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Old 04-23-2013, 05:49 AM   #1
 
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Hello ladies and gents!

I hope some of you can help me with my hair problems.
A few months ago I visited this website and decided to try out the curly girl method.
So far I've not been doing too great, and it's time to ask for advice

I've got high porosity, thanks to chemical dye and rough handling with a brush.
I believe I have medium density.
I have lots of hair, but it is very fine and snaps easily.
This winter, I have, as always shed a lot of hair.
I live in Denmark which has low dew points.

This is what my hair looked like before cg. This is second day hair brushed out. (the half-up)

I bought Kinky Curly Knot Today and SheaMoisture Organic Coconut and Hibiscus Curl Enhancing Smoothie.

The KCKT was very satisfying the first two weeks and I rinsed most of it out of my hair. Curls began to form on top of my head and the hair had a lift to it. After two weeks the 80oz bottle was empty.

I found the smoothie to be a bit too sticky and it was as if it pressed my curls flat when I applied it on dripping wet hair. When applied on dry hair I ended up with crazy frizz, so I stopped using it.

The hair on top of my head ended up being extremely greasy.
I tried a few ACV rinses, which helped with the grease: (I'm wearing a blue/white jacket)
It was not enough and I ended up buying a shampoo cointaining sodium laureth sulfate since I couldn't aford to order a cg friendly shampoo over the internet at that time.

At the moment I'm on my third bottle of KCKT and the non-cg shampoo.
My routine is as follows:
1. Applying non-cg shampoo to my scalp. Rinse it out.
2. Applying lots of KCKT all over to undo my tangles. Rinse out a very small amount.
3. Air-dry or plopping.

This leaves me with small coils or straight hair at the nape of my neck. It really depends on the amount of KCKT I apply to it. I end up with quite a lift at the roots, but the curls on top of my head is almost non-existing.

This is what my hair looks like on forth day of not washing: (the beautifully edited picture ) Also, what on earth is my natural hair color? You cannot see the dye in this picture.

Now I'm asking for your help to guide me to products that won't leave my hair greasy, but full of curls

At last but not least, thank you for taking the time to read about my annoying hair
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:48 AM   #2
 
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In my opinion, the KCKT is too light to use as your sole conditioner- it's designed to be a leave in. I would start by purchasing a stronger condish- there are many you should be able to buy there. A lot of people like the tresemme naturals ones. Use a lot of that, and just a little KC as a leave in.

If you have Shea moisture products available there, the shampoos are sulfate free and the conditioners are heavier than the KC. I would try a different shampoo as well, or at least minimize how often you're using the current poo, or use it just on your scalp and protect the rest of your hair by slathering it with condish or coconut oil b4 you wash.

Are you using any styling products after you wash? If not, you probably should start with some mousse or gel and go from there.
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:14 AM   #3
 
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Try the Tresemme naturals conditioners. They are on the heavier side. I use it for rinse out and leave in. You need to find a conditioner that keeps you moisturized. I also use some of the deep conditioners like Jessicurls deep conditioner as a leave in to when needed.

I have found no product works for me if my curls are not moisturized properly. I have also experimented with homemade flax seed gel which I love and use everyday under all my products. I have also found that removing some of the excess water from my hair and then adding my product works better for me than adding to soaking wet hair. I just spritz with a water bottle to get it to clump again if needed.

Also make sure your not protein sensitive or that will work against you to. Not having enough protein could also be your problem. Protein leaves me like straw that takes forever for me to get my hair soft again.

I strayed from CG for a few years and have just went back to it in December. I can now see how shampoo even a sulfate free one sets me back for days. Being a curly is a journey to find what works for you. Hardest part is its ever changing as well.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:48 AM   #4
 
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If your hair is fine, you need protein. I've never met a fine haired curly that is protein sensitive. Especially if you're porous too! Protein will fill in the holes in your hair cuticle & give your hair strength & structure it lacks on its own.

I agree you need to be using a better RO condish & KCKT as an LI. I use Tresseme naturals and when I need protein, ION effective care. Also love nexxus youth renewal.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:31 AM   #5
 
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Thank you for your answers.
I found out I'm not protein sensitive, so I'll better take a look at recipes
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:41 PM   #6
 
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I bought the Tresemmé Naturals Nourishing Conditioner a few days ago and so far it has worked as a charm
Thank you.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:12 PM   #7
 
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Your curl pattern seems similar to mine, I am also dealing with chemical and mechanical damage exactly the same as you, never heat styled.

I find the more I wear my hair straight the harder it is to get curl - putting it up wet when I am in a rush or brushing for second/ third day hair pulls out the curls nearest to the roots. Sometimes it takes three washes to get my hair to curl back up again properly. So it's better for my wave pattern to rewet/ rewash and wear my hair curly every day.

I get better curl when I don't shampoo at all, I can get my hair 'squeaky' clean 'lathering up' with loads of a cheap conditioner (I use Inecto). Also get more root curl and cleaner roots washing my head upside down and scrunching in every product, including those that are washed out.

I'm afraid I am also still learning about my hair and suitable products. My hair absolutely loves coconut oil as an intensive treatment tho, it is supposed to reduce porosity and help damaged hair retain the structural proteins. I CO-wash that out no problem, usually rinse and repeat. If you really prefer shampoo you might try coconut oil shampoo (aka Movie Star Method), there is a long thread over on the Long Hair Community. Shea butter is too heavy for my hair, I think it better suits those with a really strong curl pattern.
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