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Old 04-23-2013, 08:13 PM   #1
 
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I'm just looking for other 2a/2b/2c/3a's for product ideas!!

I'm having some clumping issues, my hair looks really stringy and my curls seem limp, I've been trying an array of products.
I'm gonna update my signature with all my products and uses.

I diffuse like crazy just to keep the curl. I want to enhance my curls and perhaps get them curlier!

I'll be posting pictures from my phone as well.
I'm just kind of lost with all the product possibilities etc.

FEELING SO OVERWHELMED RIGHT NOW!
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:48 PM   #2
 
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looking for other 2a/2b/2c/3a for product ideas!!-imageuploadedbycurltalk1366771363.727929.jpg this was my best hair day like a week ago maybe 2
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:19 PM   #3
 
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You're hair's really pretty! Have you tried a deep treatment or protein treatment? For me, protein treatments usually fix limp hair. Also, when are you applying your products? Applying to soaking wet hair gives me bigger clumps. It might also be the weather change from spring to summer.
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:57 PM   #4
 
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You're hair's really pretty! Have you tried a deep treatment or protein treatment? For me, protein treatments usually fix limp hair. Also, when are you applying your products? Applying to soaking wet hair gives me bigger clumps. It might also be the weather change from spring to summer.
Thank you!! Unfortunately my hair has looked nothing like that lately I apply products to wet hair and diffuse. I have not done a deep treatment or a protein treatment, dying to try one though! I heard of gelatin being a good one, idk how to do it but I'm hoping to do one this weeked
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Rinse Out: Malibu C Hardwater Wellness Conditioner
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:10 PM   #5
 
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You're hair's really pretty! Have you tried a deep treatment or protein treatment? For me, protein treatments usually fix limp hair. Also, when are you applying your products? Applying to soaking wet hair gives me bigger clumps. It might also be the weather change from spring to summer.
Thank you!! Unfortunately my hair has looked nothing like that lately I apply products to wet hair and diffuse. I have not done a deep treatment or a protein treatment, dying to try one though! I heard of gelatin being a good one, idk how to do it but I'm hoping to do one this weeked
You can go up to the search bar and look up the gelatin protein treatment. The thread was by AIgirl. I would look it up, but Im on ky phone right now. I use a packet of Knox gelatin mixed with really hot water (like 1/4 a cup), with a splash of vinegar and some AO GBP conditioner (you can use any conditioner). Then I let it sit on my head while I take a long shower. Some people find PTs drying, but others don't. Just don't be alarmed if your hair is a little dry.

I also have heard that glycerin can mess with some people when dew point rise up. I haven't personally had issues with that, but it could be worth cutting glycerin some. I feel like glycerin is one of those ingredients that's super hard to avoid though, so I would try other stuff first.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:10 AM   #6
 
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The gelatin recipe is on this website. You buy the gelatin in the baking aisle at the grocery store next to the Jello.

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Old 04-24-2013, 07:28 AM   #7
 
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The gelatin recipe is on this website. You buy the gelatin in the baking aisle at the grocery store next to the Jello.

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Thank you!! I can't wait to try it
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:10 PM   #8
 
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I'm a 2C. I use Curl Keeper on my wet hair. I also use Knot Today. I then plop for about 1/2 hour. I then take my hair down and apply Pantene Curl Mousse (it works better for me when my hair is only damp or when it's dry). I then apply some clips in the crown, blow out my bangs, and let my hair air dry. LOL I have a 1 hr drive to work so the vents help dry my hair! I sleep with my hair down at night (pineappling does not work for me! It only tangles my hair!) In the AM I spritz my hair lightly with water, apply a little more Pantene Mouse and Knot Today (if needed) and do am almost dry plop (I accordion my hair into the shirt and tie it up). I do my makeup and when I'm done I let my hair down. I get full bouncy curls doing this! One thing I notice is I CANNOT handle tons of products in my hair. I have very thick hair but it does not like an abundance of product. I can handle cones but again not in abundance. For me simple is best
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:24 PM   #9
 
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Keep in mind if you do a PT you'll probably want to follow it with a DT. A cheap one is GVP conditioning balm found at Sally's. A lot of ladies use it as a rinse out as well.

I really like Curl Junkie products, especially the conditioners! Stylers are hit or miss. My favs are in my siggy.

I don't know all of your products, is there much protein in them?
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:00 AM   #10
 
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Keep in mind if you do a PT you'll probably want to follow it with a DT. A cheap one is GVP conditioning balm found at Sally's. A lot of ladies use it as a rinse out as well.

I really like Curl Junkie products, especially the conditioners! Stylers are hit or miss. My favs are in my siggy.

I don't know all of your products, is there much protein in them?
Is there any other DT I can do that involve the products I already have? (Poor college student lol)
I honestly have no idea what proteins if any are in my products.
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Rinse Out: Malibu C Hardwater Wellness Conditioner
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:01 AM   #11
 
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I'm a 2C. I use Curl Keeper on my wet hair. I also use Knot Today. I then plop for about 1/2 hour. I then take my hair down and apply Pantene Curl Mousse (it works better for me when my hair is only damp or when it's dry). I then apply some clips in the crown, blow out my bangs, and let my hair air dry. LOL I have a 1 hr drive to work so the vents help dry my hair! I sleep with my hair down at night (pineappling does not work for me! It only tangles my hair!) In the AM I spritz my hair lightly with water, apply a little more Pantene Mouse and Knot Today (if needed) and do am almost dry plop (I accordion my hair into the shirt and tie it up). I do my makeup and when I'm done I let my hair down. I get full bouncy curls doing this! One thing I notice is I CANNOT handle tons of products in my hair. I have very thick hair but it does not like an abundance of product. I can handle cones but again not in abundance. For me simple is best
That's helpful thanks!
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Rinse Out: Malibu C Hardwater Wellness Conditioner
Leave In: SM Coconut Hibiscus Curl and Style Milk
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:24 AM   #12
 
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Ever consider mousse? Herbal essences curl mousse seems to help me. Just started using it a few days ago in conjuction with gel
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:10 AM   #13
 
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The best way to choose products is based on properties, not curl pattern. Properties include things like texture, porosity, and density. Livecurlylivefree.com has lots of great info for determining your hair properties (and also offers a hair analysis service if you're still unsure), as well as general info about ingredients to look for/avoid based on properties. There is also a thread buried somewhere in the 2s forum called "Share Your Hair Biography." It's a great reference for searching out other people with the same properties and seeing what works and doesn't work for them. Again, curl pattern really doesn't play into this. I have 3a curls, but my hair twin has 2b waves. We have nearly identical properties and get almost identical results from the same products. If one of us raves about something, it's pretty much guaranteed that the other will love it also.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:48 PM   #14
 
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The best way to choose products is based on properties, not curl pattern. Properties include things like texture, porosity, and density. Livecurlylivefree.com has lots of great info for determining your hair properties (and also offers a hair analysis service if you're still unsure), as well as general info about ingredients to look for/avoid based on properties. There is also a thread buried somewhere in the 2s forum called "Share Your Hair Biography." It's a great reference for searching out other people with the same properties and seeing what works and doesn't work for them. Again, curl pattern really doesn't play into this. I have 3a curls, but my hair twin has 2b waves. We have nearly identical properties and get almost identical results from the same products. If one of us raves about something, it's pretty much guaranteed that the other will love it also.
Do you know if I have to pay for the hair analysis? I think I might do that if it doesn't cost too much because I'm not 100% sure on my hair properties. They should be in my signature but idk cuz I'm on my phone!
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Rinse Out: Malibu C Hardwater Wellness Conditioner
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:54 PM   #15
 
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Unfortunately, yes. I don't know what the cost is now. I paid about $20 back when I got mine done. I'm on the app also, so I can't see signatures
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Unfortunately, yes. I don't know what the cost is now. I paid about $20 back when I got mine done. I'm on the app also, so I can't see signatures
Bummer! Il just keep my properties I guessed!
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:36 AM   #17
 
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To all!

This is my hair not diffused
looking for other 2a/2b/2c/3a for product ideas!!-imageuploadedbycurltalk1366997796.007024.jpg
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I have the same issues with my curls when I have too much build up. Have you tried clarifying recently?
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Old 04-27-2013, 03:19 PM   #19
 
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I have the same issues with my curls when I have too much build up. Have you tried clarifying recently?
Yeah I clarified about a week or so ago, that was when I had my best hair day then diffused. But I've been trying to fix my dry scalp issue (it gets itchy really quickly) I think I'm going to need to wait until I go home in 3 weeks. (I'm in college and hate having to use all my bfs gas getting all kinds of products all over) also when I go home I'm going to be teaching my sister cg to fix her hair!!!!
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Sounds like we have similar hair and are having similar problems. I'm having the worst hair day in the full two years since I went silicone/ sulphate free, so not fair after all the effort I've put it I could actually cry.

Pretty sure my hair is over-conditioned, it's lank with no curl. Curled up beautifully with a sulphate free shampoo followed by protein treatment (Komaza Care) but now is virtually straight with no more than a few hairs glued together, looks like I brushed it out!

If I find a solution I will post it up for you.
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