes during certain times of year.

Looking at your hair I think a good spritz and a light oil to seal would do it some good. I'm sure you've read that sealing helps keep the moisture from leaving our hair as quickly.
Thanks a lot! I clarify every so often. Someone actually told me that once in a while, using a sulfate to clean your hair isn't bad so I do do that every few months. And I use the deva low poo once a week (Sundays usually). I never really DC. I am going to look up good products for that. Unfortunately I do not have straight oil, but after I took that pic, I did spray some water on my palm and sort of spread it throughout my hair. I then used a little mousse. Afterwards, on the medium settings, I diffused a little. There was still frizz but I felt that it helped regain some curl better.

It's just nice to begin to take everyone's advice and start ring active during my 2nd and 3rd day hair.
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Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
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