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Old 05-06-2013, 11:43 AM   #1
 
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Exclamation 3A hair TOO soft??

Hi there!

I have 3A hair and I have followed the CG method for over two months, but my hair doesn't seem to be reacting anymore. I have lost my curl and my hair is super frizzy. And it seems like it is TOO soft! HELP!

Here are the product I use:
-Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut
-Conditioner: Tresemme Naturals Conditioner
-Leave-in: KCNT
-Gel: Herbal Essences Total Twisted (Used KCCC once, but that is when my hair got too soft)

I do dye my hair with a box dye about once every three or four, so maybe the dye has killed the curls??
Please offer any tips, thanks so much!
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:46 AM   #2
 
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Sounds over conditioned to me. I don't know what your hair properties are but I would suggest a clarifying wash & some protein. The SN coconut has minute amts of protein but nothing spectacular. OC'd hair is exactly what you describe & you'd benefit from a gentle shampoo. If you have fine hair, look at adding in some protein to your routine too. Hair properties are much more important than curl type & I can't give much advice without knowing them (I'm on the app so if they're in your signature I can't see them).
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Co-wash: VO5 Volumizing
Poo: Giovanni 50:50
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal, Alba Coconut
LI: KCKT
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:53 AM   #3
 
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I have thick hair with low porosity I believe. I did the slip and slide strand test, and I do not feel any bumps.
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Old 05-06-2013, 04:14 PM   #4
 
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If you permanently dye your hair your hair would be more porous than it is naturally. You generally have to fry hair to kill curl, there isn't any hidden silicone in the box dye or conditioner is there? Your routine looks heavy on the humectants and light on oils or protein, maybe try a hydrolysed protein followed by an absorbable oil based deep conditioner (eg. coconut, avocado) and see what that does?
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:14 PM   #5
 
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IT THE CONDITIONER I TELL YOU!! Treseme made my hair (3c) very soft but without any definition and very frizzy
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:37 PM   #6
 
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I have thick hair with low porosity I believe. I did the slip and slide strand test, and I do not feel any bumps.
Thick hair is density. Im looking for the texture of your individual strands - fine, medium, coarse. that will be the best indicator of how protein might react in your hair.
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fine, thin, normal/(low?) porosity. Mod-CG. Usually I can't co-wash more than 1x a week, & sometimes I have to use T-Gel in rotation due to scalp issues.

Co-wash: VO5 Volumizing
Poo: Giovanni 50:50
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal, Alba Coconut
LI: KCKT
PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone), Curls Rock Strong Hold Mousse
Gels: SCC spray gel

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Old 05-06-2013, 08:18 PM   #7
 
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I have thick hair with low porosity I believe. I did the slip and slide strand test, and I do not feel any bumps.
Thick hair is density. Im looking for the texture of your individual strands - fine, medium, coarse. that will be the best indicator of how protein might react in your hair.
It has a fine texture
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:33 AM   #8
 
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Hi - I think you may be using too many conditioners. I have fine 3a porous hair and I co wash - if I feel my hair needs it after the co wash I'll do a quick rinse out - I don't use a leave in as my hair gets too soft and then too flat. I would miss out your leave in to start and see if that makes a difference.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:05 AM   #9
 
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Yep! I also think you are OC'd!!

You need to clarify and then do PT's once a week or two!

Easy fix!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
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Thanks everyone! Does anyone have any afforable product suggestions? Or even some homemade recipes? I tired the IAGirl's protein mask last night
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:24 PM   #11
 
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Thanks everyone! Does anyone have any afforable product suggestions? Or even some homemade recipes? I tired the IAGirl's protein mask last night
That would be a good one! Was your hair better today?
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:28 PM   #12
 
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The gelatin PT is my absolute FAVORITE!
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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
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Thanks everyone! Does anyone have any afforable product suggestions? Or even some homemade recipes? I tired the IAGirl's protein mask last night
That would be a good one! Was your hair better today?
It was not much better.
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